Usually I'm only watching kdramas, but kdrama keep dissapointing me these days, so I'd recommend Someday or One…
Yess hahhaah, I guess am just not used to this longer ep counting Chinese dramas have xD
I'll probably went for longer ep later but baby steps, lol, will add WWWY to ptw then, thank you! If you have another drama in mind please do recommend me even if it's more than 24, hehehe
I'm also here just to read comments. Honestly none of them have experienced our journey while watching this. They…
Ikr >.< here we've been discussing TONS of things why we find this drama so problematic, while it's so easy for people giving their 10 ratings no matter how glaring their plot holes are & how toxic the message they spread. If this was a 10, I wonder what kind of drama below them @@
HJP gang! (And everyone with whom i shared my frustrations over the past months) add me here! I can't find all…
Usually I'm only watching kdramas, but kdrama keep dissapointing me these days, so I'd recommend Someday or One Day (Taiwanese) & The romance of tiger and rose (Chinese) instead because those are the highlights finding from 2020 for me.
For kdrama with office theme I'd recommend Kkondae Intern.
It's ironic if this one consider as a family drama when the main ML even take his family for granted & never appreciated…
It must been painful for you to watch then, even I keep facepalming on how unprofessional & illogical they are, so immature & reckless. To think the writer wrote this kind of drama after two years researching is ==" Two years & this is her product, sigh
It's ironic if this one consider as a family drama when the main ML even take his family for granted & never appreciated…
Ikr, lol, business? What business, felt more like a child's play to me. Lesson? Toxic lessons? Cheating is fine, lying & keep on lying as habits is fine, beating people left & right is fine, manipulative is fine, if so, yeah that's probably the lesson I get from this drama :/
lol if you're watching this drama for family and lessons taught, then you're better off watching Home Alone, The…
It's ironic if this one consider as a family drama when the main ML even take his family for granted & never appreciated them, acted as if he has nothing when he had this loving & supportive parents.
As someone who rated this drama 9.5, I’d love if you’ll explain me what makes you think this drama is toxic.…
They never address what's wrong as wrong & the characters never been put accountable for the fraud & mistakes they did & instead they even keep being rewarded for it. Everything that the writer find unfavoring for the ML was swept under the rug just because he is the ML. No matter if the ML has no integrity & have concerning personality matters he shd hv been dealing within himself before starting a relationship, it never matters because the FL knows nothing about what ML did behind her back & she never see what the viewers has seen. Even if she sees, she turn a blindeye because the writer wrote her character like that.
On the other hand, the person who do goodness never been acknowledge, people just turn a blind eye on him, the writer gives him no appreciation nor reward him with happiness. He is plain just being used as a mere tool by the writer & never been considered as a person.
I won't go into more details as it'd be too long & I've pointed this out way back before in this comment section.
Lol idk why people complaining about other viewers who give this drama a 1 rating but say nothing to people who give this drama a 10 rating, when 10ratings is more misleading than 1 rating for this toxic drama with bad message. Even people who give 10ratings is more than 25% compare with 1rating which only around 4%, far less. If we only count the stars & verified account ratings then the score is 7.83 which's even lower, so you got the gist who create more fake accounts & try to bump the ratings? Everyone is entitled to give their own ratings according to their own standards, if you mind with them then better ask mdl mod to remove 1 rating option. And it's far from only because of the shipping, but the moral of the story itself, so problematic & toxic. Better learn other people's perspective before degrading others & called them childish and start labelling people. This is not about the actors, this is about the essence of the characters & moral story, how they sent wrong messages to the viewers.
This drama & Born Again had the worst ending of all kdrama I've ever watched= toxic
Survey!! Which 2020 drama has 1) best 2) worstEnding?
Worst ending: Born Again & Start Up >> Not only on 2020, but ever to date, both had toxic ending, the good guy (2nd ML) being punished & suffered the most, no happy ending for him & he had to apologize to the toxic main ML, just the same like Start Up
I really think they were trying to make NDS like a Choi Taek character. High IQ, low EQ, quirky, and lovable.…
The difference between those two characters are like heaven and hell, lol.. yeah they probably tried that concept but fail miserably & hits rockbottom. I do agree that not only the writing is problematic, the lack of nuance & sincerity portrayed on NDS characters might making it even worst than they already are. Like, was NDS supposed to be portrayed as that petty & arrogant?
They give the most happy ending to the characters we never care about & give a crappy ending to the characters who deserve the happy ending the most, well done, a shitty ending for a shitty drama with toxic messages. The main ML being consistently annoying while getting everything he doesn't deserve JUST BECAUSE he is the main ML. Goodbye Start Up, finally the torture is over, you won't be missed!
I'll miss the people in this page, the only good thing in this drama was HJP, the road to KSH & fellow viewers here, thank you everyone, for making this drama more bearable with all your theories & feedbacks, we've been through thick & thin together, hahaha, see you in another drama, hopefully a much better one!!
now... i will checking again if any drama played by same agency as main lead couple.. i'm sure it was affecting…
Yep, I didn't like the way their agencies dealing with SU promotion, force feeding us with this coupling both in drama & real life, looks like a forced media play
*Went to rewatch You Drive Me Crazy to rinse off my pallate of how disgusting Start Up ending have been. Thankgoodness I've it downloaded already as I've predicted SU will have a terrible ending.
*it's Kim Seon Ho's drama as main ML with only 4 ep long, perfect to watch in this kind of days xD
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I'll probably went for longer ep later but baby steps, lol, will add WWWY to ptw then, thank you! If you have another drama in mind please do recommend me even if it's more than 24, hehehe
For kdrama with office theme I'd recommend Kkondae Intern.
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If this doesn't count as immoral/unhealthy/toxic, idk what will tbh
To think the writer wrote this kind of drama after two years researching is =="
Two years & this is her product, sigh
Lesson? Toxic lessons?
Cheating is fine, lying & keep on lying as habits is fine, beating people left & right is fine, manipulative is fine, if so, yeah that's probably the lesson I get from this drama :/
On the other hand, the person who do goodness never been acknowledge, people just turn a blind eye on him, the writer gives him no appreciation nor reward him with happiness. He is plain just being used as a mere tool by the writer & never been considered as a person.
I won't go into more details as it'd be too long & I've pointed this out way back before in this comment section.
If we only count the stars & verified account ratings then the score is 7.83 which's even lower, so you got the gist who create more fake accounts & try to bump the ratings?
Everyone is entitled to give their own ratings according to their own standards, if you mind with them then better ask mdl mod to remove 1 rating option.
And it's far from only because of the shipping, but the moral of the story itself, so problematic & toxic.
Better learn other people's perspective before degrading others & called them childish and start labelling people.
This is not about the actors, this is about the essence of the characters & moral story, how they sent wrong messages to the viewers.
This drama & Born Again had the worst ending of all kdrama I've ever watched= toxic
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I do agree that not only the writing is problematic, the lack of nuance & sincerity portrayed on NDS characters might making it even worst than they already are.
Like, was NDS supposed to be portrayed as that petty & arrogant?
Goodbye Start Up, finally the torture is over, you won't be missed!
I'll miss the people in this page, the only good thing in this drama was HJP, the road to KSH & fellow viewers here, thank you everyone, for making this drama more bearable with all your theories & feedbacks, we've been through thick & thin together, hahaha, see you in another drama, hopefully a much better one!!
*it's Kim Seon Ho's drama as main ML with only 4 ep long, perfect to watch in this kind of days xD