Here are some force fed plot that manifested into actual dialogue in Start Up. The way the writer inserted these…
Any kid will write it better than this forced narratives & romance the writer have insisted to force feeding us, lol, we only need to find a kid with common sense, which's plenty, given a person's morality are even higher at their age.
I really needed something else to focus on to forget the disappointment inflicted by StartUp. I didn't want to…
Am trying to avoid TB because it has triangles in it & also bullying (which I hate), SU triangle still left me a scar sooo am refraining myself not to start it, BUT they just had to play it on my cable tv, so now am torn to watch or not to watch, lol I'll probably wait for a few more weeks to see the feedbacks to decide. Mr Queen I think the safest bet rn so I'll be watching that first, I think a lot HJP pals here will be watching that as well since the casts are fine & it's the drama that will replace SU time slot.
but he shouldnt project that insecurity and blame onto hjp..thats the problem
Punching HJP has nothing to do with Noongil, lol & seriously am actually shock that you'd still justifying his act & look for an excuse, the exact samething that the show trying to do, resulting this drama came out as toxic to me. He punch HJP because HJP told SST the truth the reason why DM & SA was fired because they didn't have the capacity/skills 2STO has been looking for & 2STO never intend to buy SST but to hired the 3 Sans engineers, and that's THE FACT which's the thing that YS has been asking to JP, so where's the lie? Why did he punch HJP for answering that, when he bring this to his self because of his own insecurities & ego? Noongil thing is even a proof how NDS is a manipulative guy, use HJP pity to his advantage. 2STO offer has never been bad for the 3 sans, but it came at someone else's expense, DM &SH.
Eavesdropping person just to amend his mistake is the same like make another mistake to fix his mistake, like it's not a decent thing to do, and he did it not only once, he eavesdropping DM conversation with IJ too, he keep justifying every way for the sake of covering his insecurities. Same with leaving a drunk girl in empty street at night, that's foolish.
SST disband, pls refer to my point above, his insecurities & ego come at someone else's expense.
but he shouldnt project that insecurity and blame onto hjp..thats the problem
The most significance one would be punching HJP for NDS own insecurity & mistake, then there's also claiming something that isn't his to begin with: letters & plant for his own insecurity, eavesdropping DM to know her weakness for his own insecurities, leave her alone in the park when DM is drunk after stalking her just to wear a suit to impress her because of his own insecurities, getting SST disband because of his own insecurity towards JP, and many more
but he shouldnt project that insecurity and blame onto hjp..thats the problem
True, if being insecure then means he can get everything in life while using his insecurity as an excuse to do misdeeds to other people without feeling an ounce of remorse & never being punished for what he did, then I want to be that insecure person like NDS too :/
But if you think about it. Didn't this all start because of Dosan doing the good deed to help out Dalmi by pretending…
Good deed? if we talk about good deeds, what about tons JP good deeds that vanish into thins air? The lie shd hv ended that night after NDS help DM on the party as JP request if it was about NDS good deed to help DM, NDS choose to prolong the lie because he is smitten by DM, for himself, for his own good to reach the girl he likes. His good deed has ended that night, after that night it was all about his own necessity, even if he had to manipulate the girl he did it anyway, he granted everyway just to be with her, that's selfish, not good deeds.
Omg, that smile, I just died from cuteness overload!And lmfao at that post office comment.I doubt there's anyone…
Ikr, his smile & laughs, lol, I bet he cringes to the bones, lmao x'D it's so hilarious to see him like that XD
Ditto, I rarely fell for SLS too, the biggest SLS of mine would be KSH here & LSH from Born again, two drama with a strong SL but give toxic message & ridiculous story line come in 2020 >"<
I saw swoon's story about swoonies choice award HJP's most heartbreaking scene honestly all were heartbreaking…
It's really hard to choose because all of them are too heartbreaking, especially the second question, but my choice apparently the minority one (for the second question), lol
Can anyone recall another actor playing a second lead character in a drama ever had not only once but twice interview from Swoon, a single dedicated interview solely for him like KSH has rn?
Okay, in a comment below I suggested that the writer and director had to change the original ending but stubbornly…
Annyeong, ahh it's been quite a while to see you, welcome back!! XD
I do agree on your take, but actually am leaning more towards the first alternative, I think it's more plausible that the writer's initial plan might be having HJP as her end game but there might be some invisible hands come interfere within the production & there's probably another drama come into play behind the scene. Because seeing the writer's past work which usually good (or even great) overall with good message, it's really hard to believe how she write NDS character like this, unlikeable, petty, childish, has no integrity and so on without redeeming his mistakes (basically the way his character has been portrayed in the 2nd half) if she intend to make the viewers to root for him. You're probably right that it might be a sign of her protest to the people who forced her to change the script of the endgame will be. Else if this come from an unknown writer, yes I agree the 2nd alternative here is the more plausible one.
this is what i hope the writer-nim to see so the mistake won't happen again in the future, but wonder if our view…
Quoting yours "but I do think it's wrong to bash on the writer/production team in a sarcastic manner like in your original comment for that reason."
I beg to differ, every production team is responsible to the works they did, so they also responsible if this kind of toxic message is spread within their drama. And no, I'm not being sarcastic because that's really the message I get by watching this drama. They never address what's wrong as wrong but choose to glorified & rewarded it instead.
If you think this drama deserves a 10 no matter how badly written with bad moral messages they spread, plot holes & inconsistencies in writing, then it's up to you but don't force other people to believe so. NDS growing? No he's degressed, his character development went backwards, his wealthiness is the only thing growing in him, I love him at the beginning of the series but despise him at the end of the series & many viewers share the same take, so there's that.
this is what i hope the writer-nim to see so the mistake won't happen again in the future, but wonder if our view…
Exactly, that's why I really hope the production team receive enough backlash as much as they possibly get so they'll learn to not underestimate their viewers just to earn big bucks while sending this kind of message to the viewers.
If they heard only praising then we'll be getting more & more drama like this, gosh! Istg it's disgusting.
Good deeds won't get acknowledge nor appreciate by others let alone gives you good karma.
On the other hand Bad deeds will give you good karma & all the love and luck in the world, getting praised & acknowledge by the people matters to you, don't bother to repent, you just need to make sure that you can manipulate them well.
Started 10 mins of this when it began airing, moved on to complete some other dramas then wanted to pick this…
Imo yes, ep 1 deserve a 10, ep 15&16 deserve a 1, bad moral message & the writer has some twisted mind, imho, it went downhill after ep 9 & fell to rockbottom when it ended, but feel free to watch & judge it yourself
I think the lines that I said is something like I'll be rewatching YDMC to cleanse my pallate from SU & I hv it downloaded already since I've predicted SU ending will be terrible, YDMC is 4 ep length drama with KSH as main ML, something like that.
if that's the lines that you're referring to then yes it's me xD Yass, I feel you, I feel brokenhearted as well to see how HJP doesn't get the justice he deserve, so I need to see him being happy asap but not too ready to invest for another long, 16 ep drama, hence I think 4 ep YDMC is the better fitting to ease our mind. Aww, thank you, you're so kind with your words, am happy if my post there could help, we've been suffering in this together, it feels like we're suffering post break up together >.< hhhhh
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I'll probably wait for a few more weeks to see the feedbacks to decide.
Mr Queen I think the safest bet rn so I'll be watching that first, I think a lot HJP pals here will be watching that as well since the casts are fine & it's the drama that will replace SU time slot.
He punch HJP because HJP told SST the truth the reason why DM & SA was fired because they didn't have the capacity/skills 2STO has been looking for & 2STO never intend to buy SST but to hired the 3 Sans engineers, and that's THE FACT which's the thing that YS has been asking to JP, so where's the lie? Why did he punch HJP for answering that, when he bring this to his self because of his own insecurities & ego?
Noongil thing is even a proof how NDS is a manipulative guy, use HJP pity to his advantage.
2STO offer has never been bad for the 3 sans, but it came at someone else's expense, DM &SH.
Eavesdropping person just to amend his mistake is the same like make another mistake to fix his mistake, like it's not a decent thing to do, and he did it not only once, he eavesdropping DM conversation with IJ too, he keep justifying every way for the sake of covering his insecurities. Same with leaving a drunk girl in empty street at night, that's foolish.
SST disband, pls refer to my point above, his insecurities & ego come at someone else's expense.
Ditto, I rarely fell for SLS too, the biggest SLS of mine would be KSH here & LSH from Born again, two drama with a strong SL but give toxic message & ridiculous story line come in 2020
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Can anyone recall another actor playing a second lead character in a drama ever had not only once but twice interview from Swoon, a single dedicated interview solely for him like KSH has rn?
I do agree on your take, but actually am leaning more towards the first alternative, I think it's more plausible that the writer's initial plan might be having HJP as her end game but there might be some invisible hands come interfere within the production & there's probably another drama come into play behind the scene.
Because seeing the writer's past work which usually good (or even great) overall with good message, it's really hard to believe how she write NDS character like this, unlikeable, petty, childish, has no integrity and so on without redeeming his mistakes (basically the way his character has been portrayed in the 2nd half) if she intend to make the viewers to root for him.
You're probably right that it might be a sign of her protest to the people who forced her to change the script of the endgame will be.
Else if this come from an unknown writer, yes I agree the 2nd alternative here is the more plausible one.
"but I do think it's wrong to bash on the writer/production team in a sarcastic manner like in your original comment for that reason."
I beg to differ, every production team is responsible to the works they did, so they also responsible if this kind of toxic message is spread within their drama. And no, I'm not being sarcastic because that's really the message I get by watching this drama.
They never address what's wrong as wrong but choose to glorified & rewarded it instead.
If you think this drama deserves a 10 no matter how badly written with bad moral messages they spread, plot holes & inconsistencies in writing, then it's up to you but don't force other people to believe so.
NDS growing? No he's degressed, his character development went backwards, his wealthiness is the only thing growing in him, I love him at the beginning of the series but despise him at the end of the series & many viewers share the same take, so there's that.
If they heard only praising then we'll be getting more & more drama like this, gosh! Istg it's disgusting.
Good deeds won't get acknowledge nor appreciate by others let alone gives you good karma.
On the other hand
Bad deeds will give you good karma & all the love and luck in the world, getting praised & acknowledge by the people matters to you, don't bother to repent, you just need to make sure that you can manipulate them well.
Well done, writer-nim!
if that's the lines that you're referring to then yes it's me xD
Yass, I feel you, I feel brokenhearted as well to see how HJP doesn't get the justice he deserve, so I need to see him being happy asap but not too ready to invest for another long, 16 ep drama, hence I think 4 ep YDMC is the better fitting to ease our mind.
Aww, thank you, you're so kind with your words, am happy if my post there could help, we've been suffering in this together, it feels like we're suffering post break up together >.< hhhhh