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oops 12!

Just realized you’re not at the end 🥶🥶

All i’ll say is that it gets better, in that some wild plot appears post ep20, but it definitely shouldn’t be compared with MLC. CY’s fight scenes were just a bonus icing on a very epic cake in MLC; here, the icing is basically the point and the plot kind of primarily exists to string together beautiful fight scenes 😃

(Since he’s a player/writer immersively LARPing in a world generated by AI though that’s primarily an action game/interactive novel, it does make sense not to invest too much in plot, since it’s following plot markers r we saw him outline in the opening of ep1 (with some creative license permitted) so we already roughly know where things are going.)

But yeah, I can see how it would suffer if expecting the next MLC too 🥶 if you end up continuing, then hope you enjoy the rest of the show! It’s definitely one where the enjoyment depends a lot on enjoying good fight scenes!

Because he suffers beautifully and dies so well XD

Pretty sure it’s just a couple of “blink and you miss it” type 10-secondish flashbacks to the previous season, maybe the final ep and possibly one in the middle-ish when they’re explaining how bad black fox is 😅😅

I wish someone would just permanently kill some of the bad guys lol.

In the process of being filmed. Most likely will be being filmed for the next few months I think!

Given how quick everyone was to slam Douban for the 2.5 stars thing that turned out to be fake news on the VoA page, I would wait to hear it is him before accusing him or his fans. 😅😅 So many parties seem to be trying to make the two fandoms fight that I’m wary of anything that tries to inflame a fan war between the two.

hopefully those who did it will snitch on whoever paid them, or the money trail can be traced. 🙏

Nope but it’s still good. This one’s more of a political revenge-y kind of plot, but rather than solely focusing on power games, it touches on how people’s revenge arcs affect those uninvolved in them as well, and how people either can or can’t move on from the traumas that shaped them & trap them.

There is romance but of the “everyone knew they were married but them” style vibe for the eps 1-13 for the leads, as opposed to Prisoner of Beauty style “their gazes make lightning crackle” romance. No kisses for the leads, though the secondary main couples get kisses.

I watched it on Youku 😅

I didn’t notice any of those seven surviving his plans but maybe I missed one 👀

Playing devil's advocate, but I think the theory would be that if you assume it deserved a 7 or 7.5 (this is if; ratings will always be subjective, just like any kind of voting in a democracy) and you also assume that biased fans with blinkers on would automatically give it a 10 (because as fans, the enjoyment was 10/10 for them watching their favorite, it'd have to be truly terrible before they docked any stars), then the rating ought to be above what the show would be if only rated by passerby viewers, if being manipulated by fan votes more than haters.

If the rating is under what a passerby viewer would feel the show was, and this is despite ~20% fan votes dragging it up, then the ratings can be assumed to be skewed a tad more by haters than by the fans.

But like, I loved Guardians of the Dafeng, and I have a feeling that one suffered on Douban, and I remember Journey of Legend which I also loved opened with a lower Douban score than Sword and Beloved, and meanwhile Shine on Me apparently has like 7.4. Everyone's taste differs, and what they score for differs, so there's never going to be a "valid" score. For me, at this point, I just accept that my tastes do not align with Mainland China lol, and just get impressed with the sheer number there who do vote on Douban, cuz those numbers are always insane.

310k is a lot of voters 😵‍💫🤩❤️

Are there other sites than MDL that are good for rating & discussing shows these days, do you know? (ideally ones less susceptible to black water attacks than MDL is increasingly getting to be?)

can you recommend anywhere with decent subs? ;-;

Love and Redemption.

yup. insane. 😭

Maybe needs a spoiler tag? 🙏😀

The same stuff the casts in every costume drama eat that means they never need to brush their beautiful hair yet it never gets tangled. Awesome Juice. (Tho to be fair people do die in this from some of these things. But it also depends where the stabbing is aimed for. In Ep2 they established you could aim for not vital places if you were trying to and look like you wanted to kill someone you didn’t kill, so sometimes that helps people to live too.)

I thought the city bits was a flashback to the one day he took that he referred to when chatting with YSF about how he could repay Chang’an by fighting in the granary, and that he’d followed YSF’s advice to wander around for that one day?

Ah well. As the Temu mugs say, don’t stress about what we can’t control. The haters can keep contributing to making CY’s MLs the most talked about character of the year, while I’ll continue subscribing to his shows and buying his shows’ merchandise bc I love his work 😆😂 (Not that I wouldn’t also buy MLC merch of the rest of MLCs cast too, it’s just that they don’t make as much if any 😂)