Amastris Dratwka

Yeah, I really agree with you. Reading the novel is so worth it.

I finally got around to reading the novel, and WOW! It really does clarify a lot of the criticism people are throwing at it.

Below I made a long post regarding Yu Tu's salary, believing, based on the drama, he worked for Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corp. Turns out, in the novel, Yu Tu actually works for Shanghai Aerospace Institution. My suggested Yu Tu earnings was based on the other company, but now that it's Shanghai which is MUCH lower than Xi'an, let me correct it. SAI's base salary is $239,188 CNY per year. I was saying that Yu Tu was making likely $46K USD working at Xi'an. Turns out he's making $37K USD working for SAI.
[Salary Ref data: https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/aerospace-engineering-head/china/shanghai ]
[Ref. comment link: https://kisskh.at/62337-you-are-my-glory#comment-6849483]

Yu Tu really is poor.

But then some commenters were bitching about "..why Yu Tu not get paid by Jing Jing for coaching..." Most replies were that they are former schoolmates, & I even felt, based on the drama, that he did it because he felt guilty about the online bashing of him rejecting her in high school.

Turns out, based on the novel, we were all wrong, those complaining about him not getting paid as well. It seemed to all go over everyone's head, but the interaction and reasoning is clearly stated in the novel but was a bit brushed over in the drama.

Here's the gist:
"...Yu Tu clicked to go into WeChat. The research institute’s large work group was currently discussing this in full swing, and about three or four people had simultaneously posted a screenshot of Qiao Jing Jing’s Weibo post.
...
...Xie Yue Yi Lun: I’ve already asked. He said they did not hire her! They asked a less well-known star before and the charge was three hundred thousand for a post, so how would they even dare consider Qiao Jing Jing?"

So, besides her telling him her dilemma, and handing his company a unsolicited endorsement of one of their products that's estimated to be worth more than $300K CNY ...she goes on to beg him:
"..Anyway you’re on vacation, so it should not affect your work …"

And although he felt he was in a difficult position he replied, “You trust me?” When she said yes, he felt it was so similar to when she asked him for help with math, & he didn't even remember why he rejected her back then...and his own thoughts NOW? "..I really have no reason to refuse at this moment. I do have nothing to do currently." So, he agrees.

Qiao Jing Jing confirms & clarifies: “Really?” “Willingly?”

End of this debate is:
"Yu Tu nodded."

Except it's literally the game Honor of Kings they're playing, it's not 100% about gaming. Yu Tu plays games to unwind since his real job is an Aerospace Engineer, and this drama is based ENTIRELY on a story written by Gu Man published by Jiuzhou Press; 1st edition (May 1, 2019) at 345 pages.

The drama was confirmed Oct. 19, 2020, and started filming December 16, 2020, and ended filming January 12, 2021 and is entirely based on Gu Man's book, including the EXACT game she uses in her book. Not 'Wild Rift' nor is 'Wild Rift' even mentioned. On top of that, beta release of 'Wild Rift' in the USA was done March, 2021, 2 months AFTER this drama was completed, and has been approved by NPPA in 2021, although there's not set release date by Tencent, and while doing this drama they had no way of knowing when or even IF the NPPA would approve it for release....

so please don't go making up your own erroneous stories to smear the drama. If you don't like the subject matter fine, but don't accuse production of things they haven't done.

I actually felt really bad for her to have any lasting footage of her in any relationship to him. I’m glad she made such a statement. Very respectful and dignified. I know you aren’t, but I happen to be a fan of hers and this just solidifies her worth to me.

Oops. You're totally right.

So his accepting to help her out for fun and for free, out of the goodness, and kindness of his heart was two-fold. He original agreed to help her out as an online QQ friend...then agreed to help in person when he realized she was his schoolmate that got dissed publicly because of him. ;) No more explanation is needed other than Yu Tu is a nice guy with a month's worth of vacation time on his hands.

It's pretty serious when the CCP bans all fan supportive forum sites, CCTV and other agency admonish fans from showing any support, and they mute 3 entertainment industry women's accounts who had participated in slut shaming women who reported on Kris's behavior back in 2016 so that they are unable to defend him again. Then police out and confirm his mom for providing hush mom from Canada, when she had already been rumored to have done this same thing in the 2016 bed pic incident.

On August 1, QQ Music, NetEase Cloud Music, Kugou Music and other music platforms have removed Wu Yifan’s singer information and personal music works.

Wu Yifan and his studio Weibo , Weibo Chaohua, Douban Character Homepage, Baidu Baijiahao, Baidu Tieba , Toutiao, iQiyi Bubble Circle, etc. have all been banned, and the official blog of the TV series "Qing Zan Xing" has also deleted the relevant content.

Today, it is reported that Wu Yifan's info has disappeared from the homepage of the films and television dramas he has participated in and became the code name 1337000.

I like how you skipped over my explanation. At 30, he's making $46K USD per year at his employment with Xi'An, PERIOD . Fine that he's single. But ask any "30 year old PhD engineer or other occupation" if they can support a wife and kids on that, while covering the cost of the healthcare for 1 of your parents when they get cancer. That is his dilemma. He's not living in YOUR world but his! He can NOT get a raise, based on Xi'an's pay grade for another 10 years. YES, his work is based on YEARS WORKED, end of discussion.

Additionally, you obviously didn't pay attention to what was going on in this drama. Their high school group chat had talked shit about her being rejected by Yu Tu. It hit the headlines and became part of public gossip articles about the FAMOUS ACTRESS. He felt personally BAD about it so he went into the group chat to explain that this wasn't the case AND he ALSO stated, "...if there's anything else that needs to be done, let me know..." She originally brought him there under false pretenses, BUT immediately disclosed this fact to him then when she said, "...let's go for a walk..." not taking him up to her home said false issue, she let him know her exact issues. She asked for his help, and since he is on vacation for a month, she is a classmate that got publicly smeared over issues surrounding him, and he stated that he'd help with anything else, he WILLINGLY agreed to help her, FOR FREE, AND BRING HER BREAKFAST TO BOOT, of his own accord... AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

Please stop re-interpreting the facts of this drama to meet your own personal life and needs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_of_Kings

I'm a Love O2O fan, and in the 1st episode I said, "...is this Xiao Nai on steriods...". Now I think he's anything BUT Xiao Nai. He doesn't have any of the qualities of Xiao Nai as a person, other than he gets attention for being smart and handsome. He is social but has few close friends. His school mates put him down, and his work is proprietary, thus, govt clearance is required in order for him to divulge anything about what he does.

At the point these 2 meet, they are 30, and both have their own quality work related issues that are juxtaposed to each other. Yu Tu is struggling under a lot of various pressures that he cannot talk about as a whole to anyone. Over the course of the 1st 12 episodes, he went from a conflicted introvert, holding in a multitude of emotions, to an emotionally freer human whenever he's with the FL. The only time he smiles, and he does so heartily, is when he is with her and her circle of colleagues. When he's with her, at this point, he carries 3 different expresses effortlessly that portray his inner thoughts about her: 1) dumbfounded, 2) amused, 3) touched. ...this is a slow burn... so the "in love" may or may not be there. It's up for the viewer watching Yu Tu to decide. ;)

It's a 2-fold situation for YT. Banking is NOT merit based and economic driven, i.e. years put into the company. His aerospace govt job is based in the amount of years you have worked for the company for each increase. If you look at the link you can see how many years you have to work to get each additional pay increase. His working at Xi'an will mean he has to work at least a decade or more longer before he come close to what he can make now in investment banking. It's a real dilemma for him, and no small matter. Anyone wanting to trivialize his plight in this drama hasn't been in the workforce long, and doesn't understand what the loss of potential income over-time means to a person's retirement. I worked in aerospace i.e airlines as well as mfr, industrial building mfr, and cost analysis. I have a IB degree with a minor in Finance, and was recruited into aerospace by All Nippon Airways, although it wasn't my field of expertise, and they trained me fully. Now I'm self employed. I can completely appreciate the situation Yu Tu is in and that's why I felt the need to come to his defense.

Actually, you're statement is erroneous. You can merely google this information easily to verify.

Chinese EX:
☑️ If you work as an Engineer for Shanghai Aerospace, you'll be making $160k-$170K CNY, which is the equivalent to $26K USD per year. This is in 2021 inflationary dollars.

☑️ Further, a typical aerospace engineer in China actually makes between $287K CNY/$44K USD ~ $661K CNY/$102K and salary is based on years of experience. So to get the jump to the highest pay, you have had to work for 20 years in your field. The AVG is $402K CNY/$62K USD

☑️ On the other hand, you can read financial data from Wall Street analysts regarding "INVESTMENT BANKING" in China. Around a decade ago, China, starting climbing and becoming a leader in investment banking in Asia. NOW PRESENTLY, which is the basis of this drama, China has become a leader in investment banking, inc, DCM, ECM, as well as M&As. By 2016, China had taken over 76.6% of investment banking, in terms of fees, in Asia.

☑️ With this basis, Wall Street analysts have noted that previously banking worker lower salaries have been steadily increasing due to the realization that pay matters to maintaining topnotch employees in the field. Which means, that although local banks/securities are paying between comparatively $40K ~ $60K USD, the large banks are paying between $80K-$100K. That's not based in years of experience, that's IMMEDIATELY.

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🔘 So, if we sum all this information up, as well as include the dialogue of various scenes of this drama where the discussion of salaries, etc have been made, we can surmise this about Yu Tu's CURRENT situation:

✅ Yu Tu works for Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation, based on the dramas information. The AVG salary for their employees is $385K CNY/$59K USD per year and is based on experience. We know, based on the time gap between graduating high school, or the last time he saw JJ, to now, is ~10 years. That includes his time in college which, generally is 4 years, but he's also a double major. For kicks, let's give him the high side. That means at most he's at +32% of the STARTING SALARY which would be ~ $300K. So, he is likely currently making $46K USD/yr. For a single man that can work. Add a wife, kids, and taking care of your parents... ¯\_(ツ゚)_/¯
[http://www.salaryexplorer.com/salary-survey.php?loc=3186&loctype=3]

✅ If we take the discussion with his friends in Finance, especially the conversational part about his current roommate/friend, saying that he's made $1M CNY the previous year. This equates to $150K USD per year. Of course, his college mates told him he'd likely have to start at the bottom of the ladder, but Yu Tu has many connections so he's not going to a SMALL or LOCAL bank, but a BIG banking firm. As stated before, and as the drama dialogue would suggest, that means that, at the least, he'd be making between $60K ~ $80K USD per year right off the bat.

✅ so if you add ✅⇔✅ that means that Yu Tu is debating between staying another 5 years in Aerospace to go from making $46K USD/yr to $64K USD/yr working endlessly and never seeing friends or family VERSUS making minimum $60K USD/yr NOW and within a few years getting paid similarly to his friends at over $100K USD/ year.

I mean if you think leaving $40K USD per year on the table that you could be saving and investing is not being a man, and he should "STFU" about it... I'd question your logic. For ANY Middle Class family THIS would be a HUGE decision to contemplate... So, I beg to differ with your interpretation.

Actually, the only thing Japanese is the drama I'm comparing this this to based on the weibo/istg similarities. 乔晶晶工作室 is the Chinese weibo account that is using the Chinese pseudo-actress, Qiao Jing Jing, as the basis. Qiao Jing Jing is not a REAL person but the FL character in this drama played by Dilireba. [the pseudo weibo acct: https://weibo.com/u/1615524812?refer_flag=1005050010_&is_all=1]

The 乔晶晶工作室 [Qiao Jingjing Studio] weibo account is everything I didn't know I wanted for this drama. Reminds me of 'Kikazaru Koi ni wa Riyuu ga Atte' where Mashiba Kurumi's istg account was posted that matched up with the drama. This kind of immersion just puts dramas on a whole new level.

Not only did they post JJ's schedule but they 'refuted' her relationship with Yu Tu stating, "..please don't read too much into this. He's a classmate." LMFAO! ....[such perfection]

For anyone thinking that it should be normal for a production company to cancel or alter an actor's contract, and affect other actors who are innocent over an individual's private matters, I suggest that Korean talent agencies should **now** consider making certain addendums to their contract to avoid this kind of thing in the future from destroying their talent's livelihood to combat those ideas/attitudes.

As to Koreans in general, I'm just gonna state that your own Supreme Court justices disagreed with you back in 2015 when they overturned all laws criminalizing adultery on the precondition that it 𝐯𝐢𝐨𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐬 𝐡𝐮𝐦𝐚𝐧 𝐝𝐢𝐠𝐧𝐢𝐭𝐲 and the 𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐮𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 includes 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞 which includes one's sex life, and that said sex live is a 𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐭𝐞 matter.

That being said, this person is not a married man to boot. So, if your courts say this about someone 𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐝 what are you ALL on about in 2021?

Do many find it distasteful behavior? You betcha! But it's not criminal. IT'S PRIVATE. Which means NOT PUBLIC, nor to be involved with their PUBLIC LIFE that includes their EMPLOYMENT.

I'm just gonna drop this here and say, 'Nowadays, people all around the world have lost their ever freaking loving minds over Canceling people and their careers over things they "DISLIKE" about someone and their behavior. MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS![https://www.cnn.com/2015/02/26/asia/south-korea-adultery/index.html]

I first saw he in the movie 'Left Ear' and he was the absolute best part of that movie and made it the most emotional. Great actor.

Wow. I'm actually stunned at some of the comments.

I get that there will always be a variety of views and perspectives but some just really seem to defy logical reasoning.

Take the comments about Bai Jing Ting looking like a teenager or even a middle schooler that they cannot take him seriously in this role. LMFAO. Even to the point of saying, '...he's better in a School Drama than this...' like WTF? Seriously? Bai Jing Ting is a 27 year old man 𝐫𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬 of how young he appears to the viewer. What's more 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜? A grown ass man acting like a 16 year old or a grown ass man acting his age? You don't think a 20 year old can be an EMT, a firefighter, a policeman because the dude irl looks like a flower boy and has a cute baby face? My son is 20 and one of his beautiful friends from high school, who happens to be a female, has been an independent EMT for 2 years now, and just past testing to be apart of a firefighter station, and lives there with the men. For those who cannot count, that's 18 years of age to start! ~and it's FEMALE. Maybe American standards are different than Asian, but if so, that's utterly sad that LOOKS matter more. hahahaha.....

Check yourselves and your attitudes regarding 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 being everything to a character. How vain do you have to be that this is all you concern yourself with about an actor/actress? The ageism and attractive stereotyping is just sad in this day and age, I'm baffled how prevalent it still is.

By this standard, the K-Drama, American Drama, J-Drama, & Turkish Drama of 'The Good Doctor' should be an utter flop and people disgusted by it. Thankfully, people can look past the '𝐛𝐚𝐛𝐲 𝐟𝐚𝐜𝐞' and accept the concept of someone being intelligent and capable despite their 𝐥𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐠𝐞.

Yes and no. Basically, the trilogy novels by which Ashes of Love as a drama was sourced does not have a sequel per se. The author has an online novel where they have been recently writing a Book 2 for Ashes of Love, but, as written, it is not a continuation of the Ashes of Love lead characters story, but years later about Run Yu’s story.

As indicated above, Ashes of Love is part of a 3 novel compilation, where each story is basically a standalone story. However, again, that doesn’t preclude the PDs of Ashes of Love, the drama, to hire script writers and create their own Ashes of Love sequel, however, the PDs never indicated they were going to do that. Instead they made dramas of the other 2 standalone novels from the trilogy compilation. Those dramas are this one, ‘Skate Into Love’, & the yet to be released, ‘Love When the Stars Fall’. Hope that answers your question.

Let's say that, due to Korean defamation laws, saying things about someone's work in a derogatory manner, whether true or not, is always a 'no-no'. Most outlets will err on being polite.

What is true is that an official from the PD Dept state that they desired to place a fresh face for the lead. It is true she completed the audition and reading stage successful, however, when it came to the actual filming it was off. There are several 'reasons' circulating, including the very rude version of it being about her 'poor acting'. The actress herself stated that she, herself was hesitant about it, but attempted to do her best with every intention of seeing it through. For PDs side, I think it maybe an issue with the Director or, truthfully, she did get in over her head that caused her to have difficulty in the actual conveyance of the character to the screen. Whatever the Director wanted from the character, she wasn't able to fulfill. Their view was that, when it came time to film, she just didn't "FIT" the character they wanted, and this is supposed to be a huge drama, so it needed to be addressed immediately before things went further.

Again, PD had every intention to use a "ROOKIE" actress but it didn't turn out as expected.

In this vein, PD has decided it will only offer the role to an "EXPERIENCED" actress. It is confirmed by Jung So Min herself that she has been offered the role, but her side has only stated, today, that she's favorably/positively reviewing the script. It's not assured she'll take the part.

Rest assured, the PD of a huge TvN drama isn't looking to be stuck without an actress going into filming. They've already released some hyped up dramas, some that have been received more favorably than others. They're obviously well aware of fighting for market share. Their current most popular dramas after 'Vincenzo'; 'Navillera'; & 'Mouse' finished are 'Mine'; 'My Roommate Is a Gumiho'; 'Doom at Your Service'; 'The Devil Judge'; & 'You Are My Spring'. They're currently on a roll and the shareholders of CJ E&M have certain expectations now. Simply giving a look to a fresh new face despite not having an actual good fit on screen isn't one of them. The intentions were there on both the actress & PD's part but they failed for whatever reasons. I believe, since the actress had already been in a NetFlix drama and did well, they had higher expectations for her than she could fill.

I wrote what I did before I've even watched the scene because of these very comments. The idea that I have to accept the premise of a plot or I can't watch it is ludicrous. I suffer from DND syndrome, so it's often the case I finish dramas/movies that I could rate a 1.

It's like these people have never read a Roger or Ebert review and don't understand the concept. A critic can take the overall premise of the plot and say it explores toxic relationship tropes. The critic can also evaluate whether they handled that trope well.

As it stands, for me at episode 2, I'm curious why we're even 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 talking about this 𝐨𝐧𝐞 issue. This person has broken into the home, not once, but twice, which is illegal, as far as I know, and approached a person who was passed out on sleeping pills. The person is stalking someone, invading their privacy, and, the mere fact he held back doesn't discount, he broke in the home and got into another person's personal space without their consent. It starts off with a horribly 𝐭𝐨𝐱𝐢𝐜 situation...and acting like that's normal behavior, it's no wonder that #MeToo exists. Anyone who saw this scene and thought, "... oh look... how cute..." has issues.

He also physically assaults a person he doesn't know over something he misconstrues and lord knows how far he would have taken it if someone else didn't come along and scare him off. Again, randomly assaulting someone in an alley is 𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥, as far as I know. That's even more toxic behavior. So, when you put these initially things together with the issue of 'whether or not it's rape' really begs the question: How could you watch all these 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬, and then come away with the idea that anything else he has done isn't just as questionable?

You really have to set your mind aside to believe there's anything appropriate in this guy's behavior, even at episode 2, without the sex.

I don't need you to explain the motivation of characters in a drama that actors are portraying, either in Spain or Taiwan.

Sorry if this might sound rude but did you watch the video I posted in the link? That's real life. What you are describing is make-believe. It's a drama created in someone's mind and put on screen as a fantasy. It's not a documentary. Gaslighting is a thing. Date rape is a thing. Trying to excuse it or normalize it is your own issue. Of course, we all know there are rape victims, for reasons all their own, most not good reasons, they don't say a thing, or accept it, or go along with it... but trying to convince me that someone drunk can consent to sex isn't really a positive attitude to take. The video explains the reasons why, regardless of whether or not you think it's harmful.

"A lot of people are saying yes, when in fact, no," Fortier-Brown said. "Even though we're in a relationship, even though we've had consensual sex, even though we're both drunk, it does not matter. If one party is drunk or both parties are drunk, you cannot have consensual sex. And there is not implied consent in a relationship."

The idea of confirmed consent is very important:
"Argentinian company Tulipán has created a "consent condom" that requires four hands to be opened, intending to raise awareness about consent in the bedroom. "If they don't say yes, it means no," the tagline on a video demonstration says. "Consent is the most important thing in sex."
https://twitter.com/TulipanARG/status/1110978099368394752?s=20