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3+ hours would be nice Hahaha! Just kidding!

I like HJ/ YS although I am well aware the chances of becoming a couple are low. While it is true that SY approached MK with a strategy, it is also true that he didn't kow MK was that vulnerable. Cos once she sprang up from her seat, he calmed her down, asked her what she was going to do and also told her how to approach. If SY really schemed, then let me ask. He is a strategist and I 100% do not see any issue with him doing his best to get what he wants. He told HJ that as well. However, what has YN to gain by telling MK about couple ring? YN has gain points telling BH about the couple ring but not MK. And MK forgot everything that SY said and focused on the 'unofficial date' and 'couple ring'. I did not see her scheming at all. She was hung up on his date with HJ when the show did not organize it. If we are going to find someone to blame for MK's actions, then YN is equally responsible too. I'm stating facts. However, I do not think anyone is to blame here. From SY's perspective this is what I see -

'I want to get back together with HJ. You want to get back together with YS. Let's work together.'

Besides, the way SY communicated with HJ is way different from how MK approached YS right? Again, different people have different levels of maturity and way to handle a situation. HJ knows SY wants to win her. YS knows MK wants to win him. But the way SY and MK handled it with their exes are different right? Can we blame anyone for a person's actions? Be it YN or SY.

Between SH-SH dynamics, there are indeed a few things. SH has been consistent towards BH since the beginning. As in since the moment he saw her in the house. And he has expressed his interest to go on a date with her straightforwardly as well. Also, with So Hyeon, he has not shown interest. She kept seeking him, yes and he did not tell her directly that he isn't interested either, yes. He did tell her right that to him, she is more like a celebrity while he feels like a side character. He got confused as to why she would show in any interest.

With SH, he is all for BH. Similarly, he couldn't find out whether So Hyeon was all for him. Again, I'm saying all of this from his perspective only. I'm not supporting or condoning his actions especially given that they are in a dating show on TV. With BH, it was almost love at first sight for him. He expressed his interest towards her. She kept denying him. He felt conflicted. He tried to compare himself with Mujin as to why Mujin got the chance and why he did not. He feels frustrated. Suddenly someone new shows up and wants to talk to him. He is confused cos she is beautiful, a celebrity kind of woman while he views himself as ordinary. He is confused if her interest towards him is real or not. Ofc, in the latest episode he clears the misunderstanding.

Also, look at Sang Won. He has been inconsistent since day 1. And I believe that is his process of getting to know people, be sure of what he really wants before making a move. He confused YE by buying the wasabi, told everyone that he is certain after meeting the two ladies in one day, wanted to get to know BH, and now is interested in talking to SH as she is his ideal type. I do not think it is wrong at all. For some people, they are able to find what they want in a person. To some, it takes time to get to know everyone and find a match. I wouldn't even mind if a participant cannot connect with anyone. Because, that just means that they are taking it seriously.

To me, being imperfect is not at all an issue. People can learn and grow but being dishonest and insincere knowingly is a no-no.

So Hyeon knew from the beginning that SH was not interested in her. However, she liked him. This is quite similar to YE/ SW. YE only liked SW and him not taking an interest in her did not stop her from pursuing him. I see Sang Hyeon as a raw person, unfiltered, disorganized and real. The point is after their talk in the room, So Hyeon knows how he functions. We cannot compare and say 'Hey hei s younger than you and is more matured. Why can't you be like him?' That wouldn't be right. Whether So Hyeon can move on from SH or not is entirely up to her. And I believe, had she been persent in the show since the beginning, things could have been different. She was interested in MJ as well right?

Yep I agree on all these points. In fact, I wonder if he finds Mujin cool for being able to express his emotions freely and maturely while he doesn't have that confidence. In his date with BH, we can see clearly how he compares himself with Mujin. He thinks that he is less cooler compared to Mujin. Thankfully, BH was able to understand and handle it well for him maturely. That's what I said I'm not supporting his actions but I understand him. He faces himself well through this show. It is indeed a challenge for him. What is interesting is he is collected towards a person he is sure of and is a mess towards the person he is unsure of. And this is fine. I'm sure this show would be a great influence where he learns about himself, analyzes his patterns and I believe this will help him overcome his self sabotaging thoughts and actions. I do not think he is evil or red flag or such. It's just a process of discovering himself. And it's okay to not be perfect. So Hyeon was able to see his raw struggles and this will put her heart at ease and help her choose wisely as well. As an older woman myself, I'm able to understand Sang Hyeon. Though like I said this may not be typical for a TV show, since I'm an observer, I can understand him as a person without bias.

SH, of all people, is far from a red flag. He is just himself. I honestly like the fact that he showed us his raw emotions, his confusions, his frustrations, his dilemma. I liked it. Ofc, in a tv program, this may not be viewed nicely but as a person he showed us who he is and not an act. It is understandable for So Hyeon to be frustrated. I mean, girl has expressed herself so much which he did not reciprocate. It is not his fault for not reciprocating her feelings. I think people are frustrated at the fact that he wasn't honest like the others who were pretty set on one person. Had he rejected her politely or told her that he was interested in BH, it would have been a different story. I have written my explanation in a reply to another comment here as well.

I agree. Even I was frustrated at some point. It was episode 10 that gave a clarity on what kind of person he is. Tbh, we cannot help but compare one person with the other. That itself could end up in a bias. We need to understand that everyone functions differently and that is okay. It is okay to make mistakes, to be confused, to be in a dilemma or not know how to handle emotions.

Also, I cannot help but be very surprised at how well he is able to converse with the guys, confidently, comfortably and at ease. On the date with BH, he seemed super cool, in the sense of expressing himself very clearly, oh even his shortcomings, faults, his vulnerability and even his low self esteem. That much is enough imo. He needs to go through this in order to grow.

In my eyes, SH caught my eyes since the beginning as a handsome guy, someone who has deeper feelings. However, he himself tends to think he is undeserving, not handsome. I think he has a cool job and is so good looking. Yes, and he himself admits that he doesn't know himself, seems like a child, is learning who he is on this show. He did say that this would be a challenge right? I know all of this may sound like an excuse but that is the reality of who he is. If it were me, I'd genuinely try to be friends with him cos he seems to be burdened when people express interest towards him especially when he finds a lot of differences between them. I really believe that time will shape him and he will learn to be able to reject politely and express himself confidently as well.

First of all, we need to understand that different people function differently. Let me point to you some examples - MJ only had eyes for BH. He showed it even during his date with YE. Also, HJ only had eyes for YG. He even politely rejected JW. Again, JW was very interested in JY, but he politely rejected her as well. SW needed some time to process YE's feelings. Everyone is like that. Some know for sure what they want, while some are in a dilemma and need some time. Just like everyone has a personality, SH seems to be the type of person who is confused about a new person whom he doesn't expect. He isn't a red flag, just a confused soul with clear feelings towards his love interest.

Yepp, they should give us a lot of content on other couples too - JH/ WK and JY/ WJ. I'm dying to watch their conversations and how much they have progressed in understanding/ forgiving and plans to get back together.

No worries at all. Thank you for the lovely response. I'm glad we both could observe HJ genuinely without bias :) In less than 12 hours, we get the next episode, I'm so excited, nervous and anxious LOL! I'm super waiting for HJ/ YS sea side date (if ever they get a chance) <3

This is how I understand the MK/ YS situation ~

MK: Let's get together first and talk about the issues later. Anyway, you are the one that needs to change.
YS: If we get back together, we will breakup for the exact same reason. Neither of us are willing to make an effort. I'm still torn.

Hmm with the SY/ MK collaboration (lol!), let me say few things. First of all, man is too funny that even HJ said he is possessed by an evil spirit lol. Although SY may have deliberately tried to intervene between HJ and YS, he's a harmless fool. Now, don't get me wrong. I do not condone resorting to such methods. And I'm not saying he is innocent either. He still has to 'know' the woman he is trying to win back. And at this point, where he is lacking in that area (lack of understanding towards HJ, her needs), which he isn't even aware of, and given the time pressure, he is doing whatever it takes to achieve his goal.

I can't help but think how it could have been, had HJ not found her interest in that house? He would have approached her differently. Maybe he might be a little patient, not too aggressive. Anyway, he had an interest to get back together even when he didn't know about her interest towards YS. I'm not sure how things would have played if SY had been in the show from the beginning.

Now, with MK, yes he did hint HJ (it was very funny), even cheered for MK, right in front of HJ. Haha! He did approach MK with a goal. Honestly, yes this is trying to sabotage two people's interests and feelings. But again, he did calm MK down once he realized she was tactless - the scene where she immediately gets up and he gets surprised and asks her what she is going to do and she tells him he is going to ask YS. SY made a mistake. Sometimes, it's not about the age factor, like MK was young. It's about mental maturity. The girl is still like a little child. He realized it right when she sprung up to confront YS. Then SY asked her to wait, explained that she shouldn't confront him or corner him like that, and that if it were him, he might run away. He explained it well. So, here whatever MK did is her choice, her decision. I would say she is a selective listener and also very skewed.

I remember the time when they were still in Seoul and JH gave her a pep talk. That was so wise - JH basically told her to remember the reason why they broke up, to think about whether they are willing to change, if she is able to see the changes in the person that could resolve the issue at hand, and then make a decision, else what's the point. But what did MK do? SY told her to talk calmly and not confront/ corner YS and yet what did she do? Again, I'm not saying it's bad or good or right or wrong. I'm saying let's not blame anyone else for the choices people make. She had made up her mind - whether it was to find a new interest or her interest towards BH in the beginning or trying to get back with YS. She made all those choices. Again, it's not about right or wrong, good or bad but it is what it is and let's try not to shift blame. It is a choice. No one else is to blame. Period.

She decided to find a new interest in the show, she also went on dates with almost all of them. This is what I saw - She went on the chat date with JaeH. She was super happy once she came home with him, showing him around the hosue and all. However, he was interested in JH. Also, she went on dates with WJ and WK, those men were hung up on their exes. I remember at first BH and MK talked a lot (on day 1 or so) and even went on their first date. BH wasn't interested after that either. Here I'm merely stating facts. Not sure if they saw her as young and childish or idk why. What I'm saying is, initially she liked BH a lot if you remember. She was even upset with him (when she said sth and he went down the stairs) many episodes later.

Had any of them actively pursued her, would she still be hung up on YS? I highly doubt that. Ofc, she would still try to talk to YS. However, I dont' think she would be demanding his attention and affection or confronting him and cornering him like what she is doing now. Again, this is not about good/ bad/ right/ wrong. It's simple and straight points based on what we are shown. So it's absurd to pin the blame on this person or that person. They are all adults. If SY triggered her and is solely the cause of the sabotage, then is MK a child who cannot think for herself? Mind you, SY did not just talk about each of them influencing their exes but also he specifically talked about the approach she should take. So, omitting half the truth just to suit/ justify this person or that person is not cool.

The fact is as MK said - she is stressed, emotional and when people keep talking about YS or HJ (including the text messages where they inform the exes who their exes chose - THAT played a huge part as well), she couldn't take it anymore. And it is absolutely normal. Anyone would be stressed, displeased and angry. It is absolutely normal and OKAY. She is confused a lot and it shows. She hasn't fully grasped the core problem of their breakup and is only focused on restarting the relationship with YS while YS is realistic and sees what would come of them if they were to restart.

I'm watching episode 10 and I don't quite agree with what the panelists are saying regarding Sang Hyeon when it comes to Bon Hee. If you remember, from the moment Sang Hyun saw Bon Hee, he has expressed his interest. The way he gave her a mug, which she placed it back only to accept the one Mujin gave. Also, the cushion incident. He also asked to talk to her privately in the house. I think now I understand Sang Hyeon better. I believe we would have seen a very different version of Sang Hyeon had he hit it off with Bon Hee.

During his date, I can't help but be surprised at how articulate he is, not nervous, no age gap uneasiness, no financial gap worries, none at all. He is comfortable with her and is able to hold a conversation honestly and sincerely. That says it all. He really is a good person.. just misunderstood. Including the panelists. Sad.

Bon Hee understood him well. I'm glad Sang Hyeon met someone like Bon Hee through this show. She made him understand himself better and also gave him the assurance that he is not less cooler than anyone else and it's just that everybody has a preference and it's okay. We all meet the people we have a good wavelength with. I'm happy to finally see Sang Hyeon expressing his honest feelings about himself and towards his love interest :) I want Sang Hyeon to continue being honest with his feelings and not be pressured by anything else. To be able to date someone is nice but to wait until you find the right person is gold. Especially for someone like Bon Hee and Sang Hyeon who are honest, sincere and serious towards their feelings.

I also see the exact thing with Bon Hee. Sang Hyeon has expressed himself a lot to Bon Hee during this show. However, she never once wavered from Mu Jin. And it was right from the beginning for her just like Sang Hyeon. Different people have different stories. Mu JIn and Bon Hee were able to find each other in this show. Similary, Sang Hyeon will find his match one day. Someone he doesn't have to compromise his expectations for but someone who would click perfectly with him like a missing puzzle piece. Aw man, I finally get Sang Hyeon!

Exactly my point! We all know in Korea, a woman is a noona even if she is a year older than a guy right? Bon Hee (Hwi?) mentioned her concerns about the Korean culture as well. I mean why? What were the show producers thinking? These are real people who have invested time and energy to be on this show. I'm not sure if there are any other hidden motives for this show. Tbh, I don't know. If there are no motives, then I feel so bad for the participants. These are real people with real emotions. I cannot imagine the amount of stress they'd be experiencing just for other people's entertainment.
If the participants were informed about the potential larger age gaps, then at least it wouldn't be a huge shocker to them. I'm sure the particpants wouldn't have known strictly about what age gaps to expect but even if they were informed, it must absolutely be a very generic information such as 'You may expect age gaps between 6 and 12' or something idk. Watching episode 10 absolutely says otherwise cos there were participants who expected lesser gaps and there were some who were aware there could be over 10 years as well. End of the day, this is different from other dating shows. If age is higher, wouldn't they be thinking about marriage or stability in mind when picking a dating partner? At this point, can we expect at least 1 real couple from this show, who go strong even after the show ends?

Me too. I'm getting nervous on their behalf lol!

Haha, the panelists say this often too. Also, some fights are necessary ig to push the couple to speak their minds.

I agree 💯 I'm not sure about JH/ WK. I love the couple and want them to be together. However, JH always speaks about exploring variety of interests with everyone. If in future she wants to explore some other career path, tbh she is free to do so, but will WK be able to ready to support her dream? Will JH be able to pursue her interests without stressing their relationship? I honestly hope so.

Oh noo! We have a new episode tomorrow. I'm neither ready nor did I wait a whole week just to see couples fighting everywhere! 😭😭😭

It's sad cos whatever the intention is behind this show and the particpants, it's still people's emotions.

Hmm.. I see.. then I only hope that he finds a way to solve his nervousness cos at some point he has to learn to do that right!

Is anyone here an INFP Male? I seriously need to understand Sang Hyeon's behaviour.

Hmm.. I know he has never dated an older female, and that he did mention right from the beginning that this would be a challenge.. but the basics of dating are still applicable irrespective of age right? Basics in the sense, helping out your partner during the date, being polite, at least some interactions. In that aspect, I really like Sang Won. He did not even have a partner during the group date but still he was very outgoing, supportive and interactive right? And why is he so bothered about Mu Jin? I really cannot understand him. But I still like him. He did admit that he doesn't know himself or why he is acting this way and that it felt like he is learning about himself through this show. I get it and sincerely hope all that he is experiencing is true.