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So sad. My hear hurt throughout yesterday damn

The speculations are too painful 😭😭 why did gran have to die😭

She did tell Jun Seo she would come back though. She keeps avoiding telling him that she doesn’t want to be with him like that and it’s because she wants to be able to retain some control over him. Tbh even if she tells him firmly he might still lose his shit and crash out anyway but it would still be a product of her original manipulation. It’s a no win situation

How can you say that😭 Jun Seo is someone she moulded into who he is since they were children. She told him his duty in this life is to be sorry to her and to protect her so that’s what he thinks. She has used guilt to control him since he was just a child. She said he should have rescued her in the bathroom that day but it’s something she says to keep him obedient. He was a child too and couldn’t actually have saved her 😭 but because she also made him think she was the only one that ever loved him as they were growing up he’s bonded to her now. We watched the same show how could you miss this😭 yeah, she went through a lot but he and Jae O are literally her first victims. That doesn’t completely absolve them of their wrongs but when you’re talking about their dynamic you have to be clear that it’s on her. Jun Seo is acting crazy because he doesn’t know how else to be. He thinks he was put on this earth to protect her but she keeps leaving him and telling him she’ll be back- he can’t understand it and won’t. Humans are not always perfect robots so because he has his own conscience and is becoming obsessed he’s now acting in a way she didn’t plan for. If she stayed by his side he wouldn’t be struggling with his identity rn. His madness is also her creation, she’ll have to bear that. That’s on her. Don’t turn it on him😭

100% agree

Exactly

She’s getting hate?

Spoiler please!

A family home for people who have no family. Lol

If she had left him in one piece he wouldn’t have committed suicide. She pushed him to it and she knows it too. She didn’t have to be so cruel. She brought up his insecurities and basically implied that it was because of his own foolishness that she could come into his family and hurt his grandma like that. She knew what she was doing there. Don’t reduce it. She was putting the blame on him and knew he was fragile. It wasn’t even true that it was his fault. She orchestrated the whole thing. But she made him feel that it was his fault. Yeah most of the people she hurt deserved it, but not In Gang at all. Not this level of hurt

I was like “that could’ve been the one good adult”😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

These last episodes were really heavy. I feel drained after watching them. After Halmeoni died I was wondering why she was acting like she was self destructing and seemingly blowing her own cover and not being clear about if she didn’t it or not. Turns out she really was descending into deeper madness from Halmeoni’s death. Everyone is collateral damage if Ahjin feels like she’s suffering. I wish In Gang didn’t have to hear all that and go through all that. He didn’t do anything wrong. He didn’t even bring up what the neighbour said to her because he didn’t want to lose her. But no, she’s hurting so he has to hurt even more. She could’ve left him in one piece at least but she doesn’t like to do that. They have to become as twisted as she can make them. And will give herself the excuse that they were weak anyway. He died in a lot of pain and that’s what hurts the most about it. The whole thing with Halmeoni confirmed that her madness was created but now she really is descending in to the pits of madness.

I wish she would have been satisfied with a good, stable situation. I wonder if she would have told him to hold off on the marriage until much later? She didn’t love him but seemed to have a soft spot for his grandma the most. She might have married him just for that or kept the breakup simple so she could still visit his grandma? I don’t know. I feel that she would’ve gone ahead with the breakup seeking higher grounds of success because she really had gotten all she could out of him. Their photos together were so nice and seeing him so happy was sooooo nice. But that happiness was built with a version of her that wasn’t really her. She probably could’ve kept it up forever if she thought the arrangement was good enough though. He definitely should have told her about his plans but it’s not like he told the press to follow him and take photos. At worst, they could’ve talked about it and settled it. He probably had a feeling she would say no, and it was a selfish request anyway. But he would’ve taken her no, not yet. So that level of beating he took about her intentions was by farrrrrrr, unnecessary

When Jun Seo says he wants her to be happy he means that he wants are to be happy with him. Not anyone else. I wish he would face himself and take care of himself instead. Though I know he can’t. Why did Ahjin promise that she would come back to him?
She should look him in the face and say that they’re not in a relationship or that she likes her position now and won’t go back to him but she didn’t because she doesn’t want to lose him either. He’s useful to her that’s all. Turns out his friendship with the other girl was completely his choice. To some extent, he wants to hurt her too because she hurt him.
Everything is a mess. Why is the gross classmate back? Also, it’s not believable to me because why would she let her in?!!!
In Youp should play more melo roles like this. It suits him so well. Maybe a show where he and his wife are going through potential divorce? It would be soo good
I’m so pained about this episode. How do I get over this😭

With Junseo, she literally raised/groomed him into a human that can and will protect her to the best of his abilities. Because of this, If she’s hurt, he blames himself, so he has to help her for his sanity. With Jae o, she validates his existence and gives him a reason to live. She’s primed them to be like this for her using their weaknesses. They’re situations that wouldn’t exist if they weren’t so scarred as children.

I agree. That man actually needed to go

True, but so did the guys who support her. They’re not worse than her. At the most, 3 of them have awareness at similar levels

100% agree!!

He’s definitely twisted now. I can never tell what he’s thinking either.
He observes people in the same way and seems to categorise them and understand their usefulness to him/them quickly. But I think it’s because he grew up with her.

He grew up watching and understanding life from her lens. He doesn’t find joy in things or actually find them funny because she doesn’t really either. Using guilt and naivety, she turned him into a sort of shadow of her when they were just kids. A shadow that protects and understands her, gives her what she needs and exists for her. His feelings seem numb because his sense of self is sort of tied to her I think. I think the fits of rage are his obsession and frustration coming out. He’s like a suppressed human being. She couldn’t get rid of his empathy though so that’s why he wasn’t completely ruined and that’s what they disagree on.
So I’m trying to say that maybe he’s a “programmed” sociopath? Maybe therapy could fix him though. I’ve definitely wasn’t born with his psychopathic tendencies. She sort of created them. So I don’t his character can be explained outside of his victim hood. But that’s just my theory.

When he was watching her with Jae O and In Gang, I think he was annoyed and wondering why she never thinks to treat him like she treats them? Why can she try to love In Gang and laugh with Jae O? Why cant he have this with her too? Why does she only hurt him? But it’s because she comes to him in her truest form lol. But maybe he was thinking something else? I’m not sure

I wish I could read him though. I just want to know what he’s thinking 😫 but he keeps it tightly wrapped away. Idk about the Lena situation yet. I guess we’ll find out if Ah Jin sent him to her or not. If she didn’t then that would be super intriguing!!

Omg. Why did I think they would release an episode today too😭😭😭

No no it’s not that I like her. It’s just that it’s not her fault she was created as someone who doesn’t “like people”. She was literally created rotten lol. Instead, what makes her bad is her continuous cruelty. Sociopaths can choose to if to make bad or good decisions like regular people because she’s an adult that now understands that her actions hurt others so of course she’ll have to be punished for this. I understand that.

“I can’t wait to see her destruction for her evil actions”. So far, only one person who was originally innocent is in prison. Jun Seo and Jae O know what they’re getting with her. They’re not blind. It’s true that she’s taking advantage of them but they’re not completely averse to this. Jun Seo’s situation is more complicated because she created his dependency on her, but at the same time he knows what she’s up to. Jae O needs her to feel validated. So far, they haven’t hurt anyone (that didn’t deserve it) by helping her just yet. The situation with the man in prison- she did that herself. She’s just largely manipulated people’s thinking so far. But it hasn’t caused much harm yet. I’m just trying to say that of course she will meet her downfall but with the way people say it you’d think an innocent person was already dead. It will happen I’m sure but until then the comments will make you think it already did.
So many corrupt politicians and regular cruel people are just as bad because they have feelings and still do these and even worse things, and are walking around freely. But now that I think about it, maybe some of those people are also sociopaths because how can a person be so cruel damn