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He is very very talented at death scenes 😂 Love and Redemption I still remember that one episode where he sees his past lives in a crystal and in the space of 2 eps we get 7 beautifully performed death scenes 😂🥰😆

I dunno I’d call them sad though. I think death is never the end, it’s like life’s a test paper and death is when it’s over and you move onto a better life to come, so those left behind have the sad endings but CY’s endings are generally not too sad for me, he maintained his principles and did what he could when he could to achieve the good he wanted to achieve or enjoy the small moments between, so his characters deaths are beautiful endings for me 😂🥰 Can understand your position too though in finding them sad he seldom gets a peaceful retirement in his shows 😂

LiP is about Fugui’s parents, it is set about 20 years prior to S&B and covers basically why everyone wants the black fox gone so much.

Red Moon Pact is following Fugui’s cousin. Or rather since they’re the OG main characters (I think), Fugui would be RMP’s cousin, and LiP is a side story covered briefly/mentioned in RMP. It ends establishing a multiverse I believe from what I’ve read. (X happened to us but Y may happen to some AU versions of us etc.)

S&B follows Fugui’s journey to finally defeating Black Fox, but has canon inconsistency with RMP so either the writers just forgot certain events didn’t take place or it is set in one of those alternate universes and that’s just never mentioned in the narrative.

In terms of order I can’t advise as S&B is the only one I’ve watched. It functions fine as a standalone, but LiP may give the relationship with his dad more gravitas so one of these would be what I started with personally and just don’t worry about Red Moon Pact 😂

He is insanely good at both chemistry and dying right? 😂 I don’t know how he manages chemistry with himself either but he’s crazy good at it 🔥🔥

I hear LiP may have been good but yeah, never touching anything by the producer or writer again 🥶

At least unlike the others Fugui tried 😭😪

😂🫠

But honestly it was still overall enjoyable for me because after about ep25/26 I just started skipping the filler scenes that dragged the rating down to its present level 😂 but anyone who got to the end of this without skipping/FFWDing anything deserves a medal 😂

😂 #relate.

Worst of all is when they actively /stop/ Fugui from dealing with him as opposed to just passively not doing anything to punish him for his blatant attempts to murder them, at that point they’re just asking for horrible fates really 😭😂

lolll #truth

Basically the show commits 2 crimes:

1) it is really really really good for the first 12 eps, still solid till 17, then jumps the shark 18+, but if other viewers were like me they were so attached to nearly everyone by 18 that instead of handwaving it as “switch your brain off watch for the fight scenes” it was like 🤬 writtters whyyyy I feel personally betrayed by all characters but Fugui either due to OOC or lowered IQ

2) They benched CY for a bit, he was a support character and support characters were main characters from eps 19-30, and while that’s not a problem intrinsically the support characters had absolutely no plot. (There was an arc baked in with no buildup and post 31 it’s never referenced again and everyone acts like it never happened.)

So if you weren’t watching for CY you’re peeved the plot goes off the rails and most characters except Fugui are OOC by the end.

If you are then you’re peeved he’s got ~3-5 mins of screen time for eps 19-28-ish, and that even when you can see him he’s been blurred sometimes as if a stand in was doing those scenes not him.

If you don’t mind filler though and you’re okay with some characters being OOC sometimes (eg “I’ll never leave you!” *10 mins into the ep later * “So yeah I’ll be leaving tomorrow to get back to my day job.” type stuff) then the visuals, the acting, and the music are great. It’s a beautiful show except for the writing, that’s the only thing the rating is dropping for and the pain of it is only because it was so good for the first 12. Without attachment to the characters it wouldn’t hurt nearly as much what they did to them 😂😂

But yeah, solely writing bellyflop half way through basically. (Fights are 🔥 and eps 1-12 are really good though!)

Come December, time to get a Youku subscription 😂

Each country will have good and bad people in their entertainment industries, so I wouldn't go this far exactly. But the bad ones indeed, hope he can avoid them and stay doing what he does well, without being hurt. 🙏

hope so too, I know the BTS from Jackie Chan's movies during the closing credits were always packed with accidents and incidents. Action is very risky by nature even with no malice from anyone & teams handpicked for experience. Hope all can be safe here till the end too. We are so lucky as viewers to have such fluid action scenes in his series thanks to the hard work he is willing to put in. Next level respect for anyone who does their own stunts in movies🙏🙏

I don’t think they would be trying to kill him, but could be that because the set is new the crew would also not have worked with it before, hence things maybe aren’t performing with full consistency? That’s what I’m telling myself. Hope he completes the filming safely 🙏

Praying for his safety 🙏

Whaaa ;-; From 7.9/rank 2742 with 2348 users this morning, to 7.8/rank 3571 with 2,349 users this afternoon. idk how the ratings work but that is a massive drop for so few extra voters. I was getting so happy for it creeping up towards the rank ~2600 it needs to be to hit 8 again.

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised given the reports that just came out listing the show's financial performance as doing well on the Q3 results for the platforms, reports on it doing well financially always coincided with the downvoting & extra attacks on it while it was airing, but I wish the haters would leave this show alone ;-;

Whose fault it is depends how far back you take it. In some ways you could say the real fault lies with the original author for writing such a sad ending for their book, and the wider public for only being entertained by conflict and violence hence why LN established his modern world in the first place and invested in producing the kinds of novels he did.

Blame and cause and effect will always be cyclical things.

For me what struck home was that the good and bad both die in the end, and the happy and the wretched both die too, and the world keeps spinning on without them because new trees grow in a forest when one falls; others will rise up to carry responsibility or do evil, it’s not like it ever had to be one person. Since that’s the case, the one who is happiest both alive and dead is the one who strives for what they want to achieve while they can and holds on to their principles even when it’s tough, as no matter what those principles or goals are, they’re the ones with no regrets when dead vs those who never accept responsibility and spend their whole time taking moral compromises they then hate themselves for taking, or blaming others for everything wrong or that they’re dissatisfied with about their life, who whether living or dead are miserable. 🥰🤒

Maybe add a spoiler tag? 🙏

Trolling & blocked.

It's okay to not be able to get into a show if it's just not you. This one's probably my favorite C-drama ever, but from your profile/watch history, you (maybe? i could read it wrong) like stuff with more of a darker/edgier vibe and with maybe more morally ambiguous people, in which case maybe a series more like Warrior Baek Dong Soo or Hello Monster or Bad Guys or Liar Game may be more your vibe?

Hope so, at least we don’t have the S&B screen writer here, phewwwww! 😂 (I’m in the same boat of enjoying TJOL but the ‘you fell into a plot you didn’t write properly bc you just signposted some quest markers and then AI generated this world off someone else’s source material and like any half decent GM it IS gonna force its plot, all roads lead to the next quest marker’ baseline led me to forgive a lot of hallucinations as satire/intentional that may have bothered me if I’d taken them seriously or hadn’t had experienced GMs forcing the plot with equal dedication to attempts to digress as a player 😂 Loved that show.

There’s no transmitigation or AI plot in VoA so let’s hope that VoA is good!! 🙏😃