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The daughter didn't like it either but not sure why.

I'm losing steam on this show. I really liked it quite a bit in the beginning but I can see where it is going now with the concubine issue. I will finish but I think I need a break from harem dramas.

Okay, once in a while you check out a drama and are pleasantly surprised. The last time was Mystic Pop Up Bar. Anyway, this is very sweet.

I get what you are saying but k-dramas do it all the time. Usually if they go too far, the ratings suffer but I've never seen anything quite like this.

It seemed that the whole hallyu ban in China was easing up a bit but now parties in both countries are stirring things up again.

I have watched historical k-dramas with time travel (more than one), zombies, vampires, and many other liberties taken to the historical record so I'm gonna go with the friction between Korea and China is bubbling up and this is the result. I feel for the cast and crew who must be a bit shell-shocked over all of this because I am sure they are being criticized for just taking the role.

Even some of the classic 50 episode k-dramas (like Jumong) are heavily fiction so this whole thing is just bullying at this point.

This is definitely a harem drama but there isn't much of a love triangle even though there is a 2nd ml.

I honestly can't remember the episodes but it happens gradually after they marry, not before.

I thought the voice thing was because she was playing a 15 year old in the beginning and it kind of sounded immature and made sense...but then it didn't stop.

Someone mentioned that the "rebel" was not the right word for the English title. Don't know why they picked it but it left a lot of viewers expecting a different type character. I do think, like MingLan, this was Awu's story which is why she is the central focus. It was just hard because the guy is one of the best male leads I've seen in a C-drama.

Yes, he has charisma. I noticed the sizzle in the early kidnapping story arc.

With regard to Erniang, I as hoping the sisters would bond and put their heads together to help ease her situation. Using Erniang's abusive marriage to make her just be another annoying woman in a drama is just a bit icky for me. I've only seen through E24

If I am watching a fluffy romance drama, I better get a happily ever after. If I am watching a murder mystery, I better get an answer to "who dun it?" In historical, go with what really happened if dealing with real people.

The most important thing for me is the ending makes sense based on the genre and the journey of the characters. That's why I get upset when the drama writers pull some huge dramatic moment or have the characters do something totally outside of what we've learned of them. I don't like feeling jerked around and it is especially hard if I have really been enjoying a drama.

And an ending can be good even if everything isn't sunshine and roses. Scent of a Woman deals with a woman with a bad cancer prognosis. I thought the end was perfect and life affirming even though she wasn't magically cured and the drama leaves no doubt she is terminal. As far as bad people getting their due, I'm in the middle because I think it isn't always done well in dramas. Again, it has to make sense and sometimes bad people don't change and they get away with stuff.

I like that we are actually seeing them fall in love versus it just kind of happens like in The Rebel Princess (great drama but still). Having said that, I want the payoff and I'm getting a bit worried about that. So often in the dramas, there is no chemistry so I hate to see good chemistry get wasted.

I'll second what @Atlamisiam said. The volleyball twin bullying case really rocked things in a big way and started the flood. While bullying exists everywhere, it is really at a whole other level in Korea. I saw the article where a mom ran down her daughter's bully because she just happened to see him walking while she was driving down the road. She broke his leg. How desperate do you have to be as a parent to do something so horribly wrong as that?

I don't know what happened in this group because it always ends up being she said/she said and we're just not gonna know. What seems to be missing in these scenarios is the total lack of accountability from the agencies. You have teens starting out in these groups and managers and a company that should not play favorites and put an end to any kind of mean girl stuff. Both with this case and the one involving Mina, bad managers seem to have been an issue. And the whole living together makes everything more toxic.

Train them that they might not like each other but they will be profession and be a team or that's it. Sometimes it seems like some companies actually push competitiveness between the artists at the same time pushing to the public how they are all sweetness and light. The whole Idol system is built on a foundation that needs to change because I don't think they can hold back the floodgates anymore.

A lot of people don't know but behind the scenes, Mel Gibson and his first wife were holding out a helping hand to a lot of people in crisis in the business back in the day. One of those was Robert Downey Jr. who served jail time on drug charges. (I think jail saved his life) Anyway, when he got out, he was unemployable because movie companies couldn't get insurance because of his previous addiction issues...they had trust issues. Gibson helped smooth the way. RD was trying to do the same for Gibson.

The receptionist at the office I used to work in had a Glamour type magazine and one of the guys I worked with swore the gal on the cover had to be minimum mid-20ies. I laughed....I won that one. Can't remember exact age but still in high school.

This issue regarding male celebrities has been around forever...I mean people can google Errol Flynn from the Golden Age of Hollywood.

I actually like the way they deal with the male lead really being stuck with all these women - none of whom he actually wanted to marry. The day he visits them all and realizes he doesn't feel comfortable with any of them I thought was very well done. The multiple wife scenario usually has women very sympathetic to the wives but it wasn't all sweetness and light for the husband.

My opinion after 20 episodes is that even though the whole harem drama and scheming women concept isn't new, the pacing is quite nice. Also there is a comedic element regarding the male lead that really works. I am going to be critical if there is no evolution in any of the female characters because it would be nice if a scheming woman eventually realizes it is all for naught but I am not holding my breath.