jeon changha and ji gun definitely have the new relationship awkwardness down. i was giggling like a fool thru most of the episode.
i don’t think this bl will win any awards any time soon, but i still find it entertaining. i also like looking at changha’s face 💀 i think he’s cute and i like his little pouts so that certainly helps keep me watching lol, but yes in comparison to semantic error, the story, acting, cinematography in this is mid, but in comparison to the average like « tinted with you » kbl, first love again is good enough imo
i burst out in tears mid donut bcs of how good this drama is. i seriously don’t know how i will move on, especially with seoham starting military service today (?)
I agree, but at the same time there was really no telling that Semantic Error would blow up like this, to be honest…
yes, but i think more ppl tuned in than otherwise would bcs it’s a popular webtoon and book too. like from day 1 it was subbed lightening quick on viki bcs it had more of an existing fanbase i think lol
i feel like this series would do better if it weren’t airing the same time as semantic error lol. it’s honestly not bad so far, but it just can’t compete with semantic error’s popularity
You really articulated that well. I had a "lightbulb" moment when you mentioned why erasing the security footage…
no, i agree to an extent. i definitely acknowledge the role media plays in socialisation, especially given my educational background , but i don’t think lian calling kuea an annabelle doll is a good example of dehumanization. that’s why i felt like it was overanalysing. i’m hesistant bcs i don’t want to water down concepts bcs then they lose their meaning and significance (?) if that makes sense, which has real world consequences too
You really articulated that well. I had a "lightbulb" moment when you mentioned why erasing the security footage…
tbh i am hesitating to call his albeit mean comment an example of dehumanizing a partner. i feel like that would cross into overanalysing territory. it was flippant remark or insult for sure tho. i just think with any body of work if you try hard enough you can make it problematic and start using complex and serious concepts like dehumanization, gaslighting etc. to describe it, not to say this series isn’t problematic in its own right.
i just mean for example, i could say that kuea used his position of power to threaten his housekeeper/nanny’s job so he could keep his secret. i could talk about wealth disparity etc., but when you start going too deep into work that’s not meant to be that deep it’s kinda hard to enjoy anything lol
this show really slowly and steadily made its way up to being one of my favourites. when it first started, i wasn’t that impressed with the story itself (i gave it a 7/10), but by this episode the show has become one of the best thai series i’ve ever seen. i’m actually enjoying the angst so much. i love actually feeling something for these characters and their relationships.
also am i the only one who never thought black/gram would be a thing?? gram always lit up when he saw eugene, so i guessed from pretty earlier on that the confession note was for her, and that the “g” on those figurines stood for gene. but who knows, maybe there will be a last minute plot twist lol. i will say eugene and gram’s scene was where i started to really empathise with black. in that moment, i really felt like he had no one but his brother, and i understood a bit better why he was being such an ass
i’ve gotten so good at ignoring the second couple’s existence that i forget they’re there and am shook when other ppl talk about them lol. i have to agree with many of the commenters. they come across abusive so far. at best, they’re manipulating each other? yi thru being comandeering and diao with fake tears? at worst, diao’s genuinely terrified of yi.the worst case scenario is what the show is portraying right now, intentionally or not.
the main couple is obviously problematic too. i mean lying about your entire personality, interests, schooling, etc is not exactly the gold standard for a healthy non-manipulative honest relationship, and lian’s controlling, manipulative, and acts more like a dad than a partner sometimes, but this couple still doesn’t make me feel too uncomfortable. maybe bcs despite the major red flags, i can still see how the relationship can progress to a better place, and it’s fiction after all. i guess i have a “problematic threshold,” and they havent crossed it yet for me.
regarding the kiss, i feel like i’m more disturbed that lian went to such lengths to hide it than that it happened. it’s definitely non consensual, which is wrong as we all know, but bcs it happened only once, didn’t progress past a kiss, and they’re in a relationship, i was willing to look past it on the show (not irl), but hiding that it happened skeeves me out a lot. makes it seem even more non consensual.
im not even sure what im confused about haha, but ill try to explain myself.
lian clearly loves kuea, but he said he didn't in episode 1. im assuming he was saying he doesnt love this fake goodie goodie persona that kuea has created for lian, but im still confused on why he would say "i don't love you" then be surprised kuea doesn't want to marry him. like what his tactic? force kuea to be himself by being mean? then why flirt with kuea at the club and kiss him in the car? did he do that because he felt bad about how distraught and lovelorn kuea was and so kinda deviated from his original "be mean tactic"? if that's the case, why go as far as erasing the cctv footage so kuea wouldn't know the kiss happened?
also kuea in episode 3 goes to the club to confront lian and figure out if he was really the one who took him home last night, but then lian wasn't there so kuea just performs a song and forgets about figuring out if lian was the guy from last night?
idk maybe i need to rewatch the episodes. it's possible I'm forgetting some things that would make everything more clear.
the episode was super confusing to me. i can't really understand lian's thought process. even kuea is confusing me a bit. hopefully, things clear up in the next few episodes
i don’t think this bl will win any awards any time soon, but i still find it entertaining. i also like looking at changha’s face 💀 i think he’s cute and i like his little pouts so that certainly helps keep me watching lol, but yes in comparison to semantic error, the story, acting, cinematography in this is mid, but in comparison to the average like « tinted with you » kbl, first love again is good enough imo
, but i don’t think lian calling kuea an annabelle doll is a good example of dehumanization. that’s why i felt like it was overanalysing. i’m hesistant bcs i don’t want to water down concepts bcs then they lose their meaning and significance (?) if that makes sense, which has real world consequences too
i just mean for example, i could say that kuea used his position of power to threaten his housekeeper/nanny’s job so he could keep his secret. i could talk about wealth disparity etc., but when you start going too deep into work that’s not meant to be that deep it’s kinda hard to enjoy anything lol
also am i the only one who never thought black/gram would be a thing?? gram always lit up when he saw eugene, so i guessed from pretty earlier on that the confession note was for her, and that the “g” on those figurines stood for gene. but who knows, maybe there will be a last minute plot twist lol. i will say eugene and gram’s scene was where i started to really empathise with black. in that moment, i really felt like he had no one but his brother, and i understood a bit better why he was being such an ass
the main couple is obviously problematic too. i mean lying about your entire personality, interests, schooling, etc is not exactly the gold standard for a healthy non-manipulative honest relationship, and lian’s controlling, manipulative, and acts more like a dad than a partner sometimes, but this couple still doesn’t make me feel too uncomfortable. maybe bcs despite the major red flags, i can still see how the relationship can progress to a better place, and it’s fiction after all. i guess i have a “problematic threshold,” and they havent crossed it yet for me.
regarding the kiss, i feel like i’m more disturbed that lian went to such lengths to hide it than that it happened. it’s definitely non consensual, which is wrong as we all know, but bcs it happened only once, didn’t progress past a kiss, and they’re in a relationship, i was willing to look past it on the show (not irl), but hiding that it happened skeeves me out a lot. makes it seem even more non consensual.
lian clearly loves kuea, but he said he didn't in episode 1. im assuming he was saying he doesnt love this fake goodie goodie persona that kuea has created for lian, but im still confused on why he would say "i don't love you" then be surprised kuea doesn't want to marry him. like what his tactic? force kuea to be himself by being mean? then why flirt with kuea at the club and kiss him in the car? did he do that because he felt bad about how distraught and lovelorn kuea was and so kinda deviated from his original "be mean tactic"? if that's the case, why go as far as erasing the cctv footage so kuea wouldn't know the kiss happened?
also kuea in episode 3 goes to the club to confront lian and figure out if he was really the one who took him home last night, but then lian wasn't there so kuea just performs a song and forgets about figuring out if lian was the guy from last night?
idk maybe i need to rewatch the episodes. it's possible I'm forgetting some things that would make everything more clear.