Amastris Dratwka

Nope, it's not just the same production team. Yes it is a NOVEL trilogy. There isn't going to be any 'Ashes of Love' S2. S2 was 'Skate Into Love' & it's why Allen Deng made a guest appearance in that drama as the ML's hockey hero.

These drama compilations are based on the novel trilogy referred to as "The Honey Trilogy".

The order of the novels is 1) Ashes of Love aka Fragrant Honey; 2) Skate Into Love aka Rock Candy, & 3) Love When Star Falls aka Star Candy. The original concept was to have the leads from the 1st be in the 2nd, and then in the 3rd. however, not only did it not happen for S2 but based on the current indications, not even those from 'Rock Candy' will be in 'Star Candy' which is THIS drama.

The producers official announcements read:
"Two flowers growing side by side on the same stem, a mixed up marriage, which tore apart two absolutely beautiful fairy romances.
#thehoneytrilogy #thefinale #tvserieslovewhenstarsfall
Officially launched the original team from 'Ashes of Love', 'Skate Into Love', assemble together, build up craftsmanship. Please Stay tuned.

They explain the connections, the 3 season compilations based on the novel trilogy, and that this is the final drama in the series. There will NOT be a S2 of 'Ashes of Love' since it is complete. S2 was actually 'Skate Into Love'.

Just in case anyone questions where I got my information:
https://38jiejie.com/2020/03/11/ashes-of-love-producer-confirms-sequel-love-when-the-stars-fall-is-in-the-works/

Yep. This is actually the S2 the producers were referring to. The dramas are based on the novel trilogy referred to as "The Honey Trilogy". The order of the novels is 1) Ashes of Love aka Fragrant Honey; 2) Skate Into Love aka Rock Candy, & 3) Love When Star Falls aka Star Candy. The original concept was to have the leads from the 1st be in the 2nd, and then in the 3rd. however, based on the current indications, not even those from 'Rock Candy' will be in 'Star Candy'. It's why Allen Deng, out of no where, played the ML's hockey "Hero" as a guest role.

Based on what the producers official announced and all the information they provided, 'Ashes of Love' is the complete story in that realm, not intended to have any further seasons. The other 2 are connected based on the novel trilogy, and they initially did have the idea to have the *same* leads but it just didn't work out that way. I don't see any of the actors from S1 or S2 doing S3 'Star Candy' either.

So, essentially, the idea of a 'Season 2" of 'Ashes of Love' is dubious.
Let me put this more bluntly, this drama will NEVER happen, nor will we see the leads from S1 together.

S2 is actually the drama 'Skate Into Love' [https://kisskh.at/34030-skate-into-love] and S3 will be 'Love When Star Falls' [https://kisskh.at/58165-love-when-the-stars-fall]. It's unsure whether any of the cast from 'Ashes of Love' will appear in it though.

To understand what's going on, the drama compilations are based on the novel trilogy referred to as "The Honey Trilogy". The order of the novels is 1) Ashes of Love aka Fragrant Honey; 2) Skate Into Love aka Rock Candy, & 3) Love When Star Falls aka Star Candy. The original concept was to have the leads from the 1st be in the 2nd, and then in the 3rd. however, based on the current indications, not even those from 'Rock Candy' will be in 'Star Candy'.

This is why Allen Deng made a guest appearance as the ML's occupational "Hero" in 'Skate Into Love'. It remains to be seen if either Yang Zi or Allen Deng will even guest appear in the final drama of the trilogy...

But, with this... and based on the producers official announcements and information, 'Ashes of Love' is the complete story in that realm, not intended to have any further seasons.

Just letting you know so you don't waste your time waiting for it and speculating, and so you fully understand how 'Skate Into Love' etc. applies to this drama....

Petty? You literally cannot input any data on MDL from *any* drama or movie that is PRODUCED in any other nation than China, Hong Kong, Japan, Philippines, South Korea, Taiwan, or Thailand, period. It has nothing to do with where the actor is located. It's specific to the TITLE only. If the TITLE was NOT produced in any of those nations listed, even if it's another Asian country like Malaysia, etc. you cannot input the title. It's ALWAYS been this way. It's not "petty". lol.

I made the same comment, just rhetorically. LOL. It seems sad that an actor listed here would only have part of their life's work acknowledged but, it is fair.

When I first started helping input titles to the MDL server you couldn't upload anything from the Philippines even though a lot of us were watching their shows and it's "Asian". It wasn't until the OTP #JaDine duo craze began that MDL got the push, and the Admins updated to include those titles.

We still cannot upload anything from Singapore or Vietnam, even though we have 100s of data requests for them... so including an American production over those Asian countries wouldn't be right. ?

We have to acknowledge that MDL is a not worldwide database. There are fuller databases available. This is just an interactive database based on specific regions with attached forums. Let's enjoy what we have, and appreciate the efforts the Admins have gone to in order to give us such a fun site to use! ?

Congratulations. Such a pleasant win!

I’m not gonna write a review but, based on people’s comments I want to shed some light on this prequel:
1) Both GGS1 & GGS2 are based on a novel trilogy about standard esports written by Mo Bao Fei Bo. When I say std, it would be like written about Chinese LoL, DOTA, CS:GO, AIC, MDI teams like OMG, Vici Gaming, Edward Gaming, Royal Club, FunPlus Phoenix, Invictus, LGD, LMQ, Rogue, Team WE, IG, etc. In fact, I stopped watching LoL in favor of AWC [WoW/Blizzard] but they only have EU/NA teams so I wasn’t even aware that Chinese competing until these books were translated. In fact, for THIS season, a Chinese team already did the highest keystone clear for Mythic World First. There’s a link to video of the Team’s clear on this site [https://raider.io/news/182-world-first-mythic-25-completed-by-chinese-team].

2) For the trilogy, the 1st book is all about esports and a make-believe team, Team Solo, and is quite nationalistic. The 2nd book is about DT/Appledog and the trials and tribulations of Team Solo. The 3rd book is about Gun & Lil Squid’s relationship and is not really a sequel but a concentric story that happens concurrently with the 2nd novel, however, the 2nd novel spans quite a LOT of years longer than the 3rd novel. I only fully read the translated version of the final book.

3) Unfortunately, the CCP have tasked the censors in what topics they favor or disvalue broadcast airing. The CCP has long, for a while, been disfavorable to the topic of esports, and are against promoting esports and video gaming. In order to avoid the censors’ wrath, the PDs had to divert and rewrite the basis of the stories.

3) The only way Mo Bao Fei Bo would allow this trilogy to be adapted to screen was if she could write the screenplay for it. Therefore, she wrote the script of GGS1 herself. There are very few gaps between the original story and the drama since she is the writer. She choose CTF because the CCP were promoting and competing in the field. Interestingly enough Wang An Yu, who replaces GGS1’s Grunt in GGS2, previously starred as the ML in Forever Love where he is a college level competitor in the field, showing that the Chinese govt promotes citizens getting into the computer hacking field. Mo Bao Fei Bo was quite interested in the field so it was easy for her to write on this topic. The only difficulty was, the intensity and understanding of the competition didn’t properly translate to the screen.

4) As to the changes in characters, those in GGS1 who would be focused in GGS2 as well remained, all others were changed. Why Grunt was replaced is likely acting skill required for a lead, as an assumption, and the fact that Wang An Yu has acted in similar genre. Additionally, he sings 1 of the songs on the OST. GGS2 is the drama that FILLS IN THE GAPS of GGS1. Go back and watch GGS1 again if you didn’t realize it. TBH, Xiao Bai is hardly ever shown in the gaming house, or in discussions when he should be. Both seasons were crafted quite well in this regard. There is NOTHING repeated in GGS2 that happened in GGS1. What you are seeing in GGS2 is what Grunt, Appledog, Solo, & Xiao Bai were doing when they weren’t around in GGS1. Since Xiao Mi was focused in GGS1, he wasn’t a focus in GGS2. ?get it?

5) Mo Bao Fei Bo did not write the screenplay for GGS2. So, indeed, the concept was different from the outset. Since the CTF was difficult to translate to screen, and in GGS2 would have to be focused MORE on the gaming, because that ‘s were the drama takes place, plus they needed it to be a topic suitable to get past the censors they decided to change it. Robotics was picked specifically for that reasoning along with the timing. China just started getting into IRL international Battle Bot competitions in 2017, and held their first competition in China in 2018. The CCP is promoting the field, so the PDs knew they could get this drama transferred to airing quite quickly. [Just a note for those who find themselves WAITING a long time for a beloved drama to release and wonder why others bypass it and get aired before when it was directed later than it.]

Lastly, I didn't get to read the translated version of DT Appledog. I was wondering if anyone who had could explain to me more clearly the translation of the meaning of DT. I know what they say it stands for, but I don't get **specifically** how that translates. Like, I get how KK translates and why. That's easy. But how DT relates to Appledog, I'm not understanding that. It would be appreciated if you could put in spoiler an explanation. =)

They said it would air by now on MGTV. Now they've pushed it to 2022. A couple sites say within 2021. Frankly, I don't think it's going to happen. China is still of the mindset to not air any dramas that had Korean actors in them. =/ Don't get your hopes up.

I merely thought, after they finally released Wolf that they'd do others, but I think I was being too optimistic.

From the start, for me, it was always 'The Blue Truck of Death'. But then PDs started getting cute and changed up the color and also started using cars. ;)

I'm not kidding. They have given me a mild case of PTSD. Now, even in rom-coms, whenever someone crosses the street, even in crosswalk, WITH THE LIGHT, in a group full of people I find my whole body tenses up. It gets worse when they're alone and walking *slowly*. I expect it even when the mood is happy and light. lol. It now even happens while watching non-Asian dramas. It's like Pavlov's dogs. I'm triggered to expect it now 100% of the time. hahahaha....

Good article... I wish I had thought of writing it! =)

No English subs yet.

But he's not doing nothing. That's what you fail to realize. You yourself said you got the script dialogue in that regard. He's discussing the matter along with everyone else. I mean from your perspective then Shi Zhe Yu and Bing Wei are also sitting around doing nothing. But they aren't. As Shi De is at the board breaking down the pieces that have to be implemented those 3 are listening intently. Then Shu Yi delegates to those 2 from *his* company, and they in turn contact and delegate to those at the main HQs what they need to either know or do. Then, behind the scenes, Shu Yi is attending the corporate *dinner meetings* in order to keep them off the back of Shi De and his group so they can complete the process without problems. The 5 minutes out of ALL of this interaction you simply see Shu Yi sitting down is a TINY snippet of the ENTIRETY of what is happening.

Again, this is the part you fail to understand. I get it. You already told me you didn't *understand* when I said I'm explaining that all the BEHIND THE SCENES work Shu Yi is doing that you're not actually seeing ON THE SCREEN, is there in the dialogue, and there is already too much screen time of a THREE HOUR drama wasted on the corporate stuff that takes away from ANY time given to either of the other 2 secondary couples, let alone the OTP. Giving YOU a scene of all the work Shu Yi is doing behind the scenes adds NOTHING to the drama.

BTW, have you ever heard of an executive secretary??? Shi De doesn't have one. What he's doing is typing emails or reviewing the data. Shu Yi doesn't have to sit down a physically TYPE a email. He dictates to his 2 employees who do that work for him. Just because you find that offensive, doesn't discount the fact that 98% of executives at his level have *someone else* doing the manual labor so they're not tied up doing the minutia so they can focus on the Big Picture instead.

I worked for a multinational corporation, and the 9th largest airline in the world, All Nippon Airways as a Buyer. I also worked as a PharmTech for 8 years; was a Program Mgr for an aerospace mfr’ing company for 5 yrs ; a Cost Analyst private mail-order company for 2 years; a Contracts Consultant for an industrial water filtration mfr’ing company for 5 years; AND a Merchandiser for Macy’s for 2 yrs. My Supervisor at Macy’s oversaw what we did, and did some of the work but that was the nature of THAT type of work. In Mfr’ing though, only Engineer, QA or Operations Director were out and about actually**helping** working on PRODUCT. What part of “FAA” don’t you understand??? Quality Control came either straight from the GOVT or the company! You have to build according to the requirements, PERIOD, or you’re not SAFE. Not everyone is QUALIFIED to be out putting their hands on things, AND standing around trying to HELP is just getting in the way. Not EVERY type of business is the same, AND I got credit just fine by my bosses. The Execs are the face of the company, they not only get to be the names everyone remembers BUT they also take the HEAT and BLAME as well on our behalf. When I was a Prog Mgr I actually worked on the parts for the dome of the external tank of the Space Shuttle, and I have patches and autographs from American astronauts who came to visit our facility to thank us for our work.

I understand the situation a LOT more than you think, sir. As well, in PROGRAMMING, like MFR’ING not everyone can do that physical work, and I’m going to repeat what I said, Shu Yi may not be able to do the programming but he STILL has to SIT and WAIT while the WORK is being done because if something goes wrong he needs to figure out how they’re going to handle it and DELEGATE the resolution, and TAKE THE HEAT from the Corporate and give out a PROPER excuse why things are the way they are, and that means a **lot of sitting around and waiting**. Merchandising and advertising isn’t at all the same thing!

Curious as to why you feel you need to take 5-8 minutes of the 30 minute episode screen time so you can actually SEE how busy he is during those "exhausting dinners" he conveys. But you do you. I'm just saying, that for an Exec, he doesn't have to be busily typing away on a computer and sleeping with his head on the keyboard in order to be minutely involved in the matter, that's all. For someone who doesn't understand that, I just wanted you to understand how, I did all this work, while the Exec simply took my report, questioned me, and answered, at a DINNER meeting, with other Execs and got ALL the credit, since you don't seem to get the concept. No need to get argumentative over it. I wanted to help you understand why you're simply *not* gonna see that on-screen here, because that's wasted unnecessary production time on something that can be conveyed in a few lines. Sorry you felt you needed more from an Exec than that, but tbh, in REALITY, it's not like that either. hahaha.

Hmm. I guess you've never worked under Executives before, eh?

I was a Buyer for All Nippon Airways. Back in the day, when the B777 was newly released, ANA was the 2nd airline to take receipt of it. When you buy from Boeing you only get the airframe, not the avionics, equipment, engine, and internals. It's like buying a house, then you have to either buy piecemeal your furniture, or get an interior decorator, etc. I was responsible for the ENTIRE *initial provisioning* of the aircraft. We were purchasing the APU from Allied Signal, and it was a new design. I won't go into the details, but there were flaws that had the company pushing out the lead time to 180 days. ANA *still* had to do *FAA* certification, since they were using a *different* engine than United did for the release of the very 1st B777 aircraft. New engine, new cert required. You can read the B777 wiki under "Design Effort" to understand the parameters we're dealing with here.

Anyway, ANA had already scheduled holiday package events, etc. around the initial date of clearance, and the 180 day window was completely unacceptable to the Executives at ANA proper. For clarification, I specifically worked for ANA Trading Corp. USA in Los Angeles, a subsidiary. Since I was the one responsible for securing the purchase & scheduling of the parts, I was tasked with flying to Tempe, AZ; meet with key mfr personnel, visit the mfr facility, watch the production, pull up every secret sheet & look under it, investigate, and finally DEMAND a better schedule then REPORT back to Executives about my findings. When I say "report", I mean an elaborate breakdown of everything I learned in the form of what you might do for a college PhD dissertation.

When I returned, I didn't meet with my direct bosses. I gave them a copy of my report, but instead of having a meeting with them to discuss it, I was was literally sent into the executive office of the President of my company. He had a copy of my report, and we sat in the couch area of his HUGE office drinking ocha tea while, as he was looking through my report, he asked me specific questions. See, I had given a very, VERY detailed explanation of a design FLAW that had occurred. There's a lot to it that's technical, but let's just say that, at the end of the day, the schedule was NOT going to get changed. I legit thought I was gonna get fired, but in the end I was praised. WHY?!? Because this is what happens with Executives. They do NOT do the work. They hire capable people to do the *work* for them. In order to, hire capable people and DELEGATE they have to understand EVERY aspect of the company, not just 1 area, and what is going on in the ENTIRETY of the company, in order to adjust and make appropriate decisions that ultimately affect the bottom line of the company.

See, at the time before I gave my report, the Executives at ANA in Japan didn't want to ADJUST their schedule EVENTS. What THEY believed was that I was solely responsible for the scheduling issue. I just wasn't FORCEFUL enough in demanding a better date, and was allowing the company to put American customers in front of us. The President of MY subsidiary was on the line for all of this. In the end, with my report in hand, he was able to go to Japan, since this was at a time before INTERNET & EMAILS, hahaha, and explain, and, thus, ANA made the appropriate re-scheduling and we worked together to get the situation corrected.

So, Shu Yi isn't just sitting around. You hear him tell Liu Bing Wei & Shi Zhe Yu to "make trouble" for the directors at Cheng Yi's Japan division to distract them for trying to pick out what's happening at Hua Cing Tech. Shu Yi is overseeing EVERY aspect of this, not just what's going on at Hua Cing, and is massaging the overall situation, and he has to be in those meetings to have the best gist of what to expect going forward, and to delegate between alternative ideas if something doesn't work out. So, no, he's not just sitting around, he's the FINAL Boss that makes the FINAL decisions as to how they resolve the issue. The other people are like me, just a worker bee gathering data and providing it to the decision makers. ;) Plus, in the end, no one involved will even remember my name nor what I contributed to the efforts. lol.

That's not why CLOY didn't get the same treatment. One, CLOY isn't historical whatsoever.

There are still investigations and litigations with regards to the govt's lies about this tragedy still to this day. Again, the litigation/investigation are over LIES that NK spies were among the student protesters.

There is nothing being discussed or litigated regarding a fantasy story that takes place in NK, period.

That many I-Fans don't understand the magnitude of the difference between them is really sad.

Would they, in the name of freedom of speech, be okay with a production that denied the Holocaust, if it was just a fantasy take in the "melodrama" with "dark humor" not meant to be 'documentary' and 100% accurate? There are 16 EU nations that criminal 'Holocaust Denial'. You couldn't get it on air, PERIOD. !! So, that South Koreans want to do the same with the DENYING of the fact that their govt killed thousands of citizens by LYING that NK spies were part of the student protest, LET THEM DO IT, and quit complaining.

What offends me is that the I-Fans don't get that this LIE is being litigated as we speak in South Korea. That promoting that lie directly impacts the victims and the families of the dead. I want to make that clear. That the president at the time, Chun Doo Hwan only this past November, 2020 was convicted on ONE aspect of his lies.

South Koreans are not interested in having a drama support and perpetuate the lie of this former dictator/president of RoK to confuse their youth OR the international public whatsoever. They have a right to demand that, non-'documentary' or not! There are serious consequences in this matter, and I'm sorry that I-Fans don't understand this and are only interested making sure they get to see the celebrities they like, such as a member of BlackPink. What the victims get to STILL suffer over all these years, perhaps, is more important than that.

It is a legal matter, and, yes, South Koreans have a right to petition the Blue House in order to stop it, and yes, that is the South Korean public's FREEDOM to do so. There are ongoing **investigations** and lawsuits with reference to the perpetrators LYING about what happened back then and the VICTIMS wanting to FINALLY get their day in court.

That you don't understand that aspect of this history means, you just need to take a step back. This is a lie that caused the deaths of thousands of citizens. You trivializing this is not a good look.

I read what JTBC in their own words. What part of "Dark Humor" "taking light" a taboo topic don't you get. It's enough for them to say that.

What part of Sewol and having JUST impeached their first president don't you understand??

In 2014, a chaebol Exec VP of Korea Air, Heather Cho, in the Nut Rage Incident, where she forced a plane at JFK back to the gate with passengers on board to admonish flt attendants by forcing them to kneel down & assaulted him because she didn't like the way the served her nuts. It took a year and INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC sentiment for her to be indicted over this!

It's only RECENTLY that the Korean public has been able to speak out on matters of NEPOTISM and misconduct by the elite.

Yeah, but you people are more on about watch a member of BlackPink in a drama than the fact that MISINFORMING THE INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC might have an impact into whether they can bring any of these members to justice. INVESTIGATIONS ON THE MATTER ARE STILL ONGOING! Did you not read that they just charged him with lying about the incident just the just in NOVEMBER, 2020? Why would South Koreans want to allow ANY production to mischaracterize a situation they are JUST NOW getting conviction on???? WTF are you on about, seriously.

Again, this is beyond callous. Free speech doesn't include LYING.

Well, frankly, calling me a 'retard' and putting words in my mouth that I'm not saying is YOUR problem or issue. That you read it through 'triggered' colored lens is also your problem not mine. I don't need to rewrite anything, and normal person would read it and understand that what I'm saying is that if you have a problem with a middle school kid sexually harassing his schoolmates when he was 12, then you most certainly should have a problem with NIS/KCIA raping women during this incident and not have any of them depicted or glorified in anyway in this drama, PERIOD.

The fact that you don't get that part, and see only this speaks volumes about you and your hypocrisy.