Exactly, same outcome when one side wants children and the other doesn't. Both dramas do seem to share the same views on marriage. Yep, definitely pretend the last episode doesn't exist 😂
Entertainment writers aren't writing in a cultural vacuum, devoid of any awareness of the zeitgeist of their time.If…
As you're free to.
As I am to prefer things that reflect my value system (but that's a common thing with most, I would've thought? Everyone has their limits). I personally cannot support something sending such a warped, doormat message. The FL being single would've been better. Not the first J-drama with those issues, unfortunately ( I can think of two more that did this).
And writers produce stories that reflect their values so if I see something that has values that are like this, I would be dismayed by their ideologies and see it as 'not right' because that's the message the drama is pushing. I take the idiom: if you don't stand for something, you fall for anything to heart.
Maybe the issue is more with the manga, but they're free to change things when transposed to the screen? I'm yet to finish it and I found it frustrating so there it is.
To each their own and agreed to disagree as this discussion will go in circles longer than this disappointing drama! 😂
🤣Even if you're single, some can still see that their relationship was unbalanced, unhealthy and passionless. Haven't hated an ending this much since Soredemo Ai wo Chikaimasu ka? (2021)!
Entertainment writers aren't writing in a cultural vacuum, devoid of any awareness of the zeitgeist of their time.If…
"a Japanese writer is going to reflect Japanese culture, and not, say, the culture of Pakistan." Obviously! That goes without saying. My point is: you're saying this is a reflection of their culture (again, yes of course), but I'm also adding that: what is this drama saying about the writer's morality? The message of this drama is a sad one, IMO.
*Edit I don't have an issue with unhappy endings, but the FL's decisions just seem to add up to nothing by the ending. Why go through the divorce just to return to a man who doesn't want to give her children. don't trust (both cheated) and who relies on her, then the drama even glorifies this. That stuns me. That's tragic! Even her being a single working woman is preferable.
'Fan of this' because you come across to be defending it.
Entertainment writers aren't writing in a cultural vacuum, devoid of any awareness of the zeitgeist of their time.If…
Understood. But my question to that answer you gave would be: what are you saying about is being reflected in the 'zeitgeist of their time' then? Expound, if you please.
Entertainment writers aren't writing in a cultural vacuum, devoid of any awareness of the zeitgeist of their time.If…
"Entertainment writers aren't writing in a cultural vacuum, devoid of any awareness of the zeitgeist of their time."
😕 Huh? I never never stated nor implied that they were, btw.
"If they're writing morally ambiguous material, it's because they think there's an audience for it."
Indeed there's an audience for 'morally ambiguous' but the morality of this doesn't seem all that ambiguous, just a vicious cycle of actions into perpetuity. Sisyphus: the J-Drama! 🤷♀️
I wonder why adultery J-dramas love to keep their characters in dysfunctional relationships somehow, like a prison sentence? And the overriding message is: this unhealthy need to return to familiarity is better than being single?! An utter waste of time, like two more I can think of. Something is mentally and morally not right with writers who produce this.
Both dramas do seem to share the same views on marriage.
Yep, definitely pretend the last episode doesn't exist 😂
As I am to prefer things that reflect my value system (but that's a common thing with most, I would've thought? Everyone has their limits). I personally cannot support something sending such a warped, doormat message. The FL being single would've been better. Not the first J-drama with those issues, unfortunately ( I can think of two more that did this).
And writers produce stories that reflect their values so if I see something that has values that are like this, I would be dismayed by their ideologies and see it as 'not right' because that's the message the drama is pushing. I take the idiom: if you don't stand for something, you fall for anything to heart.
Maybe the issue is more with the manga, but they're free to change things when transposed to the screen? I'm yet to finish it and I found it frustrating so there it is.
To each their own and agreed to disagree as this discussion will go in circles longer than this disappointing drama! 😂
Haven't hated an ending this much since Soredemo Ai wo Chikaimasu ka? (2021)!
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Obviously! That goes without saying.
My point is: you're saying this is a reflection of their culture (again, yes of course), but I'm also adding that: what is this drama saying about the writer's morality? The message of this drama is a sad one, IMO.
*Edit
I don't have an issue with unhappy endings, but the FL's decisions just seem to add up to nothing by the ending. Why go through the divorce just to return to a man who doesn't want to give her children. don't trust (both cheated) and who relies on her, then the drama even glorifies this. That stuns me. That's tragic! Even her being a single working woman is preferable.
'Fan of this' because you come across to be defending it.
Hang on, are you are fan of this, btw?
😕 Huh? I never never stated nor implied that they were, btw.
"If they're writing morally ambiguous material, it's because they think there's an audience for it."
Indeed there's an audience for 'morally ambiguous' but the morality of this doesn't seem all that ambiguous, just a vicious cycle of actions into perpetuity. Sisyphus: the J-Drama! 🤷♀️
And the overriding message is: this unhealthy need to return to familiarity is better than being single?!
An utter waste of time, like two more I can think of.
Something is mentally and morally not right with writers who produce this.
Significantly older than Joss, I'll give you that.
I felt the same frustration while reading the manga (still haven't finished it, yet).