People demanding that a subjective award such as 'Best Couple' should be determined by some official arbiter not only look petty, but sound hilarious as hell. Relax guys, it's not as if there is any talent or skill involved for being the best couple. They're not going to introduce themselves saying, "Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you Song Kang/Kim Yoo Jung, 2023's Best Couple Award winner!" in an official setting outside SBS. And if they do, that's just tacky.
This comment just proves how ignorant the international community (in MDL) is about this story, yet it has the…
😂😂 I don't think there's a duty to stop slander against any country, but this issue is driving a lot of misinformation among international fans particularly.
Korean cancel bully culture is the most disgusting on the planet. He and his family was was harassed by internet…
This comment just proves how ignorant the international community (in MDL) is about this story, yet it has the loudest voice.
Give me a single article that states he and his family were harassed by internet bullies. Yes, there were trolls and assholes, but they were in the minority. Essentially the demographics of K-nets showing concern or hating is similar to that of international fans when the news first broke headlines.
Just weed allegations? He was accused of various drug, including ketamine. If you were following, a large talking point was LSK "sniffing" the drugs through a straw... LSK even admitted to it, but stated he did it unknowingly.
I agree he was a great actor and I am still a fan. He was poorly treated and his case was mishandled by the press, prosecution, and police. However, stop blindly blaming people when you don't have the facts and stop creating false narratives. This was about a man who was going into debt because Korea has a really poor handling about press leaks and public trials (exactly how it is depicted in K-dramas). Not only did the blackmailer extort 350 million KRW, but his agency lost approximately 10 billion KRW from penalties for breaching advertisement and filming contracts. Instead of requiring others to pay off his debt, he probably tried to mitigate the debt by suicide.
He was such an established actor, he could have just turned his back on the K industry and moved his entire family…
Comments like this, which is a dime a dozen in MDL at this point, is an embarassing look for international fans. Y'all just have the most surface level information, rely on stereotypes about Korean culture, and then make denigrating comments about Korean society. Dunning Kruger effect at its finest.
People are rightfully protesting LSK's right to privacy and how the case was dealt. No one, who is well informed, however, thinks LSK was absolutely perfect (and I say this as a LSK fan). Don't speak on the wife's account or from her position since she didn't state it. Don't speak from the children's perspective since they didn't state it either. Until they do so, just share your own thoughts.
I feel like at this point, South Korea is just toxic. The entertainment culture is terrible. Why does it take…
Mainstream news in Korea has a habit of coincidentally shifting the attention onto entertainment scandals when political scandals occur. LSK was just a scapegoat.
Too many fake people with their fake ideology coming up with their hate comments please bro grow up just because…
Why are you on a review site and then getting butthurt about people giving critical reviews..? People have various opinions and this site is literally for people to state them. Stop trying to bully people into silence because YOUR favorite people are in it.
What’s going on? What happened this year that everyone are being this way. What happening with all these negative…
You'll find a lot of critical comments in MDL. That's because a lot of us here have watched a lot of dramas or are fans interested in the films, actors, directors, writers, and have a tendency to compare them. After all, this is a review site. For this particular case, people are informing others that the director's filmography is either really good or really bad. I don't think that's necessarily "negative." It's critical and informative. Also, there are a lot of positive comments here too. Perhaps you're only noticing the negative/critical comments?
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you"suicide is an unforgivable…
I agree with you. I've never claimed there was a guaranteed way out for all situations. However, we ought to fight it no matter how difficult it gets, if there is even the slightest hope.
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you"suicide is an unforgivable…
"and holding a metaphorical (literal?) gun to their heads "fixes" them?" Let's not pretend to be coy here, that's not why the gun is used in the drama lol...
"how would you "prevent" yi jae's suicide?" How about keep working part-time jobs and applying for full-time jobs, stop determining your intrinsic value on your financial circumstances, don't determine other people's perspective of you for them without directly communicating with them, and find better things to live for? Even with Yi Jae's circumstances, he's still doing better than 90% of the human population just for living in a first world country. If we include animals and insects, he's in the 0.001%. Why focus on his immediate failures and sufferings and why not think about how he has succeeded?
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you"suicide is an unforgivable…
I don't always mean "selfish" in the manner of it's evil and conceited. I don't know which word can showcase what I mean. For example, if someone has a terminal illness and doesn't want to cause financial burdens onto his family, so he commits suicide to which the family responds with utter devastation because they would have been willing to pay for his bills 10x over even if it meant a slim chance of survival. I'd label that as a "selfish" act too, but it'll match in a more broad sense of the word. I don't think "sacrifice" captures what's happening here either.
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you"suicide is an unforgivable…
Why don't you quote me directly instead of putting words in my mouth? How is "life tends to turn around once you fight..." the same as "fight hard enough, and you will win." There aren't any guarantees in life, and to suggest that would be a narrow view. Again, you're encapsulated by black and white thinking: either suicide is unbearable and completely devastating or (your misinterpretation of what I'm saying) "the suicidal can "turn their life around" with a a few positive habits." The point is, it's neither; it's multifaceted. What this drama shows are the majority of suicide cases that could have been prevented. It is not representing the chronically depressed due to genetic factors and beyond epigenetic factors or other comorbidities that can't be overcome by CBT/medication/etc. It is representing those who have been pressured by society to be of a certain way to be considered valuable enough to live. It's not taking suicide lightly; it's taking it at face-value.
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you"suicide is an unforgivable…
"isn't that a narrow view of suicide?" No, those ARE very often the consequences of suicide, so you should seriously weigh the options if you are contemplating suicide. a narrow view of suicide is this: "suicide is not a choice made out of selfishness. it's a result of overwhelming and unbearable pain that a person may feel they have no other way to escape" It may feel hopeless, unbearable, and unescapable in the moment, and unless the person has issues with neurotransmitters and neuroplasticity beyond epigenetic factors or other comorbidities (which is by far the rarest group), life tends to turn around once you fight it preferably with a mental health professional, enforce better habits, have a perspectival change, escape triggers, and don't give up (which is the majority of cases); a fewer cases may require medication.
"traumatize who? some of us don't have "caring family members and friends." mine would be happy at my funeral" This doesn't represent what happens in the drama; in the drama, there are people who are genuinely suffering due to ML's loss. And please remember it's one of many reasons for why it should deter you... It's not as if I'm claiming that if you are suicidal and you don't have anyone who cherishes you, you should off yourself. That's ridiculous logic.
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you"suicide is an unforgivable…
It perfectly captures suicide; it just doesn't preach a victim mindset that you're used to. Suicide IS selfish and it will traumatize the lives for those who remain, especially ones caused by societal rather than neurochemical ills. I don't understand why that's in quotes. Suicide is also multifaceted. And due to its manifold nature, there are situations where it OUGHT to be highly reconsidered. The fact that you're out here trying to preach a narrow view of suicide whilst claiming its multifaceted is hilarious. People make bad and permanent decisions sometimes. Just because the consequences end up dreadful does not mean they've made the best and inevitable decision, which is what this drama is trying to show.
Japanese aesthetics are really different from Korea, that's just how it is. I appreciate it now, super tired of…
Typical ignorant koreaboo/weaboo. There are many natural Korean actors and many Japanese actors who have done plastic surgery. In fact, some of the best looking Korean actors are natural (Cha Eun Woo, Park Bo Gum, Hyun Bin, Won Bin, Go Su, Song Joong Ki, etc). That you have a K-drama podcast and you're out here pushing this narrative is shameless.
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Relax guys, it's not as if there is any talent or skill involved for being the best couple. They're not going to introduce themselves saying, "Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you Song Kang/Kim Yoo Jung, 2023's Best Couple Award winner!" in an official setting outside SBS. And if they do, that's just tacky.
I don't think there's a duty to stop slander against any country, but this issue is driving a lot of misinformation among international fans particularly.
Give me a single article that states he and his family were harassed by internet bullies. Yes, there were trolls and assholes, but they were in the minority. Essentially the demographics of K-nets showing concern or hating is similar to that of international fans when the news first broke headlines.
Just weed allegations? He was accused of various drug, including ketamine. If you were following, a large talking point was LSK "sniffing" the drugs through a straw... LSK even admitted to it, but stated he did it unknowingly.
I agree he was a great actor and I am still a fan. He was poorly treated and his case was mishandled by the press, prosecution, and police. However, stop blindly blaming people when you don't have the facts and stop creating false narratives. This was about a man who was going into debt because Korea has a really poor handling about press leaks and public trials (exactly how it is depicted in K-dramas). Not only did the blackmailer extort 350 million KRW, but his agency lost approximately 10 billion KRW from penalties for breaching advertisement and filming contracts. Instead of requiring others to pay off his debt, he probably tried to mitigate the debt by suicide.
People are rightfully protesting LSK's right to privacy and how the case was dealt. No one, who is well informed, however, thinks LSK was absolutely perfect (and I say this as a LSK fan). Don't speak on the wife's account or from her position since she didn't state it. Don't speak from the children's perspective since they didn't state it either. Until they do so, just share your own thoughts.
And... you're editing your posts. Is this fun? Get a life.
For this particular case, people are informing others that the director's filmography is either really good or really bad. I don't think that's necessarily "negative." It's critical and informative.
Also, there are a lot of positive comments here too. Perhaps you're only noticing the negative/critical comments?
Let's not pretend to be coy here, that's not why the gun is used in the drama lol...
"how would you "prevent" yi jae's suicide?"
How about keep working part-time jobs and applying for full-time jobs, stop determining your intrinsic value on your financial circumstances, don't determine other people's perspective of you for them without directly communicating with them, and find better things to live for?
Even with Yi Jae's circumstances, he's still doing better than 90% of the human population just for living in a first world country. If we include animals and insects, he's in the 0.001%. Why focus on his immediate failures and sufferings and why not think about how he has succeeded?
How is "life tends to turn around once you fight..." the same as "fight hard enough, and you will win." There aren't any guarantees in life, and to suggest that would be a narrow view.
Again, you're encapsulated by black and white thinking: either suicide is unbearable and completely devastating or (your misinterpretation of what I'm saying) "the suicidal can "turn their life around" with a a few positive habits." The point is, it's neither; it's multifaceted.
What this drama shows are the majority of suicide cases that could have been prevented. It is not representing the chronically depressed due to genetic factors and beyond epigenetic factors or other comorbidities that can't be overcome by CBT/medication/etc. It is representing those who have been pressured by society to be of a certain way to be considered valuable enough to live. It's not taking suicide lightly; it's taking it at face-value.
No, those ARE very often the consequences of suicide, so you should seriously weigh the options if you are contemplating suicide.
a narrow view of suicide is this:
"suicide is not a choice made out of selfishness. it's a result of overwhelming and unbearable pain that a person may feel they have no other way to escape"
It may feel hopeless, unbearable, and unescapable in the moment, and unless the person has issues with neurotransmitters and neuroplasticity beyond epigenetic factors or other comorbidities (which is by far the rarest group), life tends to turn around once you fight it preferably with a mental health professional, enforce better habits, have a perspectival change, escape triggers, and don't give up (which is the majority of cases); a fewer cases may require medication.
"traumatize who? some of us don't have "caring family members and friends." mine would be happy at my funeral"
This doesn't represent what happens in the drama; in the drama, there are people who are genuinely suffering due to ML's loss. And please remember it's one of many reasons for why it should deter you... It's not as if I'm claiming that if you are suicidal and you don't have anyone who cherishes you, you should off yourself. That's ridiculous logic.
Suicide IS selfish and it will traumatize the lives for those who remain, especially ones caused by societal rather than neurochemical ills. I don't understand why that's in quotes.
Suicide is also multifaceted. And due to its manifold nature, there are situations where it OUGHT to be highly reconsidered. The fact that you're out here trying to preach a narrow view of suicide whilst claiming its multifaceted is hilarious.
People make bad and permanent decisions sometimes. Just because the consequences end up dreadful does not mean they've made the best and inevitable decision, which is what this drama is trying to show.