No... Trust me it wouldn't count as plagiarism. The law is a lot more narrower than that. This is from someone…
But if the rightful copyright owner doesn't sue, then they are still exercising their rights.
Some creators just want you to acknowledge that you've used their work. They even set out rules of how to acknowledge. In that case that's not a copyright infringement. Not every creator of works will assert their copyright. Simple as that.
The things you mentioned only apply if there's an actual case brought before the courts and someone is asking for compensation.
No... Trust me it wouldn't count as plagiarism. The law is a lot more narrower than that. This is from someone…
If he mentions that he's paying homage, that's a different scenario from just using stuff and writing it off as yours. Like I said how can you compare that to this situation.
Since he acknowledges it, he leaves the choice to the copyright holder to sue or not to sue.
Tarantino is probably friends with most of those people anywhere.
This is different from when little known creators have their work plagiarized.
Thieves also don't pay homage or try to sample, they just pass off the work as theirs.
No... Trust me it wouldn't count as plagiarism. The law is a lot more narrower than that. This is from someone…
We were not talking about general ideas here since you said you studied copyright laws.
Honestly, if you knew what you were talking about it's not that hard to name one case or the "locus classicus" of copyright law.
Using examples without the legal principles established by law is kind of lame.
Besides, I already know how to use Google, why would I pay a person that can't even name one copyright/intellectual property case.
Using Tarantino is not that helpful because you don't know what sort of deals he has with those other creators , since he is a celebrated director. Much different from other people.
No... Trust me it wouldn't count as plagiarism. The law is a lot more narrower than that. This is from someone…
You read alot of copyright laws but right now you are giving me an opinion your opinion. What is your legal basis for saying that?. Do you have caselaw that establishes that point of view as a legal norm or principle ?.
How would you know what the Mangaka would do or say if they never exercised their right to sue for copyright infringement. Just because someone waives their rights to sue doesn't mean there was no copyright infringement.
Some artists decide not to sue, which is well within their rights to do. Besides lawsuits take time and money and this might be the reason why some artists don't sue.
You should be very afraid if your only credit to creativity is ripping off other people's artistic ideas and talents.
No... Trust me it wouldn't count as plagiarism. The law is a lot more narrower than that. This is from someone…
How would you know? It was never tested in a court of law. The Mangaka of Kaiji never asserted his right or say anything about the issue.
In fact the writer of Squid Game admitted that he got inspiration from several Japanese Mangas.
Inspiration also doesn't extend to copying certain aspects of the Manga. Anyone that read the Kaiji knows Episode7 S1 of Squid Game has the same game as in Kaiji. So much for inspiration.
Yeah Squid Game is a mush-up of many films/manga before it. I still think they plagiarized Japanese survival Mangas but the Japanese just didn't care enough to persue the legal route because they are confident in their own creations.
My opinion is most Korean things (film, music, dances) are very unoriginal & they have a tendency to copy stuff and sell it as their own.
The world has been gracious with them in many obvious instances of plagiarism.
It depends to your taste/preferences though. we all know that almost all k-drama using old tropes even though…
Please don't try to give me a lecture, I've watched enough dramas to be able to make up my mind. You can just scroll past my comment as it's clearly not meant for you.
As a consumer of dramas, I can voice my displeasure when my time is wasted.
We make comments so that other like-minded people can make an informed decision and false advertising is wrong. Expectations VS Reality.
A bad drama doesn't need to be entirely bad for it to be bad. Yes, it can have good parts but that doesn't mean I shouldn't critique or criticize the bad parts.
I thought this would be a normal workplace drama, with a woman challenging the patriarchy as she tries to climb to the top or gain recognition for her hardworking. Wait, that was only two episodes of the drama.
After that it's back to the old kdrama trope of obvious chaebol family secrets. Frog đž was a Prince all along. Don't tell me you didn't see that one coming. Disappointed!!!
What in the ableism is this? I'm not too fond of drama/movies that portray disability as something to be rescued from or to be protected. White knighting, was too much for me.
I wasn't sure about these two at first but I have to say it was a welcome change to all the trash I read. I really needed this type of clean,pure and calm show and Taishin's weird smile which ended up making me smile too. Yeah, they won my heart in the end.
You're the one spouting "nonsense." The MC romance was developing, then disappeared midway as if their kiss and…
Haha, did you just repeat the whole message I sent to you? Running out of original ideas (hahaha). What a shame, that cheap fake useless degree that you're so proud of didn't teach you any originality I guess. LOL
Nobody cares about your comments here, we are all laughing at what an attention-seeking w...you are. Saying all sorts just to get attention. Is "supercilious" the only word you can come up with to describe my obviously superior mind? Getting kind of old by now, don't you think?
Please don't generalize and speak as if this is what all Jdramas are like. This is a very genre specific niche…
You said "Japan has a problem" as if these are the only type of stories that Japan as a country is only producing. Have you watched all Japanese dramas?. Are all their stories shoujo/Josei manga adaptations?.
Shoujo and josei manga cater to a specific audience. Often, these readers seek escapism and wish fulfillment. The "helpless" female lead can be a vessel for the reader to project themselves into the story and experience the thrill of being rescued or having a dramatic romance.
Romantic narratives in shoujo and josei manga are often driven by fantasy and idealized versions of love and relationships. Some readers enjoy the dynamic where a more dominant or assertive male lead "saves" or guides the female lead, and this power dynamic can be comforting or exciting for them. This doesnât always mean the female characters are fundamentally weak; they might be written to fulfill a specific romantic ideal where the story focuses on the development of the relationship rather than their individual strength.
2. Character Growth:
While some female leads may start off innocent and unsure, many shoujo/josei stories depict their growth throughout the narrative. They overcome challenges, develop their strengths, and gain agency. The romance becomes a catalyst for this personal development. The "helpless" or seemingly passive female lead might embody the insecurities, anxieties, and emotional struggles many young women face during adolescence. Instead of being weak, these characters can be seen as a mirror for the readersâ own feelings of vulnerability, societal pressure, or uncertainty in navigating relationships and life choices.
Actually, I find some internal monologues by manga characters very relatable in terms of things we don't say out loud but feel inside & suppress (haha) like your heart beating fast when you see your crush or just being nervous & imagining the worst (so relatable) etc.
3. Diverse Portrayals:
The genre isn't monolithic. There are many strong, independent female leads in shoujo/josei who take charge of their lives and don't rely solely on men. Explore works by female mangaka who often challenge traditional tropes.
While some female leads may fit the "damsel in distress" trope, shoujo and josei manga also feature a wide range of female characters with varying degrees of agency, strength, and complexity. From ambitious career women to fiercely independent protagonists, these stories often showcase diverse representations of femininity. It's important to acknowledge that not all female leads conform to the same archetype, and many narratives challenge traditional gender roles.
4. Cultural Context:
Social norms and expectations of femininity can differ between cultures. What might seem "weak" from a Western perspective could be a portrayal of traditional feminine virtues in Japan.
5.Finding Stories You Enjoy:
If you're tired of these tropes, explore shoujo/josei with strong female leads or try other manga/drama genres altogether.
Remember, shoujo/josei is a vast genre. There are stories out there that will resonate with your desire for strong female characters.
They just all don't need to be this way, some of us enjoy laughing at these totally relatable characters who represent the imperfection us in one way or the other.
Japan has a problem. How much longer do we have to endure these pitiful female leads? Itâs like watching the…
Please don't generalize and speak as if this is what all Jdramas are like. This is a very genre specific niche type of manga with visible troupes, so it's not like a Japan problem. In terms of character archetype the FL seems to be a Dandere type and that explains the way she acts, how she talks and how she looks.
Looking at the source material will help you understand dramas adapted from manga, especially in terms of characterizations.
Japan has a wide spectrum of tv dramas. Honestly, shoujo manga adaptations rarely have a serious type of FL as they are primarily written for younger girls and will be about falling in love, meeting your type etc.
You're the one spouting "nonsense." The MC romance was developing, then disappeared midway as if their kiss and…
Itâs adorable how you think your little jabs are cutting deep. But honestly, your attempts at wit are as effective as a screen door on a submarine. You prattle on about adaptations like youâve cracked the code of the universe, yet your understanding is as shallow as a kiddie pool.
And letâs talk about your so-called âcomplexâ arguments (hahaha) . Theyâre about as complex as a toddlerâs crayon drawingâcolorful, sure, but utterly lacking in substance. So go ahead, keep flinging your insults like a monkey in a zoo; itâs entertaining to watch you make a fool of yourself. Just remember, when you throw mud, youâre the one who ends up dirty.
Let me break it down for you since you're struggling: no one said adaptations have to be exact replicas of their source material. The pointâclearly lost on youâis that understanding the source allows for predictions, especially when the adaptation isn't as wild a departure as you're desperately trying to pretend. But, hey, I get it, you needed something to cling to in your half-baked tirade.
As for "complexity," it's cute how you think repeating the word "simple" in as many ways as you can manage somehow proves your point. Itâs almost like you think if you talk down to people enough, no one will notice what a nincompoop, dullard, ding bat, numskull you are. (Did they teach you these word in your cheap college, I doubt it, but Google is free)
So, by all means, continue with the petty name-calling and over-inflated sense of superiority. But don't mistake the volume of your words for the value of your input.
"You're just a troll here, desperately fishing for attention because it's the only way you'll ever feel relevant by replying to everyone that said anything positive about the show.
You're the one spouting "nonsense." The MC romance was developing, then disappeared midway as if their kiss and…
Oh, how wonderful that your precious cash actually bought you a shred of insight! Too bad it didn't come with the ability to string together a halfway decent argument. Tossing around cheap insults because someone dares to disagree with you? Classic insecure behavior.
Guess what? Adaptations reference their source, and if thatâs too complex for your pea-sized brain to process, maybe itâs time to step back and reconsider who really needs to get some brain cells.If that's too complex for you to grasp, well, maybe it's time to reconsider who really needs that extra brain cell.
You're the one spouting "nonsense." The MC romance was developing, then disappeared midway as if their kiss and…
Not as desperate as your incoherent arguments after pretending your education and degree taught you anything except shoddy critical thinking.
There's a possibility since there's one 30 minute episode left and the Manga has 7 volumes so far plus the pacing. So it's a reasonable conclusion to make not your what about-isms and frothing at the mouth arguments all over this page.
Only a court of law would determine Fair Use if the copyright holder decides to sue. So give it rest.
Some creators just want you to acknowledge that you've used their work. They even set out rules of how to acknowledge. In that case that's not a copyright infringement. Not every creator of works will assert their copyright. Simple as that.
The things you mentioned only apply if there's an actual case brought before the courts and someone is asking for compensation.
Since he acknowledges it, he leaves the choice to the copyright holder to sue or not to sue.
Tarantino is probably friends with most of those people anywhere.
This is different from when little known creators have their work plagiarized.
Thieves also don't pay homage or try to sample, they just pass off the work as theirs.
Honestly, if you knew what you were talking about it's not that hard to name one case or the "locus classicus" of copyright law.
Using examples without the legal principles established by law is kind of lame.
Besides, I already know how to use Google, why would I pay a person that can't even name one copyright/intellectual property case.
Using Tarantino is not that helpful because you don't know what sort of deals he has with those other creators , since he is a celebrated director. Much different from other people.
How would you know what the Mangaka would do or say if they never exercised their right to sue for copyright infringement. Just because someone waives their rights to sue doesn't mean there was no copyright infringement.
Some artists decide not to sue, which is well within their rights to do.
Besides lawsuits take time and money and this might be the reason why some artists don't
sue.
You should be very afraid if your only credit to creativity is ripping off other people's artistic ideas and talents.
In fact the writer of Squid Game admitted that he got inspiration from several Japanese Mangas.
Inspiration also doesn't extend to copying certain aspects of the Manga. Anyone that read the Kaiji knows Episode7 S1 of Squid Game has the same game as in Kaiji. So much for inspiration.
My opinion is most Korean things (film, music, dances) are very unoriginal & they have a tendency to copy stuff and sell it as their own.
The world has been gracious with them in many obvious instances of plagiarism.
As a consumer of dramas, I can voice my displeasure when my time is wasted.
We make comments so that other like-minded people can make an informed decision and false advertising is wrong. Expectations VS Reality.
A bad drama doesn't need to be entirely bad for it to be bad. Yes, it can have good parts but that doesn't mean I shouldn't critique or criticize the bad parts.
After that it's back to the old kdrama trope of obvious chaebol family secrets. Frog đž was a Prince all along. Don't tell me you didn't see that one coming.
Disappointed!!!
Nobody cares about your comments here, we are all laughing at what an attention-seeking w...you are. Saying all sorts just to get attention. Is "supercilious" the only word you can come up with to describe my obviously superior mind? Getting kind of old by now, don't you think?
Shoujo/Josei manga is an art form like Horror or Action movies. With specific clichés, tags and archetypes attached to it. People accept characters in these type of shows acting in a certain way, sometimes painfully obvious way dumb unsafe choices in Horror movies but Horror movies still get made. Don't they?.
Things to think about before....
1. Audience and Genre Expectations:
Shoujo and josei manga cater to a specific audience. Often, these readers seek escapism and wish fulfillment. The "helpless" female lead can be a vessel for the reader to project themselves into the story and experience the thrill of being rescued or having a dramatic romance.
Romantic narratives in shoujo and josei manga are often driven by fantasy and idealized versions of love and relationships. Some readers enjoy the dynamic where a more dominant or assertive male lead "saves" or guides the female lead, and this power dynamic can be comforting or exciting for them. This doesnât always mean the female characters are fundamentally weak; they might be written to fulfill a specific romantic ideal where the story focuses on the development of the relationship rather than their individual strength.
2. Character Growth:
While some female leads may start off innocent and unsure, many shoujo/josei stories depict their growth throughout the narrative. They overcome challenges, develop their strengths, and gain agency. The romance becomes a catalyst for this personal development. The "helpless" or seemingly passive female lead might embody the insecurities, anxieties, and emotional struggles many young women face during adolescence. Instead of being weak, these characters can be seen as a mirror for the readersâ own feelings of vulnerability, societal pressure, or uncertainty in navigating relationships and life choices.
Actually, I find some internal monologues by manga characters very relatable in terms of things we don't say out loud but feel inside & suppress (haha) like your heart beating fast when you see your crush or just being nervous & imagining the worst (so relatable) etc.
3. Diverse Portrayals:
The genre isn't monolithic. There are many strong, independent female leads in shoujo/josei who take charge of their lives and don't rely solely on men. Explore works by female mangaka who often challenge traditional tropes.
While some female leads may fit the "damsel in distress" trope, shoujo and josei manga also feature a wide range of female characters with varying degrees of agency, strength, and complexity. From ambitious career women to fiercely independent protagonists, these stories often showcase diverse representations of femininity. It's important to acknowledge that not all female leads conform to the same archetype, and many narratives challenge traditional gender roles.
4. Cultural Context:
Social norms and expectations of femininity can differ between cultures. What might seem "weak" from a Western perspective could be a portrayal of traditional feminine virtues in Japan.
5.Finding Stories You Enjoy:
If you're tired of these tropes, explore shoujo/josei with strong female leads or try other manga/drama genres altogether.
Remember, shoujo/josei is a vast genre. There are stories out there that will resonate with your desire for strong female characters.
They just all don't need to be this way, some of us enjoy laughing at these totally relatable characters who represent the imperfection us in one way or the other.
Looking at the source material will help you understand dramas adapted from manga, especially in terms of characterizations.
Japan has a wide spectrum of tv dramas. Honestly, shoujo manga adaptations rarely have a serious type of FL as they are primarily written for younger girls and will be about falling in love, meeting your type etc.
And letâs talk about your so-called âcomplexâ arguments (hahaha) . Theyâre about as complex as a toddlerâs crayon drawingâcolorful, sure, but utterly lacking in substance. So go ahead, keep flinging your insults like a monkey in a zoo; itâs entertaining to watch you make a fool of yourself. Just remember, when you throw mud, youâre the one who ends up dirty.
Let me break it down for you since you're struggling: no one said adaptations have to be exact replicas of their source material. The pointâclearly lost on youâis that understanding the source allows for predictions, especially when the adaptation isn't as wild a departure as you're desperately trying to pretend. But, hey, I get it, you needed something to cling to in your half-baked tirade.
As for "complexity," it's cute how you think repeating the word "simple" in as many ways as you can manage somehow proves your point. Itâs almost like you think if you talk down to people enough, no one will notice what a nincompoop, dullard, ding bat, numskull you are. (Did they teach you these word in your cheap college, I doubt it, but Google is free)
So, by all means, continue with the petty name-calling and over-inflated sense of superiority. But don't mistake the volume of your words for the value of your input.
"You're just a troll here, desperately fishing for attention because it's the only way you'll ever feel relevant by replying to everyone that said anything positive about the show.
Guess what? Adaptations reference their source, and if thatâs too complex for your pea-sized brain to process, maybe itâs time to step back and reconsider who really needs to get some brain cells.If that's too complex for you to grasp, well, maybe it's time to reconsider who really needs that extra brain cell.
There's a possibility since there's one 30 minute episode left and the Manga has 7 volumes so far plus the pacing. So it's a reasonable conclusion to make not your what about-isms and frothing at the mouth arguments all over this page.
Seriously, you need a refund.