AthenaTheStorierX

There's actually been a few that get through. From my understanding, the censorship applies to content that companies air in China. Some indie productions get around it by never going to air - choosing to premier on international platforms like GagaOOlala instead (where this one is also slotted to premier as well).

There's actually been a few that get through. From my understanding, the censorship applies to content that companies air in China. Some indie productions get around it by never going to air - choosing to premier on international platforms like GagaOOlala instead (where this one is also slotted to premier as well).

There's actually been a few that get through. From my understanding, the censorship applies to content that companies air in China. Some indie productions get around it by never going to air - choosing to premier on international platforms like GagaOOlala instead (where this one is also slotted to premier as well).

Alternatively, it could be like Lovely Writer. International release with english subs were on a week delay.

Does anyone know if there is an official international release platform? Or one I can use with VPN? I really want to support officially.

Lol, i saw the same cut but couldn’t find anything else to support the claim. Still sounds like an interesting series though.

As for the ending decisions, and what I came up with from reading between the lines:

Ki Jin cancelled the show because he wanted to prove that he could get there on his own (it was a point that was brought up in almost all his conversations since the very beginning, and emphasized in that last conversation with "The Witch" - that he didn't need Yi Bin to step in, because he would have gotten there on his own). It's also why he didn't go to New York (Yi Bin commented at the end that he was in NY alone, something that surprised Yeong Woo; plus, there was a crumpled plane ticket in the trash bin when Yi Bin left for New York - but Yi Bin's was still in his hand, and he looked saddened to see it there).

As for why he didn't tell Yeong Woo, and just ghosted him? I'm not sure. Probably because he saw that Yeong Woo didn't show enthusiasm towards modelling, and just commented about how he needed to work harder. Yeong Woo even said it himself, when talking to his dad, he didnt feel like he was following a dream, but rather following Ki Jin. But dreams was a major conversation at the start of their relationship - Yeong Woo wanted one, and Ki Jin wanted to help him find it. But he could only do that when he stopped following Ki Jin. I ultimately disagree with this action, but eh, it seems in character.

I took it as a gimme that Yeong Woo was still modelling (and doing deliveries between gigs). The scouts at one of his practices just about guaranteed that he'd have a job because he had such great potential. And Yeong Woo obviously didn't hold any malice towards Ki Jin for pursuing his dream (it's what he's always admired about him after all), so perhaps he believed in either 1) modelling leading him back to Ki Jin; or 2.) Ki Jin's belief in him.

I wish they had flushed it out more through some more screentime, a less complex/more balanced script, or fewer flashbacks montages. Or added flashbacks in that last episode to those skipped moments in which decisions were made. But ultimately, there are conclusions that can be made about the end if you read between the lines.

That's not to say it isn't flawed though.

There were several elements that kept reoccurring, thus implying significance - but were never explained, elaborated on, or answered. I believe this was mainly because they tried to develop Yeong Woo's background too much for what the screentime allowed. These things included Yeong Woo & Yi Bin's past, Yeong Woo's ring (which struck me as significant), and Yeong Woo's Mother situation - which I believe all might be connected based on the crying flashback. As for an explanation - no clue. I'm more than willing to theorize though

I'm seeing a lot of confusion in the comments (justifiably so). This was definitely not a plot-driven story - but rather a character-driven one. The focus was on the characters, their development, and their interactions (the reason why such big events like getting the gigs were glossed over so quickly). In fact, I'd go as far as to say that if you don't understand the characters, you will not understand the ending. Because there aren't really any scenes, especially in the last half, in which they announce their decisions. We always have a small time skip over these moments. But everything they do is very in line with their characters. What you have to do is pay attention to their conversations - especially reoccurring ones. Their conversations reveal their values and worries - and these insights are CRUCIAL to understanding their decisions, because they are the thoughts that lead up to those decisions. (I'll go more into this below).

I definitely agree - there was alot that was left unanswered (Yeong Woo & Yi Bin's past, the ring (which did indeed seem significant), and Yeong Woo's Mother situation - which I believe all might be connected based on the crying flashback).

And then other stuff required potentially excessive reading-between-the-lines. For instance, Ki Jin cancelled the show because he wanted to prove that he could get there on his own (it was a point that was brought up in his conversations since the very beginning, and emphasized in that last conversation with "The Witch" - that he didn't need Yi Bin to step in, because he would have gotten there on his own). It's also why he didn't go to New York (Yi Bin commented at the end that he was in NY alone, something that surprised Yeong Woo; plus, there was a crumpled plane ticket in the trash bin when Yi Bin left for New York - but Yi Bin's was still in his hand, and he looked saddened to see it there).

As for why he didn't tell Yeong Woo, and just ghosted him? I'm not sure. Probably because he saw that Yeong Woo didn't show enthusiasm towards modelling, and just commented about how he needed to work harder. Yeong Woo even said it himself, when talking to his dad, he didnt feel like he was following a dream, but rather following Ki Jin. But dreams was a major conversation at the start of their relationship - Yeong Woo wanted one, and Ki Jin wanted to help him find it. But he could only do that when he stopped following Ki Jin.

I took it as a gimme that Yeong Woo was still modelling (and doing deliveries between gigs). The scouts at one of his practices just about guaranteed that he'd have a job because he had such great potential. And Yeong Woo obviously didn't hold any malice towards Ki Jin for pursuing his dream (it's what he's always admired about him after all), so perhaps he believed in either 1) modelling leading him back to Ki Jin; or 2.) A tribute to Ki Jin's belief in him.

I wish they had flushed it out more through some more screentime, a less complex/more balanced script, or fewer flashbacks. But ultimately, there are conclusions that can be made about the end if you read between the lines.

Yes, its every week

Does anyone know the actor playing Kavin and the actress playing Nampeung? They look familiar but i can’t seem to place them.

I tried going by the cast cards in the intro, but my newbie eyes cant read that font.

Definitely strange to me. The first couple episode really present them as the mains, but the show doesn’t follow through. I feel mislead.

I was wondering if anyone else had noticed this heart problem trend starting to occur. And I think I remember coming across one more (i'll update if i can remember it). I seriously hope they have happy endings - though it does seem 50/50 (or worse) based on teasers.

Yea it seemed his motivation was more getting answers, than actual preservation. As long as he got his answers, he didn't really care about getting any artifacts out - it was the rest of the team that always explored that idea.

I picked this up when I was in the mood for action. Going in - I only knew enough to know that this was the first series installment to a larger franchise. I was intrigued by Qiling and Wu Xie, but turned off by Pangzi, the uncle, High Jr, and the numerous questions throughout that NEVER get answered. Thankfully, since I'm very character-driven, not plot-driven, I didn't mind going through franchise spoilers for the various series and books. I remember being flabbergasted at learning Pangzi is one of the major 3 - this version of the character was an absolute turn-off. I'm looking forward to the sequels (especially UN, i've been hearing that that one's a favorite).

I'm so sad we're not getting a branch-off series of how Huaisang finds out EVERYTHING and sets everything else in motion. Perhaps even a bit of him behind-the-scenes during the events of the Untamed.

But then again, that might be too dark for China's current tv censorship. Because the things Huaisang would have to do - and there's no one for the director's to pin his actions on (like they pinned some of WWX's novel actions on JGY).

Yes and No. Some of the scenes are supported by the novel to greater or less extent. But the chronology seems to be quite off. Plus, i believe Nie Zhonghui is supposed to be Huisang's confidant according to one of MXTX's interviews - and they made it look like it here as well, but then they killed him off?

But I still think it's a good watch, because it does help show some of that brotherly love and the moment that Huisang changes really well.

The first flashback is what Guangyao was playing in their hall. And then the second flashback, when they were at the the sword sacrifice hall, was when Huaisang was playing the song that Guangyao had specifically taught him (as Guangyao had said he would in one of the other flashback scenes).

Essentially, Guangyao had stitched the original song with notes of poison, and when Huaisang saw the sheet music flapping on the floor, he realized that the notes that Guangyao had been playing (and that Guangyao had taught him) didn't all match what was in the sheet music. Huaisang is extremely intelligent, especially with the arts - so those small difference stood out to him. Furthermore, it was when Huaisang had gotten further into the song, where there were multiple changes, that MingJui's calmness turned menacing again.

Honestly, i wonder if the sheet music in Ming Jiu's room was a sign that Ming Jiu had started to suspect the song wasnt what it appeared to be - but didn't know what to look for.

Perhaps they only watched Part 1 and then dipped out?

Or maybe they're unsatisfied with them technically not being out again yet, even after 4 years. Some people wanted some big fight with an overall and clear victory towards PatxPran (like what they do in many Western shows, and a select few Eastern ones). And some people think that secretly dating is never okay, no matter the situation.

I personally am very satisfied, happy, and completely understand the ending being how it is. But I understand that some people, for various reasons, may not like these particular aspects of the story.