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Replying to BaldFerrets Feb 11, 2024
Or... they just preferred not showing sexual content unless it was integral to the show/film. There are a lot…
I can't comment about the other dramas except Behind Your Touch, which is the only one I have seen from your list of examples. Clearly, that drama exemplifies a 'sexual' nature to the FL because she has to touch other people's butts to use her power. Who else has this power in the show? The farmer. Does the writer also portray his libido in the show? Yes. Literally the first thing he does with his powers is to hook up with women.
I don't know what sort of dramas you have been watching, but there are plenty of dramas that indicate men having libido except they are just not as explicit and overt about it as the West. If you are claiming that dramas are doing that for women only but not for men, then perhaps the dramas you are watching are ones with a female writer targeting a female dominated audience or perhaps the writing is simply not good. I, personally, have watched many dramas and rarely have had seen what you described except maybe the few dramas that were clearly catered toward a female audience. There is a literal K-drama trope about the innocent girl converting the playboy.
Furthermore, my concern wasn't about libido but outright sexual acts (self pleasure), which is what your original comment was about. My point is that they are simply unnecessary to show, as they often don't add anything to the scene, story, or immersive experience. In fact, more often, those scenes are uncomfortable for viewers because they are private acts shown publicly which will probably kill the immersive experience than sustain it, as the immersion simply becomes voyeuristic.
Replying to Sav Feb 11, 2024
Ur opinion is highly subjective. Ur saying it like it’s facts… imo this was beyond “mediocre” don’t…
"and ur gonna tell me ur comment has “substance”.. I commented that bc it’s unnecessary to come all the way here to comment this about a show YOU find mediocre. sounds like a you problem."

I said to criticize me with substance; I did not say my comment had substance. Please read properly.
Also, this is sounds like a you problem than my problem because most people don't have issues with critical comments here on this site except you.
Replying to mooc Feb 11, 2024
Surprised that a Kdrama actually shows a ML jerking off fantasizing about a woman.After watching hundreds of kdramas,…
Or... they just preferred not showing sexual content unless it was integral to the show/film.

There are a lot of things people do that aren't necessary to show on screen, such as taking a shit, pissing, bathing, working, reading a book, cooking, etc. It's the West that's weirdly obsessed with sexual acts and titillating shots to the point of redundancy, but I guess Korea is quickly following suit (along with the lackluster, cookie-cutter writing).
Replying to Sav Feb 11, 2024
Ur opinion is highly subjective. Ur saying it like it’s facts… imo this was beyond “mediocre” don’t…
... Yes, this is a site for people to write their opinions. If you don't agree, buzz off or criticize my comment with substance. Don't just tell me to not give my opinion because our opinions differ.
Replying to Turkeyszszsz Jan 6, 2024
Villain arc was irrelevant in the end anyways 😩
I'm not talking about just the villain during the villain arc, but how the abilities of his other characters were fleshed out.
I think it was done way too quickly because all of a sudden, ML uses all his abilities from his previous experiences only when he's the detective.
I wish we'd have glimpses of him incorporating his previous life experiences and some fleshed out episodic moments, so that when it came to the villain arc, it didn't feel so overwhelming and we'd see a clear character development than the one that seemed a bit sporadic and rushed.
On Death's Game Part 2 Jan 6, 2024
Would have been better if this was expanded to at least 12 episodes and he gets to engage with the different lives a little more, as the villain arc felt rushed, but all in all it was a great drama.
Replying to Aramintai Jan 6, 2024
Yea, what was up with that baby doll? It looked like a dropped plot point. It also happened at the same time when…
I rewatched that scene and it's not that he fell on someone else, but it's the aftermath of his girlfriend's and his death (as Lee Do Hyun)
Replying to bakku_shan Jan 2, 2024
Why doesn´t she make the donation secretly? Because she sets example to her fans, her fans also donate like her.…
Just to add to this:
There are many articles out there about celebrities, such as IU, helping out at animal shelters and food banks without publicity and netizens just happened to catch them. It is as if these foreign and newer fans think Korean celebrities are all vain robots farming for likes and the netizens are all evil trolls. It is borderline racist. They are more similar to us than they are different.

Even Dwayne Johnson and Oprah received backlash while fundraising for Maui because they didn't disclose how much they were donating, and people thought they were only fishing for donations. Due to the backlash, they publicized how much they were donating.

Especially for acts that influence others, people dislike hypocrisy and prefer transparency than for people to simply say the right things without transparency: because anyone can say the right things, but most are hypocrites.
Replying to BaldFerrets Jan 2, 2024
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
Yes, it is absurd. This is known as reductio ad absurdum. Your proposal that this is what social scientists do is absurd — that they mistake correlation for causation — and by accepting this, we reach all kinds of unscientific conclusions, such as a justification for eugenics.

Werther Effect is a well documented and talked about phenomena in Korea due to Goo Hara, Cha In Ha, and Sulli's and Choi Jin Sil's suicides temporarily raising the national suicide rate considerably. However, this subject is usually to describe the celebrity's effect on the general suicide rate, not a celebrity's influence on other celebrities. Werther Effect is also considered a short term phenomenon, so it is irrelevant to the discussion. Unless you are trying to propose that Lee Sun Kyun's suicide was influenced by his peers' suicides?

To get an example of this in the social sciences, here is one of many studies. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3547049/
Replying to BaldFerrets Jan 2, 2024
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
I used the the words "tirade" and "unhinged": to suggest your dialogue and emotions were not in control. You nor Maggie are looking for dialogue. You guys simply want to push a narrative.

Yes, Korea's overall suicide rate is higher than the U.S. However, if you look at the demographics for those suicide and look at the age range for which particular group is driving those numbers up, it is the 65+ and over group where the rates are astronomically higher (3-5x). In fact, when you compare the age groups between 10-65, the numbers look pretty average and are nearly identical.

A conspiracy may be true, but it suggests a lack of evidence. This is why they are called "conspiracies" and rumors, and why the mainstream media should and often do avoid them. It is, again, ironic you accused the netizens of spreading malicious lies and rumors, yet here you guys are, spreading conspiracies without evidence. This is precisely what led to Lee Sun Kyun's death.

Anyways, I think your comments alone demonstrate you to be a hypocrite and that you are uninterested in forwarding a discussion. You are identical to the netizens that you describe you are fighting. I will be blocking you. You can spam me on your alts and attempt to create faux echo chambers all you want. I do not care.
Replying to BaldFerrets Jan 2, 2024
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
Regarding "science": Congratulations, using your analogy, we have just justified racism, sexism, and the eugenics movements. That is not how science works, especially in the social sciences because we are not dealing with simple laws of physics and matter. Furthermore, have you never heard of correlation vs. causation? Using your analogy, why are there no Wall Street analysts, Big Law associates, and medical resident students who are committing suicide en-masse and why are people not writing articles that the cause of death for Wall Street, Big Law, and Medicine is its grueling environment? Obviously, there is usually a trade-off for work-life balance in sectors where there are many potential candidates because for every candidate who refuses the conditions there is another who is willing. You should speak to a HR expert, not me.

Regarding "unconfirmed": No, that is not how I described Park Soo Ryun's death. Park Soo Ryun's death was confirmed, but suspicious. When the news first broke out, netizens thought she was murdered, and your conspiracy theory is based on such. The "unconfirmed" is in reference to Jung Chae Yul's death where the cause of death was not revealed but most likely to be suicide due to the circumstances pertaining it.

Regarding Asian agencies and K-pop idols: even if I agree with your views, I do not see how this is relevant to Lee Sun Kyun. Asian agencies act as PR agents and represent the celebrities, while in the West the PR team is behind the celebrity whom they are representing. I do not see how the modes of presentation confirm whether the celebrity is deferring to her agency or the agency is deferring to the celebrity, as these are close-door matters. In the case that an agency has more power over the celebrity, you should support the agencies that do not; I do not see why I should be concerned about this? If you are claiming that this is the reason why celebrities, or K-pop idols, are committing suicide, at least from the information you have provided, it does not sound convincing to me.
Replying to BaldFerrets Jan 1, 2024
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
I did not say Asian media is quiet about things. Please read what I have written again carefully. I have stated that there are different methodologies and the East prefers a privacy of the celebrity's life. However, it was and is still definitely not quiet about the issue.

You possess the right to speak about this even though you lack the ability to understand Hangul while I, who do possess the ability but simply don't live in an Asian country, don't have the right to?

Read the headline again. It does not state 5 suicides, it states 5 suspected suicides. There are only 2 confirmed, 1 unconfirmed, and 2 suspicious deaths. You quite literally resort to conspiracy theories found in Missy bbangs and gossip sites to argue Park Soo Ryun's case of accidental death (which is the consensus of mainstream media) is a suicide cover-up. Just lols.
Replying to BaldFerrets Jan 1, 2024
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
We are trying to have a discussion while you are going on an unhinged, angry rant.

Have you tried looking up the list of Japanese/Chinese/Thai/Irish/French celebrity suicides over the past 25 years? Why are there no search results? Is it because there weren't any cases?

You do not realize how ignorant you sound when you claim that South Korea is not talking about this issue. YTN had a 7 and a half hour live and comprehensive coverage on this issue alone the day after it broke out. When has the West have even a 2 hour+ coverage for a celebrity death in the West? The best we have is 60 Minutes or Last 48 Hours. As I have previously stated, a lack of coverage is a fictional problem. It would be remiss of me to not share: Korea's issue is that there is too much information and too much coverage on controversies without ascertaining the quality of its sources.

I would advise you to look up the meaning of "succinct." It is not mutually exclusive to your claims about the Korea press protecting or hiding the identity of its informants and accusers.

I do not see what your criticism against the "netizens" is: If they lie or spread malicious rumors, this is still within the purview of general crowd mentality; this is not exclusive to K-netizens. If those lies and rumors were spread by the media, then your complaint should be directed against the press that disseminated false or misleading information.

Aren't you spreading rumors and malicious lies by speaking on a topic you possess limited knowledge of (especially regarding Lee Sun Kyun's purported lack of media coverage) with such vigor and confidence? You can claim ignorance but the netizens cannot? In fact, you are quite ironically making the same mistakes that you accuse the netizens of making: you go on a tirade by relying solely on the information provided to you in your Western bubble, propose there is a lack of existence of something because that something is not catered to you in your language, spread false information to unsuspecting readers by creating echo chambers as you reply to stranger to stranger, and then shame people for having a differing opinion. How are you not the same as the netizens that you so strongly condemn?
Replying to BaldFerrets Dec 30, 2023
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
Thank you for the article.
The headline is a bit misleading. There were 2 confirmed cases of suicide, Lee Sun Kyun and Astro's Moonbin, 1 case of likely suicide as the cause of death is unknown, Jung Chae Yul, and the other 2 were just deaths.
Replying to BaldFerrets Dec 30, 2023
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
I don't think 5 celebrities have killed themselves in 2023. That doesn't sound right. Can you list their names?
Replying to BaldFerrets Dec 30, 2023
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
Yes, Korean articles tend to be succinct, fact-of-the-matter, and instantaneous. You won't find much comprehensive information there unless you compile all the information together yourself.

To get something equivalent to, say, the longform and comprehensive journalism that you'd typically find in the New York Times, you'd have to, sadly, listen to the Korean broadcast directly. The broadcasting channels usually have reporters and experts sitting on a panel and going over a compilation of sources and articles, including exclusive information, and discussing the issues on the spot. Then, netizens disclose, summarize, or discuss the findings and facts in chatrooms. This is how Koreans often get their news. For non-Korean speaking audiences, it's quite difficult to acquire the information.

No, I am not in an Asian country, but I have learned enough Korean to get by. Also, I don't know too much about K-pop, so I can't really help you there. I do know, however, the country has grown to be more lax about its cutthroat environment; although it's definitely not as lax as the West. In fact, I do presume the cutthroat environment and the belief systems surrounding it is a contributing cause for Korea's suicide rate.
Replying to Maggi64 Dec 30, 2023
I discovered Asian cinema 3 years ago and love it. But I never dreamed that my new found love would include news…
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away due to online slut shaming, legislators introduced 'Sulli Law' on her behalf to crackdown on cyberbullying; Jang Ja Yeon's suicide prompted investigations for sex rings in the entertainment industry; Lee Eun Joo is still a household name. Currently, Korean mainstream press coverage is mostly on Lee Sun Kyun's death and finding its cause.

There are just different approaches toward resolving a problem. It's difficult to define into words what the distinction between the West and the East is, but probably the closest sense I can give is that The West prefers a holistic coverage of the individual, while the East prefers a reductionist coverage of the issue. Knowledge and experience that is privy to the celebrities: after their deaths, the West prefers to open up and share; the East prefers to keep them private. That is, just as you noted for Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade, Western press will cover the entirety of their lives, examine their upbringing, note periods of prosperity, point to potential triggering events, etc. Then, it will usually present a prescription to the audience at the end. On the other hand, Eastern press usually divorces the lives of the celebrity from the issue and examines all the factors pertaining to the issue itself. Then, it will attempt to identify potential causes and solutions from those factors.

Now, identifying the root of suicide for Korean celebrities is a bit more difficult. You can ask various professionals in their fields and they will give various answers. But, personally, I reckon the root cause for the celebrities is the same as for its general populous.