Since it's airing internationally and therefore escaped the nasty censorship, I hope it gets the popularity it…
I think a lot of productions are seeing the benefits of gagaoolala in recent years (where other chinese BLs have premiered, as well as many other countries). Even productions from countries that don't have them restricted (like Thailand) are putting quality shows on there.
I came here after watching and I have to say I completely agree!
There's actually been a few that get through. From my understanding, the censorship applies to content that companies air in China. Some indie productions get around it by never going to air - choosing to premier on international platforms like GagaOOlala instead (where this one is also slotted to premier as well).
I just really wish.. That this drama is broadcasted.. Wholly.. Without getting into commotion from m China side🤞🤞....…
It's tricky. Generally BLs that dont pursue traditional funding and never go to traditional air (like the other ones on GagaOOlala) don't see much trouble. On the other hand, this one seems to be getting quite a bit of attention compared to the others.... So 🤞.
actually just checked out a few of the Director's previous works and hopefully he's improved.. if his past work…
Well that's how they get through the censorship. Because they don't go to air, they don't get as many, if any, sponsors because they wouldn't see the investment pay off as easily. So the productions that do get through premier as indie productions on international platforms like GagaOOlala.
is this going to be a romance or just platonic relationship? because i'm afraid i'm seeing china there and i couldn't…
There's actually been a few legit BLs that get through. From my understanding, the censorship applies to content that companies air in China. Some indie productions get around it by never going to air - choosing to premier on international platforms like GagaOOlala instead (where this one is also slotted to premier as well).
Like i don't really get it. I gave up on anything CH. Bcs of these restrictions , And Now... this? Alas, it still…
There's actually been a few that get through. From my understanding, the censorship applies to content that companies air in China. Some indie productions get around it by never going to air - choosing to premier on international platforms like GagaOOlala instead (where this one is also slotted to premier as well).
this is a CHINESE drama??? Am I reading that right??
There's actually been a few that get through. From my understanding, the censorship applies to content that companies air in China. Some indie productions get around it by never going to air - choosing to premier on international platforms like GagaOOlala instead (where this one is also slotted to premier as well).
China and BL ??? from the trailer it's not bromance...... hope they don't ban it. 😶😶😶😶
There's actually been a few that get through. From my understanding, the censorship applies to content that companies air in China. Some indie productions get around it by never going to air - choosing to premier on international platforms like GagaOOlala instead (where this one is also slotted to premier as well).
How is this a CHINESE BL drama after all that Addicted fuss?
There's actually been a few that get through. From my understanding, the censorship applies to content that companies air in China. Some indie productions get around it by never going to air - choosing to premier on international platforms like GagaOOlala instead (where this one is also slotted to premier as well).
I'm seeing a lot of confusion in the comments (justifiably so). This was definitely not a plot-driven story -…
As for the ending decisions, and what I came up with from reading between the lines:
Ki Jin cancelled the show because he wanted to prove that he could get there on his own (it was a point that was brought up in almost all his conversations since the very beginning, and emphasized in that last conversation with "The Witch" - that he didn't need Yi Bin to step in, because he would have gotten there on his own). It's also why he didn't go to New York (Yi Bin commented at the end that he was in NY alone, something that surprised Yeong Woo; plus, there was a crumpled plane ticket in the trash bin when Yi Bin left for New York - but Yi Bin's was still in his hand, and he looked saddened to see it there).
As for why he didn't tell Yeong Woo, and just ghosted him? I'm not sure. Probably because he saw that Yeong Woo didn't show enthusiasm towards modelling, and just commented about how he needed to work harder. Yeong Woo even said it himself, when talking to his dad, he didnt feel like he was following a dream, but rather following Ki Jin. But dreams was a major conversation at the start of their relationship - Yeong Woo wanted one, and Ki Jin wanted to help him find it. But he could only do that when he stopped following Ki Jin. I ultimately disagree with this action, but eh, it seems in character.
I took it as a gimme that Yeong Woo was still modelling (and doing deliveries between gigs). The scouts at one of his practices just about guaranteed that he'd have a job because he had such great potential. And Yeong Woo obviously didn't hold any malice towards Ki Jin for pursuing his dream (it's what he's always admired about him after all), so perhaps he believed in either 1) modelling leading him back to Ki Jin; or 2.) Ki Jin's belief in him.
I wish they had flushed it out more through some more screentime, a less complex/more balanced script, or fewer flashbacks montages. Or added flashbacks in that last episode to those skipped moments in which decisions were made. But ultimately, there are conclusions that can be made about the end if you read between the lines.
I'm seeing a lot of confusion in the comments (justifiably so). This was definitely not a plot-driven story -…
That's not to say it isn't flawed though.
There were several elements that kept reoccurring, thus implying significance - but were never explained, elaborated on, or answered. I believe this was mainly because they tried to develop Yeong Woo's background too much for what the screentime allowed. These things included Yeong Woo & Yi Bin's past, Yeong Woo's ring (which struck me as significant), and Yeong Woo's Mother situation - which I believe all might be connected based on the crying flashback. As for an explanation - no clue. I'm more than willing to theorize though
I'm seeing a lot of confusion in the comments (justifiably so). This was definitely not a plot-driven story - but rather a character-driven one. The focus was on the characters, their development, and their interactions (the reason why such big events like getting the gigs were glossed over so quickly). In fact, I'd go as far as to say that if you don't understand the characters, you will not understand the ending. Because there aren't really any scenes, especially in the last half, in which they announce their decisions. We always have a small time skip over these moments. But everything they do is very in line with their characters. What you have to do is pay attention to their conversations - especially reoccurring ones. Their conversations reveal their values and worries - and these insights are CRUCIAL to understanding their decisions, because they are the thoughts that lead up to those decisions. (I'll go more into this below).
it's pretty enjoyable for a simple watch to fill in time! but seriously they need to explain some things that…
I definitely agree - there was alot that was left unanswered (Yeong Woo & Yi Bin's past, the ring (which did indeed seem significant), and Yeong Woo's Mother situation - which I believe all might be connected based on the crying flashback).
And then other stuff required potentially excessive reading-between-the-lines. For instance, Ki Jin cancelled the show because he wanted to prove that he could get there on his own (it was a point that was brought up in his conversations since the very beginning, and emphasized in that last conversation with "The Witch" - that he didn't need Yi Bin to step in, because he would have gotten there on his own). It's also why he didn't go to New York (Yi Bin commented at the end that he was in NY alone, something that surprised Yeong Woo; plus, there was a crumpled plane ticket in the trash bin when Yi Bin left for New York - but Yi Bin's was still in his hand, and he looked saddened to see it there).
As for why he didn't tell Yeong Woo, and just ghosted him? I'm not sure. Probably because he saw that Yeong Woo didn't show enthusiasm towards modelling, and just commented about how he needed to work harder. Yeong Woo even said it himself, when talking to his dad, he didnt feel like he was following a dream, but rather following Ki Jin. But dreams was a major conversation at the start of their relationship - Yeong Woo wanted one, and Ki Jin wanted to help him find it. But he could only do that when he stopped following Ki Jin.
I took it as a gimme that Yeong Woo was still modelling (and doing deliveries between gigs). The scouts at one of his practices just about guaranteed that he'd have a job because he had such great potential. And Yeong Woo obviously didn't hold any malice towards Ki Jin for pursuing his dream (it's what he's always admired about him after all), so perhaps he believed in either 1) modelling leading him back to Ki Jin; or 2.) A tribute to Ki Jin's belief in him.
I wish they had flushed it out more through some more screentime, a less complex/more balanced script, or fewer flashbacks. But ultimately, there are conclusions that can be made about the end if you read between the lines.
a tale of thousand stars, heart by heart and oh my sunshine night THE HOLY TRINITY
I was wondering if anyone else had noticed this heart problem trend starting to occur. And I think I remember coming across one more (i'll update if i can remember it). I seriously hope they have happy endings - though it does seem 50/50 (or worse) based on teasers.
Ki Jin cancelled the show because he wanted to prove that he could get there on his own (it was a point that was brought up in almost all his conversations since the very beginning, and emphasized in that last conversation with "The Witch" - that he didn't need Yi Bin to step in, because he would have gotten there on his own). It's also why he didn't go to New York (Yi Bin commented at the end that he was in NY alone, something that surprised Yeong Woo; plus, there was a crumpled plane ticket in the trash bin when Yi Bin left for New York - but Yi Bin's was still in his hand, and he looked saddened to see it there).
As for why he didn't tell Yeong Woo, and just ghosted him? I'm not sure. Probably because he saw that Yeong Woo didn't show enthusiasm towards modelling, and just commented about how he needed to work harder. Yeong Woo even said it himself, when talking to his dad, he didnt feel like he was following a dream, but rather following Ki Jin. But dreams was a major conversation at the start of their relationship - Yeong Woo wanted one, and Ki Jin wanted to help him find it. But he could only do that when he stopped following Ki Jin. I ultimately disagree with this action, but eh, it seems in character.
I took it as a gimme that Yeong Woo was still modelling (and doing deliveries between gigs). The scouts at one of his practices just about guaranteed that he'd have a job because he had such great potential. And Yeong Woo obviously didn't hold any malice towards Ki Jin for pursuing his dream (it's what he's always admired about him after all), so perhaps he believed in either 1) modelling leading him back to Ki Jin; or 2.) Ki Jin's belief in him.
I wish they had flushed it out more through some more screentime, a less complex/more balanced script, or fewer flashbacks montages. Or added flashbacks in that last episode to those skipped moments in which decisions were made. But ultimately, there are conclusions that can be made about the end if you read between the lines.
There were several elements that kept reoccurring, thus implying significance - but were never explained, elaborated on, or answered. I believe this was mainly because they tried to develop Yeong Woo's background too much for what the screentime allowed. These things included Yeong Woo & Yi Bin's past, Yeong Woo's ring (which struck me as significant), and Yeong Woo's Mother situation - which I believe all might be connected based on the crying flashback. As for an explanation - no clue. I'm more than willing to theorize though
And then other stuff required potentially excessive reading-between-the-lines. For instance, Ki Jin cancelled the show because he wanted to prove that he could get there on his own (it was a point that was brought up in his conversations since the very beginning, and emphasized in that last conversation with "The Witch" - that he didn't need Yi Bin to step in, because he would have gotten there on his own). It's also why he didn't go to New York (Yi Bin commented at the end that he was in NY alone, something that surprised Yeong Woo; plus, there was a crumpled plane ticket in the trash bin when Yi Bin left for New York - but Yi Bin's was still in his hand, and he looked saddened to see it there).
As for why he didn't tell Yeong Woo, and just ghosted him? I'm not sure. Probably because he saw that Yeong Woo didn't show enthusiasm towards modelling, and just commented about how he needed to work harder. Yeong Woo even said it himself, when talking to his dad, he didnt feel like he was following a dream, but rather following Ki Jin. But dreams was a major conversation at the start of their relationship - Yeong Woo wanted one, and Ki Jin wanted to help him find it. But he could only do that when he stopped following Ki Jin.
I took it as a gimme that Yeong Woo was still modelling (and doing deliveries between gigs). The scouts at one of his practices just about guaranteed that he'd have a job because he had such great potential. And Yeong Woo obviously didn't hold any malice towards Ki Jin for pursuing his dream (it's what he's always admired about him after all), so perhaps he believed in either 1) modelling leading him back to Ki Jin; or 2.) A tribute to Ki Jin's belief in him.
I wish they had flushed it out more through some more screentime, a less complex/more balanced script, or fewer flashbacks. But ultimately, there are conclusions that can be made about the end if you read between the lines.
I tried going by the cast cards in the intro, but my newbie eyes cant read that font.