How can you say that😭 Jun Seo is someone she moulded into who he is since they were children. She told him…
Well, I didn't know about the final X thing, so you just spoiled that for me😭 The discussion she had with him when he was mad at her and blaming her for the situation, and she was on the floor, telling him about how he didn't save her as a child, and if he left her she would never blame him, but that instead of all that he should be sorry for her and do everything he can for her. He wants to get mad at the situation and start using his own thinking, but whenever she brings that up, he's disarmed and can't think clearly for himself for a while after that. That's her using guilt to control him. He knows she's using him, but as you know, he won't go as far as to harm another person directly for her. But he lets that happen because he thinks he exists for her and that he should. Her actions reaffirm that every time. He's starting to spot that she's just using him and planning to discard him the same way. It's now that he's starting to understand that. And it would be great if he just took the L and nursed his pain, but he's becoming angry instead. It was okay that he was mad at her about the grandma. He's a person, not a mind reader. If she didn't do it, she could've said so. I'm aware that she didn't because she blamed herself and was upset that he didn't trust her, but it doesn't change that she didn't tell him that she didn't do it to him.
From his pov, she's someone who would kill a person- it's true. She can even if she hasn't. If she has a chance, she'll kill any person in her way. She doesn't because it's not that easy to kill and get rid of someone. He's scared of what she'll do because he knows her darkest desires best. He sees her manipulate every situation. How could he trust her, knowing all that? Jae O is different because she's kept the worst things she did from him. And it's possible that even if he knew, he'd still support her because he puts her on a pedestal and thinks she can do no wrong. He doesn't put her on a pedestal. He thinks they belong to each other (which is what he thought as they grew up). Jun Seo's reaction is more natural. If you knew her in real life, you'd be worried she did it too. Also, it's true that she manipulated his thinking as a child because she was in a dire situation, but it doesn't change that his way of thinking (of their relationship) as an adult is directly a result of her influence on him. Her manipulation had consequences, and now he's becoming dangerously obsessive because he's losing his identity, which he thinks is tied to her. Yes, she had to do it at the time, but the damage is done, and it's something that exists because of her actions, no matter the reason she did it in the first place. It's the same way that in the end, he madness is a result of what her parents put her through as a child. In the end, it's their fault that she's like this, even if she's an adult now. Her manipulation is something he can't see through. You can see him struggle with right and wrong because of this. Now that she wants to dispose of him, his world is crumbling. It's a world she built, even if she originally built it out of necessity
What she did with In Gang is understandable because she could not predict that he would do that, she thought she…
She did tell Jun Seo she would come back though. She keeps avoiding telling him that she doesn’t want to be with him like that and it’s because she wants to be able to retain some control over him. Tbh even if she tells him firmly he might still lose his shit and crash out anyway but it would still be a product of her original manipulation. It’s a no win situation
Now you guys know that devil didn’t born that way. The world made them. Ahjin since young, she was abused cruelly…
How can you say that😭 Jun Seo is someone she moulded into who he is since they were children. She told him his duty in this life is to be sorry to her and to protect her so that’s what he thinks. She has used guilt to control him since he was just a child. She said he should have rescued her in the bathroom that day but it’s something she says to keep him obedient. He was a child too and couldn’t actually have saved her 😭 but because she also made him think she was the only one that ever loved him as they were growing up he’s bonded to her now. We watched the same show how could you miss this😭 yeah, she went through a lot but he and Jae O are literally her first victims. That doesn’t completely absolve them of their wrongs but when you’re talking about their dynamic you have to be clear that it’s on her. Jun Seo is acting crazy because he doesn’t know how else to be. He thinks he was put on this earth to protect her but she keeps leaving him and telling him she’ll be back- he can’t understand it and won’t. Humans are not always perfect robots so because he has his own conscience and is becoming obsessed he’s now acting in a way she didn’t plan for. If she stayed by his side he wouldn’t be struggling with his identity rn. His madness is also her creation, she’ll have to bear that. That’s on her. Don’t turn it on him😭
I might be the only one who doesn't want to see her downfall (even if i know it might be coming). At first i really…
If she had left him in one piece he wouldn’t have committed suicide. She pushed him to it and she knows it too. She didn’t have to be so cruel. She brought up his insecurities and basically implied that it was because of his own foolishness that she could come into his family and hurt his grandma like that. She knew what she was doing there. Don’t reduce it. She was putting the blame on him and knew he was fragile. It wasn’t even true that it was his fault. She orchestrated the whole thing. But she made him feel that it was his fault. Yeah most of the people she hurt deserved it, but not In Gang at all. Not this level of hurt
These last episodes were really heavy. I feel drained after watching them. After Halmeoni died I was wondering why she was acting like she was self destructing and seemingly blowing her own cover and not being clear about if she didn’t it or not. Turns out she really was descending into deeper madness from Halmeoni’s death. Everyone is collateral damage if Ahjin feels like she’s suffering. I wish In Gang didn’t have to hear all that and go through all that. He didn’t do anything wrong. He didn’t even bring up what the neighbour said to her because he didn’t want to lose her. But no, she’s hurting so he has to hurt even more. She could’ve left him in one piece at least but she doesn’t like to do that. They have to become as twisted as she can make them. And will give herself the excuse that they were weak anyway. He died in a lot of pain and that’s what hurts the most about it. The whole thing with Halmeoni confirmed that her madness was created but now she really is descending in to the pits of madness.
I wish she would have been satisfied with a good, stable situation. I wonder if she would have told him to hold off on the marriage until much later? She didn’t love him but seemed to have a soft spot for his grandma the most. She might have married him just for that or kept the breakup simple so she could still visit his grandma? I don’t know. I feel that she would’ve gone ahead with the breakup seeking higher grounds of success because she really had gotten all she could out of him. Their photos together were so nice and seeing him so happy was sooooo nice. But that happiness was built with a version of her that wasn’t really her. She probably could’ve kept it up forever if she thought the arrangement was good enough though. He definitely should have told her about his plans but it’s not like he told the press to follow him and take photos. At worst, they could’ve talked about it and settled it. He probably had a feeling she would say no, and it was a selfish request anyway. But he would’ve taken her no, not yet. So that level of beating he took about her intentions was by farrrrrrr, unnecessary
When Jun Seo says he wants her to be happy he means that he wants are to be happy with him. Not anyone else. I wish he would face himself and take care of himself instead. Though I know he can’t. Why did Ahjin promise that she would come back to him? She should look him in the face and say that they’re not in a relationship or that she likes her position now and won’t go back to him but she didn’t because she doesn’t want to lose him either. He’s useful to her that’s all. Turns out his friendship with the other girl was completely his choice. To some extent, he wants to hurt her too because she hurt him. Everything is a mess. Why is the gross classmate back? Also, it’s not believable to me because why would she let her in?!!! In Youp should play more melo roles like this. It suits him so well. Maybe a show where he and his wife are going through potential divorce? It would be soo good I’m so pained about this episode. How do I get over this😭
I'm sayingg like you understand why they're allowing ajin to use them but they're acting so pathetic it's embarrassing.…
With Junseo, she literally raised/groomed him into a human that can and will protect her to the best of his abilities. Because of this, If she’s hurt, he blames himself, so he has to help her for his sanity. With Jae o, she validates his existence and gives him a reason to live. She’s primed them to be like this for her using their weaknesses. They’re situations that wouldn’t exist if they weren’t so scarred as children.
i feel like Jun Seo has some psychopath tendencies on his own.. it's impossible to read how he truly feels / who…
He’s definitely twisted now. I can never tell what he’s thinking either. He observes people in the same way and seems to categorise them and understand their usefulness to him/them quickly. But I think it’s because he grew up with her.
He grew up watching and understanding life from her lens. He doesn’t find joy in things or actually find them funny because she doesn’t really either. Using guilt and naivety, she turned him into a sort of shadow of her when they were just kids. A shadow that protects and understands her, gives her what she needs and exists for her. His feelings seem numb because his sense of self is sort of tied to her I think. I think the fits of rage are his obsession and frustration coming out. He’s like a suppressed human being. She couldn’t get rid of his empathy though so that’s why he wasn’t completely ruined and that’s what they disagree on. So I’m trying to say that maybe he’s a “programmed” sociopath? Maybe therapy could fix him though. I’ve definitely wasn’t born with his psychopathic tendencies. She sort of created them. So I don’t his character can be explained outside of his victim hood. But that’s just my theory.
When he was watching her with Jae O and In Gang, I think he was annoyed and wondering why she never thinks to treat him like she treats them? Why can she try to love In Gang and laugh with Jae O? Why cant he have this with her too? Why does she only hurt him? But it’s because she comes to him in her truest form lol. But maybe he was thinking something else? I’m not sure
I wish I could read him though. I just want to know what he’s thinking 😫 but he keeps it tightly wrapped away. Idk about the Lena situation yet. I guess we’ll find out if Ah Jin sent him to her or not. If she didn’t then that would be super intriguing!!
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The discussion she had with him when he was mad at her and blaming her for the situation, and she was on the floor, telling him about how he didn't save her as a child, and if he left her she would never blame him, but that instead of all that he should be sorry for her and do everything he can for her. He wants to get mad at the situation and start using his own thinking, but whenever she brings that up, he's disarmed and can't think clearly for himself for a while after that. That's her using guilt to control him. He knows she's using him, but as you know, he won't go as far as to harm another person directly for her. But he lets that happen because he thinks he exists for her and that he should. Her actions reaffirm that every time. He's starting to spot that she's just using him and planning to discard him the same way. It's now that he's starting to understand that. And it would be great if he just took the L and nursed his pain, but he's becoming angry instead. It was okay that he was mad at her about the grandma. He's a person, not a mind reader. If she didn't do it, she could've said so. I'm aware that she didn't because she blamed herself and was upset that he didn't trust her, but it doesn't change that she didn't tell him that she didn't do it to him.
From his pov, she's someone who would kill a person- it's true. She can even if she hasn't. If she has a chance, she'll kill any person in her way. She doesn't because it's not that easy to kill and get rid of someone. He's scared of what she'll do because he knows her darkest desires best. He sees her manipulate every situation. How could he trust her, knowing all that? Jae O is different because she's kept the worst things she did from him. And it's possible that even if he knew, he'd still support her because he puts her on a pedestal and thinks she can do no wrong. He doesn't put her on a pedestal. He thinks they belong to each other (which is what he thought as they grew up). Jun Seo's reaction is more natural. If you knew her in real life, you'd be worried she did it too.
Also, it's true that she manipulated his thinking as a child because she was in a dire situation, but it doesn't change that his way of thinking (of their relationship) as an adult is directly a result of her influence on him. Her manipulation had consequences, and now he's becoming dangerously obsessive because he's losing his identity, which he thinks is tied to her. Yes, she had to do it at the time, but the damage is done, and it's something that exists because of her actions, no matter the reason she did it in the first place. It's the same way that in the end, he madness is a result of what her parents put her through as a child. In the end, it's their fault that she's like this, even if she's an adult now.
Her manipulation is something he can't see through. You can see him struggle with right and wrong because of this. Now that she wants to dispose of him, his world is crumbling. It's a world she built, even if she originally built it out of necessity
I wish she would have been satisfied with a good, stable situation. I wonder if she would have told him to hold off on the marriage until much later? She didn’t love him but seemed to have a soft spot for his grandma the most. She might have married him just for that or kept the breakup simple so she could still visit his grandma? I don’t know. I feel that she would’ve gone ahead with the breakup seeking higher grounds of success because she really had gotten all she could out of him. Their photos together were so nice and seeing him so happy was sooooo nice. But that happiness was built with a version of her that wasn’t really her. She probably could’ve kept it up forever if she thought the arrangement was good enough though. He definitely should have told her about his plans but it’s not like he told the press to follow him and take photos. At worst, they could’ve talked about it and settled it. He probably had a feeling she would say no, and it was a selfish request anyway. But he would’ve taken her no, not yet. So that level of beating he took about her intentions was by farrrrrrr, unnecessary
When Jun Seo says he wants her to be happy he means that he wants are to be happy with him. Not anyone else. I wish he would face himself and take care of himself instead. Though I know he can’t. Why did Ahjin promise that she would come back to him?
She should look him in the face and say that they’re not in a relationship or that she likes her position now and won’t go back to him but she didn’t because she doesn’t want to lose him either. He’s useful to her that’s all. Turns out his friendship with the other girl was completely his choice. To some extent, he wants to hurt her too because she hurt him.
Everything is a mess. Why is the gross classmate back? Also, it’s not believable to me because why would she let her in?!!!
In Youp should play more melo roles like this. It suits him so well. Maybe a show where he and his wife are going through potential divorce? It would be soo good
I’m so pained about this episode. How do I get over this😭
He observes people in the same way and seems to categorise them and understand their usefulness to him/them quickly. But I think it’s because he grew up with her.
He grew up watching and understanding life from her lens. He doesn’t find joy in things or actually find them funny because she doesn’t really either. Using guilt and naivety, she turned him into a sort of shadow of her when they were just kids. A shadow that protects and understands her, gives her what she needs and exists for her. His feelings seem numb because his sense of self is sort of tied to her I think. I think the fits of rage are his obsession and frustration coming out. He’s like a suppressed human being. She couldn’t get rid of his empathy though so that’s why he wasn’t completely ruined and that’s what they disagree on.
So I’m trying to say that maybe he’s a “programmed” sociopath? Maybe therapy could fix him though. I’ve definitely wasn’t born with his psychopathic tendencies. She sort of created them. So I don’t his character can be explained outside of his victim hood. But that’s just my theory.
When he was watching her with Jae O and In Gang, I think he was annoyed and wondering why she never thinks to treat him like she treats them? Why can she try to love In Gang and laugh with Jae O? Why cant he have this with her too? Why does she only hurt him? But it’s because she comes to him in her truest form lol. But maybe he was thinking something else? I’m not sure
I wish I could read him though. I just want to know what he’s thinking 😫 but he keeps it tightly wrapped away. Idk about the Lena situation yet. I guess we’ll find out if Ah Jin sent him to her or not. If she didn’t then that would be super intriguing!!