Hm... whilst I like Sea, I think he does struggle with his acting and his character portrayals. Based on that, I thought Sea's character in the pilot trailer was a good match for him, as it was similar to his personality, and he actually came across quite "adorkable" with his incessant "do you know that...". This apparent change in his character is not working for me (yet). Keen on the other hand is very much a natural entertainer, "quick on his feet", has great stage presence and sparkles whenever he's on screen or the stage. He has natural charisma which really draws you in, and this is something you can't easily teach. It's not surprising that he fronts clo'ver.
I'm going to be very controversial here and say something that will likely get me into a lot of trouble... but I think they were paired at a time when GMMTV did not appreciate or anticipate Keen's development, talent and potential. They were thrown together as almost like an experiment. But the two are worlds apart in terms of their development as actors and entertainers, and this is very much starting to show in all aspects. It's quite apparent in the trailer that the two are on different levels.
I also think this is down to them wanting different things in terms of their careers. It's clear Keen has great aspirations in the showbiz field (and the talent to match) whereas Sea seemingly sees this as a side hustle. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having different aspirations, and this is not criticism towards Sea in any way shape or form, but it does raise the question of how inflexible or flexible these fixed couples should be. The reality is that Keen would probably be better off with a different partner, and I wonder whether some breakups are caused by tension forming between actors for this reason.
Anyway - still looking forward to this, and I hope to be proven wrong so I can come back here and say I was!
I am sorry but, Sea's character is not really a weirdo or a nerd, he is just a popular guy who likes astrology,…
Agreed this makes no sense šµāš«is he popular or nerdy? Now heās all of a sudden a basketball player as well? But heās also quiet and shy?? For peteās sake who writes these things?! Do they not sit in a room, review it and go āhang on, this makes no senseā.
How much do air stewards and air hostesses earn in Thailand? š Surely not enough to live a luxury lifestyleā¦
Also, whereās Tui??!! šHeās had so little screen time itās borderline homophobic! (and by that I mean his gay fans donāt get to see enough of him)
Yes, there is plenty of symbolism. But there is no edge to it, itās a little bit of a snooze fest š“episode 5 was decent though. The dialogue hasnāt been there for episodes 1-4.
The religious aspect of this show feels more like a backdrop. The story wouldn't be much different if Fourth came…
itās okay. Thereās no edge to it. Episode 5 was pretty decent. Certainly not worth its current rating. Not sure how theyāll wrap this up in one more episode. Itās another rushed one from GMMTV due to schedule constraints.
I know that having more episodes for a series will just drag the storyline but only 6 episodes like a masterpiece…
I actually think itāll be better with 6 episodes. it forces the story to focus and keep pace, without unnecessary fillers. itās not about quantity itās about quality š
I can see where people are coming from with their criticism, however, I think a lot of what this show is about has been missed. This is an LGTBTQ series, but it is not romantic apart from our own and possibly the characters imagination and secret dreams. It is also not a bromance or platonic love. I think people have missed the obvious points it is trying to make.
This show is actually a subtle protest of how society, in this case conservative Korean and Japanese society, forces people to conform to a particular way of life and being. There is a lot of symbolism in this show, but you need to pay attention to the subtle hints. For me itās pretty obvious that both characters are gay, deep in the closet, suppressed and absolutely terrified of their feelings and what it could mean. You may think this is crazy, but it isn't. You have no idea how terrifying it can be for a gay person to realise who and what they are in a conservative society. It is not a coincidence that this show starts and ends in Germany as opposed to Japan or Korea. This is where they meet for the first time and this is where they end - outside of the confines of the society they live, where they are not bound by those rules.
The church burning is another symbol of protest. Johan is clearly Christian, and is living with a lot of guilt. The boy who burns down the church is the same one who argues with his conservative Christian father on the street outside Sumiko's apartment. There is symbolism here, in that the young boy rebels whilst Johan feels he cannot do the same. He feels trapped, not only because of where he is from but also because of his background. There is classism here as well. The boxing is another symbol, how he is constantly fighting everything.
Everyone around them knows they're gay, but they never say it. It's the taboo topic, the big pink elephant in the room. Even Ryu's mum and dad pretty much welcome Johan as his partner, and treat him with kindness, yet neither Ryu nor Johan act. It's like his parents are telling them through their actions it's fine, be together, but they never say it out loud, never admit it - because they can't. Same with his friends from university. Time and time again, the characters choose to stay hidden and simply live a life as close to heterosexual as possible. They even move in with Sumiko and her child. But again, this is symbolic as what they are showing is that families come in many forms, and two gay men can be raise and care for a child just as any other couple.
The end is a way of saying how they have spent/wasted their lives in hiding to appease someone else. Ryu "marries" Sumiko, like so many gay men like him have done before. The pressure to conform has worn them both down.
So, no this is not a BL or a romantic LGBTQ love story. It's not a bromance either. It is a tragic story and protest against a society that wants to suppress them.
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I'm going to be very controversial here and say something that will likely get me into a lot of trouble... but I think they were paired at a time when GMMTV did not appreciate or anticipate Keen's development, talent and potential. They were thrown together as almost like an experiment. But the two are worlds apart in terms of their development as actors and entertainers, and this is very much starting to show in all aspects. It's quite apparent in the trailer that the two are on different levels.
I also think this is down to them wanting different things in terms of their careers. It's clear Keen has great aspirations in the showbiz field (and the talent to match) whereas Sea seemingly sees this as a side hustle. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having different aspirations, and this is not criticism towards Sea in any way shape or form, but it does raise the question of how inflexible or flexible these fixed couples should be. The reality is that Keen would probably be better off with a different partner, and I wonder whether some breakups are caused by tension forming between actors for this reason.
Anyway - still looking forward to this, and I hope to be proven wrong so I can come back here and say I was!
Makes sense if Kanit is supposed to have a rich family. I doubt he would earn that much as a trolley dolly š
Also, whereās Tui??!! šHeās had so little screen time itās borderline homophobic! (and by that I mean his gay fans donāt get to see enough of him)
This show is actually a subtle protest of how society, in this case conservative Korean and Japanese society, forces people to conform to a particular way of life and being. There is a lot of symbolism in this show, but you need to pay attention to the subtle hints. For me itās pretty obvious that both characters are gay, deep in the closet, suppressed and absolutely terrified of their feelings and what it could mean. You may think this is crazy, but it isn't. You have no idea how terrifying it can be for a gay person to realise who and what they are in a conservative society. It is not a coincidence that this show starts and ends in Germany as opposed to Japan or Korea. This is where they meet for the first time and this is where they end - outside of the confines of the society they live, where they are not bound by those rules.
The church burning is another symbol of protest. Johan is clearly Christian, and is living with a lot of guilt. The boy who burns down the church is the same one who argues with his conservative Christian father on the street outside Sumiko's apartment. There is symbolism here, in that the young boy rebels whilst Johan feels he cannot do the same. He feels trapped, not only because of where he is from but also because of his background. There is classism here as well. The boxing is another symbol, how he is constantly fighting everything.
Everyone around them knows they're gay, but they never say it. It's the taboo topic, the big pink elephant in the room. Even Ryu's mum and dad pretty much welcome Johan as his partner, and treat him with kindness, yet neither Ryu nor Johan act. It's like his parents are telling them through their actions it's fine, be together, but they never say it out loud, never admit it - because they can't. Same with his friends from university. Time and time again, the characters choose to stay hidden and simply live a life as close to heterosexual as possible. They even move in with Sumiko and her child. But again, this is symbolic as what they are showing is that families come in many forms, and two gay men can be raise and care for a child just as any other couple.
The end is a way of saying how they have spent/wasted their lives in hiding to appease someone else. Ryu "marries" Sumiko, like so many gay men like him have done before. The pressure to conform has worn them both down.
So, no this is not a BL or a romantic LGBTQ love story. It's not a bromance either. It is a tragic story and protest against a society that wants to suppress them.