There were several elements that kept reoccurring, thus implying significance - but were never explained, elaborated on, or answered. I believe this was mainly because they tried to develop Yeong Woo's background too much for what the screentime allowed. These things included Yeong Woo & Yi Bin's past, Yeong Woo's ring (which struck me as significant), and Yeong Woo's Mother situation - which I believe all might be connected based on the crying flashback. As for an explanation - no clue. I'm more than willing to theorize though
As for the ending decisions, and what I came up with from reading between the lines:
Ki Jin cancelled the show because he wanted to prove that he could get there on his own (it was a point that was brought up in almost all his conversations since the very beginning, and emphasized in that last conversation with "The Witch" - that he didn't need Yi Bin to step in, because he would have gotten there on his own). It's also why he didn't go to New York (Yi Bin commented at the end that he was in NY alone, something that surprised Yeong Woo; plus, there was a crumpled plane ticket in the trash bin when Yi Bin left for New York - but Yi Bin's was still in his hand, and he looked saddened to see it there).
As for why he didn't tell Yeong Woo, and just ghosted him? I'm not sure. Probably because he saw that Yeong Woo didn't show enthusiasm towards modelling, and just commented about how he needed to work harder. Yeong Woo even said it himself, when talking to his dad, he didnt feel like he was following a dream, but rather following Ki Jin. But dreams was a major conversation at the start of their relationship - Yeong Woo wanted one, and Ki Jin wanted to help him find it. But he could only do that when he stopped following Ki Jin. I ultimately disagree with this action, but eh, it seems in character.
I took it as a gimme that Yeong Woo was still modelling (and doing deliveries between gigs). The scouts at one of his practices just about guaranteed that he'd have a job because he had such great potential. And Yeong Woo obviously didn't hold any malice towards Ki Jin for pursuing his dream (it's what he's always admired about him after all), so perhaps he believed in either 1) modelling leading him back to Ki Jin; or 2.) Ki Jin's belief in him.
I wish they had flushed it out more through some more screentime, a less complex/more balanced script, or fewer flashbacks montages. Or added flashbacks in that last episode to those skipped moments in which decisions were made. But ultimately, there are conclusions that can be made about the end if you read between the lines.
What translation are you looking at? I didn't see anything said about a burning house.
But what on earth does that have to do with Dan becoming disillusioned with his police work? It doesn't. He became disillusioned by something long before that - thus why he started painting as UNAR. He didn't have anything to do with burning the house, he was there to paint, so that wouldn't be the source of guilt anyway.
I'm saying he didnt say anything about a burning house when he was crying/confessing here. You're the one assuming that's what he's talking about. But contextually it makes no sense.
I'm not saying Dan isn't hella sus. I'm 100% positive that whatever that confession is about is going to be extremely relevant to the main plot. Either in reference to Tawi, Sean's father, or Black. But it's definitely not about the house burning in episode 2.
My guess is that it’s Dan who killed Sean’s father.
I'm thinking the same. Or at the least helped pin the drug charge to his name. His vague confession certainly seems to imply something like that. And it seems that he's been active as UNAR alot longer than the Black coma situation. And he seems particularly keen on Tawi injustices, just like the gang.
Also, in the original trailer from 2 years ago, it was Dan who beat Black and put him in a coma. But there's been…
We don't know the context of what it was in the trailer. Because Sean was there in that scene. So there would have been no way to deny that it was White and not Black when White comes in. The scene could very well have been after Black was in a coma. Or the pilot trailer was meant to follow along with the book more closely. After all, the series has already contradicted alot of that trailer, as well as added in characters.
Girl don't lie to yourself you know that aint the only feeling that kiss gave you, haha!
Agreed. I didn't get any sensual/sexual vibes from that kiss. It was definitely about confirmation and trust and yearning and throwing caution to the wind.
IDK. Technically fine, but the idea that he's going to challenge our idea of beauty by painting (checks notes)…
For one thing, Gawin doesn't really line up with Thai beauty standards from what I'm reading. Too foreign looking or something like that.
Secondly, he said he wanted to portray beauty in the hurt and disadvantaged, so how he frames the final product (this was just a sketch) will be the deciding factor.
Am I the only one kinda wishing we could hear White say something in Russian again? Like he lived there for so long, why isn't he occasionally letting it slip out while he's trying to remember a word?
When it first started airing they had it available on IQIYI, and I could watch it with standard. But now it seems…
The only notable replacement that I'm aware of is Gameplay was switched out - thus why he wound up in Love With Benefits and other series while things were still uncertain with whether KinnPorsche would get picked up or not. Tong still appears to be listed, so I'm assuming he's still confirmed.
Gosh that was a tune wasn't it. So beautiful for the atmosphere and moment. I would also like to know the name…
Same. But figured I'd share. There's a spotify playlist that someone keeps actively updating. I'd keep an eye there in case they find it in the coming days.
But it's also possible that it was just one of those tunes they produced in studio to be background music, or were something in the creative commons. So who knows if we'd ever find it. Hopefully we do though, it's a gorgeous piece.
Keep an eye on this spotify playlist, they might find it - they've been doing a good job so far. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5dAye4Ca3kHptk1B7537Bj?si=644b2980bbee4434
I'm not saying it's on there, I'm saying to keep checking. They might find it and add it, they seem to be actively seeking out each one.
When it first started airing they had it available on IQIYI, and I could watch it with standard. But now it seems…
Yea well they had to switch companies and reshoot everything (because the old company understandably wouldn't transfer their footage). I think they also had to recast some of the support roles? So the wait is understandable.
I wouldn't say he got bitchy. He was disheartened. He wasn't passed to at all during that game, even though there…
Fair enough. But at the same time, in person you'd also have the context of when they are practicing and training together. It seems like everyone likes Thorn bc he helps them, keeps in mind their strengths, and is really dedicated to the team. But as viewers, that's not a focus point of the plot - so we don't see that as much.
But I probably wouldn't get along with Thorn too well myself anyways. I don't think our vibes would mesh well.
hmm i was wondering, why did Todd go to white/black room in ep 8, im guessing he wanted to say something about…
He only brought up the fact that White hasn't been telling him anything. It really does seem like Todd is Tawi's employee, and put White in there so he could get info. The manufacturing stunt, plus the protest, did major damage to Tawi's reputation and status - so pressure is probably coming down on Todd for not informing Tawi about it, which led to Todd coming to remind White to keep him informed.
I love the way Not Me is making real life allusions. Last week with the working petition QR code. And this week with what appears to be a nod to an actual famous painting (credit for recognizing this goes to a commenter from youtube): https://arthistoryproject.com/artists/alexandre-cabanel/fallen-angel/
There were several elements that kept reoccurring, thus implying significance - but were never explained, elaborated on, or answered. I believe this was mainly because they tried to develop Yeong Woo's background too much for what the screentime allowed. These things included Yeong Woo & Yi Bin's past, Yeong Woo's ring (which struck me as significant), and Yeong Woo's Mother situation - which I believe all might be connected based on the crying flashback. As for an explanation - no clue. I'm more than willing to theorize though
Ki Jin cancelled the show because he wanted to prove that he could get there on his own (it was a point that was brought up in almost all his conversations since the very beginning, and emphasized in that last conversation with "The Witch" - that he didn't need Yi Bin to step in, because he would have gotten there on his own). It's also why he didn't go to New York (Yi Bin commented at the end that he was in NY alone, something that surprised Yeong Woo; plus, there was a crumpled plane ticket in the trash bin when Yi Bin left for New York - but Yi Bin's was still in his hand, and he looked saddened to see it there).
As for why he didn't tell Yeong Woo, and just ghosted him? I'm not sure. Probably because he saw that Yeong Woo didn't show enthusiasm towards modelling, and just commented about how he needed to work harder. Yeong Woo even said it himself, when talking to his dad, he didnt feel like he was following a dream, but rather following Ki Jin. But dreams was a major conversation at the start of their relationship - Yeong Woo wanted one, and Ki Jin wanted to help him find it. But he could only do that when he stopped following Ki Jin. I ultimately disagree with this action, but eh, it seems in character.
I took it as a gimme that Yeong Woo was still modelling (and doing deliveries between gigs). The scouts at one of his practices just about guaranteed that he'd have a job because he had such great potential. And Yeong Woo obviously didn't hold any malice towards Ki Jin for pursuing his dream (it's what he's always admired about him after all), so perhaps he believed in either 1) modelling leading him back to Ki Jin; or 2.) Ki Jin's belief in him.
I wish they had flushed it out more through some more screentime, a less complex/more balanced script, or fewer flashbacks montages. Or added flashbacks in that last episode to those skipped moments in which decisions were made. But ultimately, there are conclusions that can be made about the end if you read between the lines.
I'm saying he didnt say anything about a burning house when he was crying/confessing here. You're the one assuming that's what he's talking about. But contextually it makes no sense.
I'm not saying Dan isn't hella sus. I'm 100% positive that whatever that confession is about is going to be extremely relevant to the main plot. Either in reference to Tawi, Sean's father, or Black. But it's definitely not about the house burning in episode 2.
Secondly, he said he wanted to portray beauty in the hurt and disadvantaged, so how he frames the final product (this was just a sketch) will be the deciding factor.
But it's also possible that it was just one of those tunes they produced in studio to be background music, or were something in the creative commons. So who knows if we'd ever find it. Hopefully we do though, it's a gorgeous piece.
And thank you!
Credit goes to Maryann0 who tracked it down in more recent comments.
But I probably wouldn't get along with Thorn too well myself anyways. I don't think our vibes would mesh well.
Last week with the working petition QR code.
And this week with what appears to be a nod to an actual famous painting (credit for recognizing this goes to a commenter from youtube): https://arthistoryproject.com/artists/alexandre-cabanel/fallen-angel/