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Replying to Wandering_Queen • 14 days ago
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They treated him harsh there lol I also thought it was wild
The juxtaposition with Scholar Han passing by does make it a funny scene. 😂
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Replying to Ifa • 14 days ago
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Not to mention his “love rival” passing by in glory. 🤣
And Lanxiang beaming at seeing Scholar Han achieved his dreams. 😂 Double whammy.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 14 days ago
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Of course - she knows that a son is your son until he gets him a wife. A daughter is your daughter for the rest…
At least Xiuwan kind of having the best ending in many ways will make up for all her stress. 🤭
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Replying to hvnlyangel • 14 days ago
I think that though her husband is interesting and set in his ways, their marriage is more harmonious than the…
Yes, Second Madam doesn't have to deal with concubines. But it also doesn't seem like Lin Changmin was that involved with his children.

Lin Changzheng is definitely more of a mess relationship wise compared to Lin Changmin based on the information we have. But LCM seems pretty checked out in general from the household affairs and prefer to do his own thing too. It is the cheating/player husband VS the husband who shows up occasionally. 😭 Though most will definitely prefer LCM over LCZ.
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Replying to mochachen • 14 days ago
Even after all that trauma, LX is so stable and strong, very clear headed. Whether she marries or stays single,…
💯 The Chinese title of this drama is "Lanxiang Rugu" which loosely means Unchanging Lanxiang. This is really her story, and she remains unwavering against all the currents against her. Her future is limitless and regardless of who she ends up with or what she chooses to do in the future, she will continue to live on strongly.
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On Against the Current • 14 days ago
It is great that the 3rd generation of Lins are there for each other even if their mothers/fathers have ongoing conflicts with each other. Breaks away from the cycle of the 2nd generation of elders being messes, selfish, and irresponsible. At least the kids will be able to take care of themselves and each other.
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Replying to JJJ • 14 days ago
Pu Tao who plays the first sister also plays an abused wife in "Filter" (same scriptwriter as this drama…
She is great at playing these types of inward melancholy characters. 🙂‍↕️
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 14 days ago
Of course - she knows that a son is your son until he gets him a wife. A daughter is your daughter for the rest…
Selfish lady in many ways but love that for her! She really said screw everyone but my daughter!
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Replying to Roxy • 14 days ago
Just realized the actor who plays Lu Jian also played a wife beater in The Flourished Peony. What a way to be…
Pu Tao who plays the first sister also plays an abused wife in "Filter" (same scriptwriter as this drama and she like reusing the same cast). 😅
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On Against the Current • 14 days ago
Kind of rare to see someone like Second Madam who favors the daughter more way than her sons in this kind of period setting. Makes sense though since it is likely she raised Xiuwan directly while the grandparents raised her sons (3rd and 4th brother) as part of their education. She probably also knows the sons will be mostly fine in marriages. But her daughter might end up like her and marry someone who can cause a lot of worry and stress.
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Replying to grapejuice • 14 days ago
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I agree. But I'm not able to remember a time when he pulled back from his end of a deal when it didn't benefit…
Yes, and it does bring up the scenario too that if him and Zhao Xingtang consummated that day (and potentially had a good/decent marriage), he probably would have followed the plan. He did look forward to the marriage.

So it seems he rebelled to get away from the Zhao family in part because Zhao Xingtang hates him and he was miserable in the marriage. It was also mentioned he spoke to Marquis Yuan before which helped him decide to go into the military route instead.

Yes, he didn't understand that Zhao Xingtang didn't want a divorce because it just means she will be married off to someone else again. And it became a reality when she got married off to the Dai family after the divorce.
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Replying to Lost The Plot • 15 days ago
I find this drama is covering ideas that you don’t see in most Cdramas.They have taken the time to point out…
He did meet Ji-er in person. When Jiugao in the early arc told them the Young Master needed hot water, it was Jinqi's order to have either her or Lanxiang go with the hot water to see him. He found out about the account book and wanted to ask them questions (and to set a trap for ZXT). Ji-er was "rewarded" with money from Jinqi in return. He knew doing that would reach ZXT's ears and it led to Ji-er being beaten. Baogai also warned Lanxiang at the time that if Jinqi really wanted hot water, Jiugao would had just taken it with him, not insisted a maid to go with him (they could have done it under wraps such as Jiugao just taking Ji-er with him without anyone noticing quickly to get the questions answered). It was to let Lanxiang know even a request like this from the Lin household is not out of some goodness of their hearts.
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Replying to Lost The Plot • 15 days ago
I find this drama is covering ideas that you don’t see in most Cdramas.They have taken the time to point out…
💯 The prime example was with Ji-er. He used her yet did not remember her. She is a servant but wasn't one of the servants that caught his attention nor he considered part of his circle like Jiugao and Yuchan. His goodness with these servants were conditional and the current plot has been pushing him to confront that.
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On Against the Current • 15 days ago
I think another character we didn't talk much about going through current character development is Yuchan.

When Yuchan first showed up and gave the speech to the girls about servants working hard/showing their strength to the masters (and gaining the masters' favors), I mentioned it was inspiring to the girls. Now I look back and can finally explain why I also thought that speech was a bit uncomfortable.

In a period setting, these elites can decide to beat a servant or kill them off in secret whenever they want. No matter how much/hard servants work for the masters, their outcomes in life will always depend on the masters' mood and agenda. Just because a servant is a "good servant", it doesn't mean they will have a good outcome. Servants can't depend on the masters' favors (nor borrow their power) to ensure they will have a good life. Even in a modern setting working at a company, just because an employee works hard, it doesn't mean they won't be fired.

Yuchan saw using the power/resources of Jinqi as a given because Jinqi has the "forceful power" of the elites to get things done that people like her don't have. But Lanxiang showed her it was possible to rely on oneself and the kindness of others (gathering all those taels) to solve a problem.

I think Lanxiang showed Yuchan another means to "gain power" such as having a community of support of their own and not just having to rely on their masters potentially being a decent enough person to save the day. That probably expanded her worldview too with not limiting her thoughts to just being a "good servant".
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Replying to PReid • 15 days ago
"but power can swing from one side to another"Exactly this
I also think Grandpa Lin was even more upset because Jinqi had witnessed that himself already back with the Shen family yet he didn't truly "get the lesson". There is no guaranteed that the emperor who favors him now will favor him in 5 years especially if he keeps on being involved in the military and gain merits. We have seen all these other period C-dramas of military men being send far away to protect the border and/or their children held hostage in the palace because their army and reputation among other warriors have gotten too positive/huge and now a threat to the emperor. 🙂‍↔️
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Replying to Alice_01 • 15 days ago
Well said! These are my thoughts as well so far!
I was thinking how the scriptwriters can turn it around after the imperial decree/drugs but it seems like they are heading into the direction of Lin Jinqi being forced to confront his current worldview. The upcoming arc with his sister might also play into that. Though whether the end of his character arc will be satisfying remains to be seen. I have seen people really upset over what he had done (valid) and have to see whether these development can truly convince the audience he "changed".
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Replying to grapejuice • 15 days ago
I agree. But I'm not able to remember a time when he pulled back from his end of a deal when it didn't benefit…
Yes, for the marriage alliance, he actually married /in/ to their household so he was supposed to follow their plans such as becoming an official. He went back on that and went to the military route instead. And regardless of what happened later with the embezzlement and cheating, this marriage was not meant to end in a divorce. Lin family managed to survive by tying themselves to the Zhao family and the Lin family thus was supposed to keep the end of their deal by helping them become even closer to the imperial family/be their supporter in court. It is why Grandpa Lin was so upset because he understood it was meant to be an "exchange" but the Lin family didn't complete their end of the deal.

Jinqi offered Zhao Xingtang a mutual divorce as they hated each other and he wanted to separate from the Zhao. But he didn't understand that the divorce wasn't fully what Zhao Xingtang needed in her position. She herself needed way to separate from the Zhao too and not get divorced then get married off again.
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On Against the Current • 15 days ago
I enjoy seeing Jinqi's worldview getting rocked. 😂 He is a very typical man for his time. With both the negative qualities of being an elite who might never fully understand the struggles of the poor and women but also the positive qualities when it comes to his relationship with his siblings and responsibilities to his military men.

The drama has made it obvious his one-sided decisions regarding multiple things with Lanxiang have been wrong and he himself needs to change and adapt his views if he wants to have a good relationship with Lanxiang but also his own future as the head of the Lin household. Though he claimed he was in love with Lanxiang, he didn't truly understand her at all and was perhaps "in love" with a false image of her. He was in his delusion that a woman that was an ex-servant would be happy "marrying up" and in time, she will be in love with him just because he can provide her with anything.

The past episodes have different characters like Grandpa Lin warning Jinqi that he had used others' power to get what he wanted but power can swing from one side to another. The emperor might be happy with him today and reward him with the imperial decree he wanted, but what is stopping the emperor from issuing another imperial decree to destroy his entire family in a couple of years? Jinqi is used to using "favors" from those in power like him (and even pulling back from his end of the deal when it doesn't benefit him anymore) and he has to stop using that as his primary negotiation tactic as these favors can easily become entrapment.

Lanxiang has shown him that there were ways to negotiate with others and get what both side wants /without/ using force or giving the other no alternative options. Lanxiang's exchange with Zhao Xingtang is a good example. Jinqi though married to Zhao Xingtang, never truly understood her during their marriage nor the position she was in. But Lanxiang understood Zhao Xingtang and was able to offer her a solution in return for what she wanted too.
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