BaldFerrets

It's not my opinion lol. I'm referring you to the episode where the drama answers your questions.

Please revisit the last half of Ep. 4 and end of Ep. 6 because it seems you're not even getting the facts of the show first. Much of your questions are also explained there.
You're not speaking at a deeper level; you're making the story up as you go. You can discount the supernatural account of the show, but at least understand what the supernatural account is before you do so.

And for the last time, even if we go by your "deeper construction" of the drama (that's not supported by the drama btw), the drama did not set ANY of this up in episode 1. You are making tremendous logical leaps and then arguing that there's some hidden genius with the sex scene lmao. Sure you can believe that, but you should at least understand what you're proposing is not evident or obvious and we need to literally think identically to you to think there's some depth with that scene, which suggests, at best, the scene wasn't explained for properly or, at worst, your theory is just wrong.

"I never said that he masturbates at the thought of killing someone..."

Okay, then that just weakens your position as you didn't justify why he's masturbating to his sex life when he's hiding out and just murdered a guy.
I get excited about chocolate, but that's going to be the last thing on my mind if I'm caught up in some real trouble unless I'm sort of chocolate addict. Even if you claim he's doing it out of excitement, that's precisely why I am criticizing the logic of the show... It's attempting to take seriously the guilt Tang is facing, but handwaves his psychology with these ridiculous scenes. It's not deep, it's comically bad.

"stealing his friends tablet then getting away with it was exciting for him. him cheating but then getting away with it was exciting for him the thrill of almost being caught is thrilling for him... the sex scene was supposed to be some sort of distraction for him but as we see the thought of cheating and getting away with it no longer excites him as other thoughts now occupy his brain for example him killing somoene."
There is literally no evidence of him escalating his crimes for "excitement." His first two murders were not crimes of excitement but crimes of passion and were defensive. Maybe by his third murder, you can make a marginal case for it, but Ep 4. dispels this theory quickly when we find out ML is doing this out of some vigilante justice and to justify his previous crimes. You are not reading between the lines, but making up your own story then claiming that I'm not understanding the story you constructed.

The sex scene, as explicitly stated in the drama, was to relieve himself after the pressure and guilt he faced. He "overcomes" his guilt when he finds out his murder was actually justified (by his own logic). Nowhere did we get a HINT of his claiming he's doing this as some daredevil or adrenaline junkie. When he steals from his friend or cheats on his girlfriend, he made those risks knowing it didn't matter EVEN IF he got caught - not that he's excited about the thought of getting caught (which plays a role with his power: the ability to never get caught for his crimes). His friend was a loser and a loner, so if he complained, there is still nothing the friend can do about it (this is reinforced by his friend's reason for why he kept silent even though he knew ML stole the tablet). Additionally, ML was going to break-up with his girlfriend for military service so he didn't care if he got caught having an affair or not (if you are unconvinced, revisit the promise ring scene).

No worries. If anything comes up feel free to share. I'm always willing to debate and discuss

I haven't finished the show (dropped it by Ep 6), but I presume it's his "powers" as explained by the show.
I think the show has made it very apparent that none of the coincidences were sheer coincidences (because at this point, the chances defy all odds).
But supposing you reject the supernatural explanation anyways and he does develop psychopathic tendencies, my point still stands: those goosebumps/tendencies don't show up until the later half of the drama - not in ep. 1 where he's still trying to get a moral footing for his crime and guilt...

"basically you didn’t undertand the meaning of that scene ? that scene wasn’t supposed to be arousing , it showed us that he no longer felt excited about how he cheated on his gf and got away with it but how he slowly started feeling excited at the thought of killing someone. "

LOL. Then why is he jerking off to the thought of having sex with his affair partner and not jerking off to his murder???
The show does not establish him to be a bona-fide psychopath who gets aroused from killing (where is your evidence of this???). At worst, he was someone who lacked a moral compass and was selfish. It's a BIG reach to claim someone who doesn't care about having an affair or steals from others is also a psychopath killer (only in MDL are you going to find such black-and-white thinking lmfao).
Furthermore, "he slowly started feeling excited at the thought of killing someone" is not evident at all. He's still trying to justify his murders by saying he's killing people who are evil. If you're claiming the show wanted him to portray him as some adrenaline junkie serial killer, it sure did a poor job of portraying him as such, and it sure missed the mark by a mile by making him recall his sex life instead of the actual murders (e.g. American Psycho is basically what you're describing, but that film, unlike this drama, portrays ML's craving for power, using sex as a medium, in a coherent manner).

Iirc it's briefly shown in Ep 4&5 and talked about in depth in Ep 6. Essentially the book most likely will implicate Tang of murdering the guy in Ep 4/5. The burning of the book (had to read the ending synopsis) is just his "divine" powers at play, which is also mentioned in Ep 4.

"well, honestly, i don't really see the need to provide any further explanation beyond what i've already said"
Nor are you obligated to lol? I'm saying if you have them, feel free to share, if you don't you don't have to. I am trying to have an in-depth discussion, but if you don't wish to, that's fine too.

Eh, I thought the transition shots were impressive the first time around, but when they kept using it, it became overdone really quickly. Sometimes less is more.

The main character of Crime and Punishment, Raskolnikov, murders someone who he felt deserved to get killed because he felt he was a superior human capable of killing someone without suffering the consequences, i.e. he can physically and mentally get away with murder. But things don't go as planned, he doesn't perform as expected, and he ends up also killing an innocent bystander who witnesses his crime. He does eventually get away with his murders by getting lucky, but the psychological guilt catches him up to him and he ends up turning himself in by the novel's epilogue.

I didn't watch the ending of the drama, but I'd speculate if the drama showed the book, it suggests that Tang was inspired by C&P (just like the drama's plot is a crappier "re-telling" if I'm being generous) and may have "succeeded" in Raskolnikov's project to transcend Good and Evil if he doesn't suffer from guilt after his murders. Or, the opposite may be true - that he no longer thinks he's superior being - if he stops his killing spree.

I can't speak on people who absolutely hate all sex scenes, but as someone not a fan of this particular one, I'll say: Most people don't like campy gore/horror either as it's literally a subgenre of its own. Likewise, most people don't like exploitive fan service in dramas as it makes the drama tacky. Gore/brutal murder scenes done right is fine; sex scenes done right is fine. Sex scenes done simply to arouse the audience is crass.

Edit: You know there's a problem with a drama when its avid supporters are inventing contradictory theories and not even explaining the storyline properly. That just shows how convoluted the writing of this drama was.

Hi, I'm just trying to discuss the scene. It's hard to convey my intentions through writing and I hope I didn't come across as we need to choose 1 interpretation over the other. I was simply questioning your narrative and giving my opinion that the scene would still be ridiculous (e.g. the bank robber analogy). This sort of logic is something I'd expect from a sexploitation film, not a K-drama. However, if you disagree, feel free to offer criticisms against my take or provide an alternative view.

"you could not be more wrong about western dramas. The one thing they get right is showing men as men, not some weirdos with weird diseases and trauma. You are not finding a hot virgin 30 year old CEO in western dramas."
And neither in K-dramas? They may imply virginity at best, but virginity isn't a thematic talking point in K-dramas like the West. I don't know a single drama where a guy is glorified for being a virgin; he just has traits of exclusivity and loyalty. Name a regular Western romance drama/series where the Male Lead has a rich dating history as you're describing because that doesn't exist or it's extremely rare. Furthermore, you rarely have romance series in the West that resembles K-Romance dramas which are basically live-action Disney fairytales. Western series are closer to the Korean melodramas.

"But that fact does not negate the fact that ML's in most Kdramas are shown the way I have already described."
This is not historically true. You can look to romance dramas like Secret Garden, Boys Over Flower, My Love From Another Star, Fated to Love You, It's Okay That's Love, DoTS and nearly 90% of all Saeguk dramas. They all have guys with normal dating history yet they simply choose the "special" (yet ordinary) girl. The girls, typically, also have a reserved dating history. Melos have the typical affairs, love triangles, etc. What you're describing, if accurate, is a recent phenomena - probably stemming from CLOY - and solely in K-romcoms/rom dramas, not other genres.

Yes, he's masturbating by recalling his sex life or "reminiscing," to put it lightly or euphemistically. It's essentially the same thing - that the sex is in his imagination and not part of reality.

"but considering that he was having a vision in the middle of doing it, that was just how i interpreted what the writers were trying to do"
I believe when he's "doing it," as you say, he's still in his imagination. His girlfriend is from his flashback before he did his military service, which still asks the question: Why is he imagining his sex life after just murdering a guy and finding out he was a serial killer? Is this the only way the director can showcase the ML's relief - does this even suggest relief???
Here is an analogy: If a bank robber manages to escape the cops and he finds out from a news anchor that his escape was successful, do you think it's rational if the guy just starts jerking his meat and imagining his sex life to show that he's relieved? There are so many other logical and less jarring ways of showing his emotional state than this nonsense, unless it was to portray he's some sort of sex addict (which I don't think was the intention).

When I say it was not realistic, I'm not complaining that the drama is fictional lol. I'm complaining about how there lacks logical coherence with the writing. If it's for fanservice, then so be it, but if you are going to try to convince us that it's something deeper than that, then I'm still not convinced by your explanation.

Lol wtf do you mean how is this fan service.
Maybe it's the fact that after ML finds out the guy he killed was a serial killer, the following scene right after is ML reminiscing about having sex: the girl is fully nude with a bare ass-shot and a slow panning shot to her breasts, while the guy is fully clothed. Are you dumb? How is this NOT fan service??? Idc about sex scenes, or even worse things than that, if there's some importance or a tinge of meaning to it to the overall story. I am not a fan of fan service, or sex just for the sake of it.

"he was distracting himself and disconnecting from reality."
Unless he is some sort of sex addict, I don't find it realistic to portray him "escaping from reality" after just murdering some guy (whether the guy turned out to be a serial killer or not) by recalling his sexual experience lol. Maybe if he was sexually frustrated or something, that might be convincing. Not when he is scared shitless because an encroaching detective is on his tail after his first murder. Seems more likely for fanservice, like most Netflix shows, than some legitimately deeper reason.

"Even the ML's with dating history is very very rare in kdrama land"
Uh, I don't know what you mean by dating history; if you mean that the drama showcases the ML has multiple partners, then sure? But that is only because you are looking for a unicorn; you are looking for a Rom-com K-drama for a male audience, which is highly unlikely. Even Western dramas don't show men with dating history unless it's to incite a love-triangle or to show the guy is a player.
If you are suggesting that the ML lacks libido then you are plain wrong. The Glory, Alchemy of the Soul, Mr. Queen, Vincenzo, etc. all have men showing libido and initiating and are released recently that I have just seen (and probably a lot more).

"why not go through dramas relased in 2023 to make our case"
Well, if you are claiming this is only happening in 2023, then you are already changing the sample size from the entire history of K-dramas, to then the last 3 years, to now literally 1 year. Even if we accept what you say as hard facts, that's still a niche as aforementioned.

"My point was, we do see the same Kdramas and writers giving FL's more backstory regarding their crushes, dating history and sexual attraction and almost none at all to the ML & instead give them trauma and diseases."
... These are literally dramas intended for a female audience. If the drama focuses on a ML where his dating history is important then probably it will also focus on his dating history, but you are not going to find a lot of shows where the focus is on the guy and his way about finding his fated romance partner; it's typically done the other way around. Going by these standards, I reckon this will be rare even for shows in the West. How about you name some Western dramas/series in 2023 where the ML has a rich dating history?

"That sexual attraction to opposite sex is what I was pointing at, not touching bums."
That's why I pointed to the farmer as a counterexample... I didn't suggest touching bums is what you meant by libido either? I don't know how you got that impression.

As I have said, if the dramas you are watching are catered toward a female-centered audience, then clearly the dynamics are different. In other words, you will have the ordinary, relatable girl pursing the virtuous man. If the man is loyal; that is what a female audience would think is virtuous - not the man with excessive libido sleeping around with strangers (of course, the value system is different in Korea than the West so how they portray the ideal man would also be different).
Literally go through the top ranked dramas on this site and most will show the man showing libido and interest onto the female first and the female innocuously reciprocating the initiative. What you are describing is not the majority of K-dramas, but a specific niche.