I'm a few minute into ep 1 and it's already nonsense. I'll continue a little bit but it seems that the drama is already hopeless. After that scene, I read comments about the drama here and it's likely that I will drop it it this nonsense continues. A female casually walks into the offices of a large company and asks to see the FL who's not-yet employee but on probation for a personal matter. And the FL just casually leaves her work desk to talk to this unknown woman. After the female starts discussing the boyfriend, one would think the FL would move to a different location to continue the talk, but no. And then, the FL, who is being watched and judged constantly for her performance starts to loudly argue with that woman over her boyfriend while seen and heard by everyone in the office and beyond. In the US, no one casually walks into a company's large office to talk to a worker during office hours. No even family members. That would not be permitted in a large company setting. In a strict Chinese workplace, even less permitted; she would be stopped at the reception. And it seems that this company is rather strict. So the scene showing this women argue in front of everyone is absolutely stupid. Besides, why couldn't the woman wait until the FL finishes working first to approach her? She didn't have to go in the middle of her workplace in the middle of a workday.
I love dramas because the their wonderful make believe stories. But sometimes, writers add some absurd and completely unbelievable scenes that make no sense. And that annoys me. Because adding these stupid scenes to an already hard to believe general story is too much. For instance, the FL begins working in a very high end jewelry store where the female employees are all wearing the same clothes, shoes and hair style that are strictly enforced and no personal jewelry. I doubt very much that they would allow a new employee to wear a big and really noticeable colorful brooch on her blouse. The writers just added this scene so that a rich customer wants to take it from her.
In ep 13, the workers get mad and, because they haven't been paid for one day. That's very unlikely So they protest in the mall and are allowed to bring a bunch of things that can be used as weapons? Then, one throws a metal bucket at the FL, but the ML gets injured, bleeding and it's just ok? The worker doesn't get arrested? That doesn't make sense.
I'm getting very tired and bothered by this drink culture or tradition. I wonder if this is just an Asian drama…
I agree with you. They're supposed to drink together to show that they respect each other and work together. Even when the person says no thank you or no, no more, they 'force' them to continue. Women can definitively not drink as much as men without getting drunk and it's very disrespectful. There are so many reasons why a person should not drink, such as medication, allergies, or even for the simple fact of getting drunk. But they continue to badger them so they drink and drink more. That aspect of Asian culture really disgusts me. Another thing that upsets me is that when characters have a set back, a problem, or are sad, mad.... they immediately go to drinking and most of the time get very drunk. It looks disgusting and leads to problems, such as women getting raped, beaten.... Alcohol is not a remedy for problems in life and won't solve anything.
My opinion after ep 4: Too many accidental slips/falls that lead to men/women to touch/embrace or kiss. Too many people/noble women with little or no protection walking in the forest and getting attacked, in daytime or nighttime. Too many bandits/robbers everywhere. Too many magic spells. Too many poisonings. Too many accidents/people hurt. Too many bad guys working together or separately. Too many absurd inconsistencies. Too many scenes that don't make sense based on the previous scenes. The plot is great and it's an interesting story. Some actors are awesome. I'll keep watching, but all these too manys may be just prove too much to continue, unless the story captivates me!
I loved this lakorn! All the actors tops! The story was interesting and the chemistry between the leads was awesome. But I don't understand why the writer didn't give the FL a strong consistency; instead he: - Changed the FL's abilities to make her so weak. At the beginning, she grew into a strong woman. She was able to shoot guns perfectly and she was physically and mentally very strong. Then, a couple of episodes later, she turned into this weak woman constantly in need of protection. At some point, the bad gay lost a gun during a fight, but instead of grabbing the gun to protect the ML, she just stayed there, still. Towards the end, she was constantly overpowered and needed to be saved over and over. - Didn't keep the FL emotionally strong. The FL, with her adoptive father had years to prepare her and plan for 1974, when the will be opened. But she became so emotionally fragile later and constantly kept giving hints to that she could be Chompoo. There was already suspicion that she may still be alive. But she kept talking about her father the general too often as if a stranger would do so. She also played violin like Chompoo. What is the likelihood that in a small poor village, within a close area of the property, there's be a girl playing violin; the same song too! The general was a stranger to her, supposedly, but she cried for him over and over and prayed for him all the time in their house. That is a complete giveaway. The FL moved into a house, knowing that she is spied on, but she writes a diary where she tells it all and anyone could find it in her room! And I don't like the fact that the writer: - Had Krut killed at the end. He had a bad childhood, but later changed and protected and loved the FL. Sure, he committed a crime to avenge his father and killed a very evil criminal, but he could have stayed alive and have a productive life after only a few years in jail I was very sad to see him die. - Had the bad guy Han and his gang escape over and over. They were beatings, shootings and stabbings, but that bad guy escaped every single time. I would understand that it happens once, twice, or maybe even three times. But it happened about 9/10 times! That the bad guy could outrun the good guys so many times is ridiculous.
Really? The tag says; Animal Death..... wth!Dropped it before I even started it XD
Shemni, in many developing or third world countries, animals are considered animals. They are food or protection. It's only in the rich countries that people worship their domestic animals and some even consider their pet dog as 'my son". In the US, it's becoming common to see dogs or cats in special strollers, just like babies! So, an animal death is rather sad in Thailand, but in rural areas, it's not a big deal.
While the ending with the SML is good, the story of the two is them doesn't make sense. Banthao loved her for years but never said or did anything about it; why wouldn't he since she didn't have a boyfriend for years? They make it seem like the FL loved him too but, because Banthao didn't make any move, neither did she. So, while she is supposedly loving Banthao all this time, she just meets someone else and marries the new guy within weeks. This, without knowing her new husband well. One would think that Banthao would at least react and try to stop her, be desperate, tell her that he loves her... But nothing happens and she marries the bad guy ML. And at the end, weeks after the death of her husband and all this drama, she is back to loving Banthao. She sure got over her husband fast!
I don't mean to be rude, but I'm very confused. So the girl who looks like a super model (Green?) is the "plain"…
I agree with you. Esther is cute and if you google her to see images, sometimes, she's very pretty when she has good make up on. I think that she's great for the girl next door role, a FL's best and supporting friend, with whom a guy falls in love after he knows her great personality and good heart. Green is very beautiful, no matter what picture you look at. She's supermodel like. Very gorgeous and a guy would fall for her right away. Because this lakorn is much centered on Chalai being plain and Rotsinee beautiful, the director should have reversed their roles!
I've found this good drama in 2023. Interesting and it keeps you watching. Very suspenseful and the acting is tops, especially their little daughter! The thing I dislike about it is that a lot of scenes are in the dark. Sometimes completely dark with occasional glimpses of the silhouettes moving, or just a view of a face, but we can't see what's happening at all. Police interrogations in a completely dark room at the station ? Would never happen in real life.
A long drama, but so worth watching. Dealing with divorce and new love is never easy: affairs, jealousy, lies, impulsive reactions, money, child custody, mistrust... This drama portrayed the story very realistically. All characters had flaws but they grew and it ended peacefully. The younger ML never stopped loving the FL and he was kind to her throughout the drama.
Why is it that in so many Asian dramas, the family/friends of the ML or FL always hide the truth about the past to 'protect' them and to make sure 'they don't worry" because they love them ? By doing so, they create bad/dangerous situations in the future because the ML or FL are unaware of what's going on. In this drama, the FL is completely unaware that one of her older trusted confidants is actually a murderer. Had she known the truth before, she would have been more careful.
Jang Um Ji was one of the most irritating characters I've seen in a drama. Utterly rude, gross, unpleasant, nosy and the combination of all these made her really ugly and disgusting at times. I can't believe she is the FL's friend. The last thing I'd want is a friend like her.
Of course, everyone in dramas just enters their apartment in the dark, closes the door in the dark and remains in the dark, even when the light switch isn't working. No one would of course, try to leave the front door open just a little bit to get some light and figure out what happened inside. Oh, dramas are so illogical.
This is my first and only drama rated 1 out of 10. Yet, the writers could have turned this interesting story into a hit. NON-STOP MISUNDERSTANDINGS between the FL and the ML. It gets old very fast. If you like that, then yes, watch the drama. Otherwise, best to avoid. From beginning to end, the FL's stupidity and irrationality causes problem after problem... after problem. The FL is continuously making the wrong choices for the sake of advancing her career. She doesn't listen to reason, doesn't think how if could affect her and for people close to her. An absolutely unlikable FL character due to her low-brain activity.
Am I seeing this right at ep 17? The cameras are HUGE and can be easily seen because they're not in secret hidden spots. And why wasn't there a camera in the hallway? Who calls their friend on the phone and begins talking and talking without even hearing a Hello from other side? Generally people establish a connection first on the phone before one begins talking non-stop. The idiot Banthao calls Way and without hearing a word from her, he goes on and on about the hidden cameras in the house, not even sure who's on the phone, or if she can hear him. Then when he realizes she's in mortal danger, the idiot Banthao doesn't call the police. Instead, the calls the guard, his friends, the female detective... Those lakorn writers have a problem when they're not smart enough to create a scene that makes sense but is instead completely illogical. For instance, Way answers the phone and then Banthao reveals about the cameras while the villains hear it.
Bua must be in her mid-twenties as she had completed university and was at least a 2/3 year medical student. Thong-on looks about the same age. And they seem to be in love. When they interact, they have the same maturity level. However, Thong-on behaves like a teenager at home. Him and the other medical students behave like young teenagers in class too. And the professor doctors treat them as if they were teenagers. Thong-on and Thong-tae's father and mothers treats them like children. Their father hits them with a stick for punishment! Yet Thong-Tae is old enough to be a father himself. This is very illogical.
As I understand it, it was because the explosion system went haywire, and ML needed to keep his hands on the thing…
They all had 5mn to escape and the first group did. There was enough time for the last 3 to escape as well before the 5mn were up. But they stayed to stop the bomb instead. But I found it ridiculous that, although there wasn't enough space to put a wheelchair in the elevator, they could easily have all fit if they just carried his disabled father inside!
A female casually walks into the offices of a large company and asks to see the FL who's not-yet employee but on probation for a personal matter. And the FL just casually leaves her work desk to talk to this unknown woman. After the female starts discussing the boyfriend, one would think the FL would move to a different location to continue the talk, but no. And then, the FL, who is being watched and judged constantly for her performance starts to loudly argue with that woman over her boyfriend while seen and heard by everyone in the office and beyond.
In the US, no one casually walks into a company's large office to talk to a worker during office hours. No even family members. That would not be permitted in a large company setting. In a strict Chinese workplace, even less permitted; she would be stopped at the reception. And it seems that this company is rather strict.
So the scene showing this women argue in front of everyone is absolutely stupid.
Besides, why couldn't the woman wait until the FL finishes working first to approach her? She didn't have to go in the middle of her workplace in the middle of a workday.
But sometimes, writers add some absurd and completely unbelievable scenes that make no sense. And that annoys me. Because adding these stupid scenes to an already hard to believe general story is too much.
For instance, the FL begins working in a very high end jewelry store where the female employees are all wearing the same clothes, shoes and hair style that are strictly enforced and no personal jewelry. I doubt very much that they would allow a new employee to wear a big and really noticeable colorful brooch on her blouse. The writers just added this scene so that a rich customer wants to take it from her.
So they protest in the mall and are allowed to bring a bunch of things that can be used as weapons?
Then, one throws a metal bucket at the FL, but the ML gets injured, bleeding and it's just ok? The worker doesn't get arrested? That doesn't make sense.
They're supposed to drink together to show that they respect each other and work together. Even when the person says no thank you or no, no more, they 'force' them to continue. Women can definitively not drink as much as men without getting drunk and it's very disrespectful. There are so many reasons why a person should not drink, such as medication, allergies, or even for the simple fact of getting drunk. But they continue to badger them so they drink and drink more.
That aspect of Asian culture really disgusts me.
Another thing that upsets me is that when characters have a set back, a problem, or are sad, mad.... they immediately go to drinking and most of the time get very drunk. It looks disgusting and leads to problems, such as women getting raped, beaten.... Alcohol is not a remedy for problems in life and won't solve anything.
Too many accidental slips/falls that lead to men/women to touch/embrace or kiss.
Too many people/noble women with little or no protection walking in the forest and getting attacked, in daytime or nighttime.
Too many bandits/robbers everywhere.
Too many magic spells.
Too many poisonings.
Too many accidents/people hurt.
Too many bad guys working together or separately.
Too many absurd inconsistencies.
Too many scenes that don't make sense based on the previous scenes.
The plot is great and it's an interesting story. Some actors are awesome. I'll keep watching, but all these too manys may be just prove too much to continue, unless the story captivates me!
But I don't understand why the writer didn't give the FL a strong consistency; instead he:
- Changed the FL's abilities to make her so weak. At the beginning, she grew into a strong woman. She was able to shoot guns perfectly and she was physically and mentally very strong. Then, a couple of episodes later, she turned into this weak woman constantly in need of protection. At some point, the bad gay lost a gun during a fight, but instead of grabbing the gun to protect the ML, she just stayed there, still. Towards the end, she was constantly overpowered and needed to be saved over and over.
- Didn't keep the FL emotionally strong. The FL, with her adoptive father had years to prepare her and plan for 1974, when the will be opened. But she became so emotionally fragile later and constantly kept giving hints to that she could be Chompoo.
There was already suspicion that she may still be alive. But she kept talking about her father the general too often as if a stranger would do so. She also played violin like Chompoo. What is the likelihood that in a small poor village, within a close area of the property, there's be a girl playing violin; the same song too! The general was a stranger to her, supposedly, but she cried for him over and over and prayed for him all the time in their house. That is a complete giveaway. The FL moved into a house, knowing that she is spied on, but she writes a diary where she tells it all and anyone could find it in her room!
And I don't like the fact that the writer:
- Had Krut killed at the end. He had a bad childhood, but later changed and protected and loved the FL. Sure, he committed a crime to avenge his father and killed a very evil criminal, but he could have stayed alive and have a productive life after only a few years in jail I was very sad to see him die.
- Had the bad guy Han and his gang escape over and over. They were beatings, shootings and stabbings, but that bad guy escaped every single time. I would understand that it happens once, twice, or maybe even three times. But it happened about 9/10 times! That the bad guy could outrun the good guys so many times is ridiculous.
It's only in the rich countries that people worship their domestic animals and some even consider their pet dog as 'my son". In the US, it's becoming common to see dogs or cats in special strollers, just like babies!
So, an animal death is rather sad in Thailand, but in rural areas, it's not a big deal.
Banthao loved her for years but never said or did anything about it; why wouldn't he since she didn't have a boyfriend for years? They make it seem like the FL loved him too but, because Banthao didn't make any move, neither did she.
So, while she is supposedly loving Banthao all this time, she just meets someone else and marries the new guy within weeks. This, without knowing her new husband well. One would think that Banthao would at least react and try to stop her, be desperate, tell her that he loves her... But nothing happens and she marries the bad guy ML.
And at the end, weeks after the death of her husband and all this drama, she is back to loving Banthao. She sure got over her husband fast!
Esther is cute and if you google her to see images, sometimes, she's very pretty when she has good make up on. I think that she's great for the girl next door role, a FL's best and supporting friend, with whom a guy falls in love after he knows her great personality and good heart.
Green is very beautiful, no matter what picture you look at. She's supermodel like. Very gorgeous and a guy would fall for her right away.
Because this lakorn is much centered on Chalai being plain and Rotsinee beautiful, the director should have reversed their roles!
The thing I dislike about it is that a lot of scenes are in the dark. Sometimes completely dark with occasional glimpses of the silhouettes moving, or just a view of a face, but we can't see what's happening at all. Police interrogations in a completely dark room at the station ? Would never happen in real life.
By doing so, they create bad/dangerous situations in the future because the ML or FL are unaware of what's going on.
In this drama, the FL is completely unaware that one of her older trusted confidants is actually a murderer. Had she known the truth before, she would have been more careful.
I can't believe she is the FL's friend. The last thing I'd want is a friend like her.
NON-STOP MISUNDERSTANDINGS between the FL and the ML. It gets old very fast.
If you like that, then yes, watch the drama. Otherwise, best to avoid.
From beginning to end, the FL's stupidity and irrationality causes problem after problem... after problem.
The FL is continuously making the wrong choices for the sake of advancing her career. She doesn't listen to reason, doesn't think how if could affect her and for people close to her.
An absolutely unlikable FL character due to her low-brain activity.
The cameras are HUGE and can be easily seen because they're not in secret hidden spots. And why wasn't there a camera in the hallway?
Who calls their friend on the phone and begins talking and talking without even hearing a Hello from other side? Generally people establish a connection first on the phone before one begins talking non-stop.
The idiot Banthao calls Way and without hearing a word from her, he goes on and on about the hidden cameras in the house, not even sure who's on the phone, or if she can hear him.
Then when he realizes she's in mortal danger, the idiot Banthao doesn't call the police. Instead, the calls the guard, his friends, the female detective...
Those lakorn writers have a problem when they're not smart enough to create a scene that makes sense but is instead completely illogical. For instance, Way answers the phone and then Banthao reveals about the cameras while the villains hear it.
Thong-on looks about the same age. And they seem to be in love. When they interact, they have the same maturity level.
However, Thong-on behaves like a teenager at home.
Him and the other medical students behave like young teenagers in class too. And the professor doctors treat them as if they were teenagers.
Thong-on and Thong-tae's father and mothers treats them like children. Their father hits them with a stick for punishment! Yet Thong-Tae is old enough to be a father himself.
This is very illogical.
But I found it ridiculous that, although there wasn't enough space to put a wheelchair in the elevator, they could easily have all fit if they just carried his disabled father inside!