I loved Teshow...such beautiful eyes and reasonably good acting for a newcomer...Ping seems to have improved a bit, but still has a long way to go in terms of acting and facial expressions
Noooooooooooooo....why are they re-making this now....there were so many other dramas that never got made, they could have picked one out of those.
I am not going to watch this. The OG remains a favourite because of the Book-Frame (Ohm -Toey) pair....which reminds me I sooooo miss Ohm Phawat ....I hope we get to see him as a BL lead soon
Great review. You said everything I wanted to say.I love the time travel genre, and so far I Feel You Linger in…
Thanks! So agree about I feel You Linger In the Air...one of the best that has ever come out from Thailand...also a rare case where I liked the live-action drama more than the book. I hunted down the novel and read it because I felt so betrayed that they didn't do the next season after us that sneak preview at the every end of season 1. Will surely watch the Scent of Memory, as advised.
I started Most Beautiful Count and Love Upon a Time, and dropped both. I just wish someone makes another time travel BL drama that is as beautiful as IFYLITA
I totally agree! I ended it feeling like I just wanted to rewatch The Untamed. Of course the actual on-screen…
Your season 2 ideas sound good...and yes, I dont think the final scene depicted a cured Pei Yanzhi actually coming back to meet his A Qi....it was more like dream/metaphorical vision of their union.
This drama didn't really deal with homophobia. It dealt with something bigger. Barth wasn't sent to the school…
Thanks for sharing your views. I agree to an extent, but even though the drama mostly steered clear of delving into the challenging aspects of homophobia directly, the entire premise is homophobia.
The reason Tanrak and Barth faced those dilemma is homophobia, the reason Barth's father was trying to beat the shit out of him is homophobia, the reason both Tanrak and Barth felt alienated and experienced all that self-loathing, including doubts about them being worthy of their parents' or anybody's love or kindness, is homophobia...even when they chose themselves and their love, like how Aunt Lek also did....all of them constantly had to contend against the guilt of being sinners and deserters of people who supported them, and that again is clearly owing to how they were made to believe from early on that it is their mistake that they had to move away and not the other way round, which again is a clear result of homophobia and religious dogma around it
So I disagree with the take that the drama did not show homophobia...it was all over and it was the very premise of this show and story. It is just that the storytelling did not actively engage with the subject and focused more on the personal journeys of Tanrak and Barth of accepting themselves and their love...but the entire idea of this story would have been non-existent without the very real and clear presence of homophobia and religious dogma around accepting people who are queer-trans.
They hit each other on the road bang on, from what it seemed and both fell sideways on to the beach and then, on top of each other....even the benevolent BL-gods must be cringing from up above/down under....🙄🙄🙄
I don’t want to spoil too much, but she wasn’t betrayed.Give it a few more episodes and you’ll probably…
Exactly....but when we are blinded by jealousy, anger, and ego, we fail to see any reason, and usually take the path that has the potential to hurt our perceived 'enemies' the most, no matter who they are, and what the consequences of our actions are...thankfully Pin woke up and reconsidered before it was too late
I don’t want to spoil too much, but she wasn’t betrayed.Give it a few more episodes and you’ll probably…
Agree to most of what you said.
If you really ask me, Sasin did not really need to be apologetic about falling for the man his cousin loved, particularly knowing full well that he will never ever fall for her...and yet he apologised considering her feelings and positions and also the fact that he promised to protect her and look out for her and understood that it must have felt like a betrayal when she learnt of their relationship. But in the strictest sense, why can't he love a man just because his cousin fancied him? The hurt is understandable, like any of us would feel if the person we love doesn't love us back and loves another close to us...but that does not entitle us to a revenge using our societal power advantage..Pin was downright a monster in that context...but as a human being both Sasin and Saenkaew disregarded that and kept thinking of her and her feelings....and people are still harping on how Pin was a victim in the this context...she was NOT..on the contrary, she was the perpetrator
It was actually Saenkaew who was in a soul-crushing pain, he already had the huge baggage of his POS father blaming him for his mother's death, holding him ransom to a loveless, imposed life-long partnership to rescue their assets and family reputation, protect grandma, and then also the burden of trying to work out a solution that helped his undeserving father, while at the same time not break the heart of the girl who loved him....but Pin could see none of that because she was too engrossed in her self-pity and victimhood, albeit not without reasons, but none of that was due to Saenkaew or Sasin.
If Pin didn't insist on marrying Saenkaew out of her desire for revenge, a lot of what transpired, would never have happened in the first place. Saekaew would have got the marriage certificate with Rachawadee, transferred the assets as per his POS father's demands, and saved Pin from a loveless marriage....
But what did she chose to do instead - force the man to marry her, turned a blind eye to the pleadings of the man she claimed to love, disregard that her father-in-law would do harm to her 'dear' cousin and blurted all of their whereabouts to him....and then when Sasin was down with a bullet-wound and destroyed from having watched his love get married to his own cousin, a woman he didn't love.....Pin shows up in the pretext of feeding him herbs, to rub it in that she was in Bangkok with 'her husband'....and also try everything in her power to guilt-trip the only person in her entire family who protected, loved and cared for her... such malice and viciousness...and yet neither of these two men blamed her....and she is supposed to be victim out of these three!! RIGHT...the blindness of it all!
I tell you , Pin was downright a disgusting and evil MONSTER during this phase....and not by default, but by choice....she deserved absolutely NO kindness from either Sasin or Saenkaew after what she did, forget apologies...and yet both of these men continued to apologise to her, and did not even once bring up how she, single-handedly ruined their chance at happiness and forced Sasin to almost die in the process....because they genuinely cared for her feelings and well being.
She DID NOT give up Saenkaew to Sasin...he never belonged to her in the first place...... what was she doing dissolving in self-pity, making it seem like she is making this HUGE sacrifice....it was either that, or her stuck with a loveless, bitter marriage for a lifetime...
Thankfully better reason prevailed and she saw the folly in her behaviour...and yes towards the later part she could get rid of her monster-like tendencies, and start being more rational and humane, and I believe, could retrace her way back to loving the duo....as she should have been able to do a long time ago, for the only two people who really cared for her...and she is NO VICTIM in that context...she should thank her lucky stars that both Sasin and Saenkaew let it go, like they did for the POS father....
Pin's hurt and pain was a reality, but so was her evil, monster avatar, even if short-lived
I don’t want to spoil too much, but she wasn’t betrayed.Give it a few more episodes and you’ll probably…
I stand by those words...her being all that and her being in pain due to other valid reasons can co-exist in my opinion...they are not mutually exclusive...and I think that way, her character was written really well.....very real
Yes, she has her set of problems, the ass**le parents, the all encompassing patriarchy that took away control of her own life away from her, and the only happiness she imagined was to escape all of that with the man she loved from an early age...so yes, what you said about 'soul crushing pain' is not incorrect....her pain was valid and it is but human to crack under it...but that does not and will not ever change the fact that she was all set to deliberately inflict pain and revenge on the men who actually acted and planned to protect her, her interest and life, even though they fell for each other in the process...
Her victimhood with regards to the larger society, her parents and her life situation was valid and real, but not her victimhood with regards to these two men who she chose to take it out on...that, I repeat, was "a fantasy tale of betrayal she herself imagined, made herself the martyr hero of, pickled in self-pity and victimhood"...and no amount of arguments to the contrary will convince me otherwise.
Me seeing and acknowledging Pin's legitimate hurt/pain and being a victim , does not need me to disregard the problematic/villainous side of her.... or anyone for that matter....the good, bad, and the ugly all co-exist in us IMO...and at least it is good that her character was able to choose the better thing to do in the end.
I am not going to watch this. The OG remains a favourite because of the Book-Frame (Ohm -Toey) pair....which reminds me I sooooo miss Ohm Phawat ....I hope we get to see him as a BL lead soon
I started Most Beautiful Count and Love Upon a Time, and dropped both. I just wish someone makes another time travel BL drama that is as beautiful as IFYLITA
The reason Tanrak and Barth faced those dilemma is homophobia, the reason Barth's father was trying to beat the shit out of him is homophobia, the reason both Tanrak and Barth felt alienated and experienced all that self-loathing, including doubts about them being worthy of their parents' or anybody's love or kindness, is homophobia...even when they chose themselves and their love, like how Aunt Lek also did....all of them constantly had to contend against the guilt of being sinners and deserters of people who supported them, and that again is clearly owing to how they were made to believe from early on that it is their mistake that they had to move away and not the other way round, which again is a clear result of homophobia and religious dogma around it
So I disagree with the take that the drama did not show homophobia...it was all over and it was the very premise of this show and story. It is just that the storytelling did not actively engage with the subject and focused more on the personal journeys of Tanrak and Barth of accepting themselves and their love...but the entire idea of this story would have been non-existent without the very real and clear presence of homophobia and religious dogma around accepting people who are queer-trans.
Something tells me my eagerness to see Tee in a semi-lead role in a BL after the stunner that was Triage, is going to end up in disappointment
If you really ask me, Sasin did not really need to be apologetic about falling for the man his cousin loved, particularly knowing full well that he will never ever fall for her...and yet he apologised considering her feelings and positions and also the fact that he promised to protect her and look out for her and understood that it must have felt like a betrayal when she learnt of their relationship. But in the strictest sense, why can't he love a man just because his cousin fancied him? The hurt is understandable, like any of us would feel if the person we love doesn't love us back and loves another close to us...but that does not entitle us to a revenge using our societal power advantage..Pin was downright a monster in that context...but as a human being both Sasin and Saenkaew disregarded that and kept thinking of her and her feelings....and people are still harping on how Pin was a victim in the this context...she was NOT..on the contrary, she was the perpetrator
It was actually Saenkaew who was in a soul-crushing pain, he already had the huge baggage of his POS father blaming him for his mother's death, holding him ransom to a loveless, imposed life-long partnership to rescue their assets and family reputation, protect grandma, and then also the burden of trying to work out a solution that helped his undeserving father, while at the same time not break the heart of the girl who loved him....but Pin could see none of that because she was too engrossed in her self-pity and victimhood, albeit not without reasons, but none of that was due to Saenkaew or Sasin.
If Pin didn't insist on marrying Saenkaew out of her desire for revenge, a lot of what transpired, would never have happened in the first place. Saekaew would have got the marriage certificate with Rachawadee, transferred the assets as per his POS father's demands, and saved Pin from a loveless marriage....
But what did she chose to do instead - force the man to marry her, turned a blind eye to the pleadings of the man she claimed to love, disregard that her father-in-law would do harm to her 'dear' cousin and blurted all of their whereabouts to him....and then when Sasin was down with a bullet-wound and destroyed from having watched his love get married to his own cousin, a woman he didn't love.....Pin shows up in the pretext of feeding him herbs, to rub it in that she was in Bangkok with 'her husband'....and also try everything in her power to guilt-trip the only person in her entire family who protected, loved and cared for her... such malice and viciousness...and yet neither of these two men blamed her....and she is supposed to be victim out of these three!! RIGHT...the blindness of it all!
I tell you , Pin was downright a disgusting and evil MONSTER during this phase....and not by default, but by choice....she deserved absolutely NO kindness from either Sasin or Saenkaew after what she did, forget apologies...and yet both of these men continued to apologise to her, and did not even once bring up how she, single-handedly ruined their chance at happiness and forced Sasin to almost die in the process....because they genuinely cared for her feelings and well being.
She DID NOT give up Saenkaew to Sasin...he never belonged to her in the first place...... what was she doing dissolving in self-pity, making it seem like she is making this HUGE sacrifice....it was either that, or her stuck with a loveless, bitter marriage for a lifetime...
Thankfully better reason prevailed and she saw the folly in her behaviour...and yes towards the later part she could get rid of her monster-like tendencies, and start being more rational and humane, and I believe, could retrace her way back to loving the duo....as she should have been able to do a long time ago, for the only two people who really cared for her...and she is NO VICTIM in that context...she should thank her lucky stars that both Sasin and Saenkaew let it go, like they did for the POS father....
Pin's hurt and pain was a reality, but so was her evil, monster avatar, even if short-lived
Yes, she has her set of problems, the ass**le parents, the all encompassing patriarchy that took away control of her own life away from her, and the only happiness she imagined was to escape all of that with the man she loved from an early age...so yes, what you said about 'soul crushing pain' is not incorrect....her pain was valid and it is but human to crack under it...but that does not and will not ever change the fact that she was all set to deliberately inflict pain and revenge on the men who actually acted and planned to protect her, her interest and life, even though they fell for each other in the process...
Her victimhood with regards to the larger society, her parents and her life situation was valid and real, but not her victimhood with regards to these two men who she chose to take it out on...that, I repeat, was "a fantasy tale of betrayal she herself imagined, made herself the martyr hero of, pickled in self-pity and victimhood"...and no amount of arguments to the contrary will convince me otherwise.
Me seeing and acknowledging Pin's legitimate hurt/pain and being a victim , does not need me to disregard the problematic/villainous side of her.... or anyone for that matter....the good, bad, and the ugly all co-exist in us IMO...and at least it is good that her character was able to choose the better thing to do in the end.