This has to be one of the most beautiful shows that I have watched in the recent times....the forests, the sounds, the moon, the camaraderie, and the love.....it was just so poignant....ο»Ώ
While the ending was bitter-sweet and real, it ended on a note of hope and was plain beautiful...... I still hope that they will think of making another season...but even if they don't, this will remain one of the most cherished Thai shows that I have ever watched...
My verdict is just go for it....even if it seems slow in the beginning, keep at it, it is worth it.
Ah...I'm dying to watch this one and yet not able to start on it since I know I just don't have the option to do all 8 episodes together...and if I start, there is no way I can stop .....waaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh...:(((
Thanks for this review, hopefully will get to it by end May
YES YES YES!! I'm guessing the new season will have some intense heartbreaks, new pairings and hook-ups, and then possibly some delicious 'getting back together'?? In other words, I'm hoping they will have a happy ending for season 2, but keep it as real as season 1....can't wait!!!!!!!!!π
Wow, so many words to just say you hate bi/pan/fluid people. You are claiming bi people have some sort of privilege,…
Mostly agree...while each of our struggles are unique and we will continue to be different in so many ways, our collective fight is against patriarchy and its myriad power trappings, and norms....
Yes, there are several intersections within the larger LGBTQ+ community and some of us do have more privileges and access than some others...... acknowledging that is critical....but what we need to realise is that instead of turning those differences in power-positions into accusations, or a competition to win against each other, we need to use those privileges to stand by and hold each other up..
We need to stop acting like we are at a trauma olympic/pageant to prove who has it worst, and hence gets the most attention, and gets to play the biggest victim .....
While trying to find validation and acknowledgement for our trauma is really important, and can be healing in ways, it has unfortunately, turned into a very slippery slope for us....where we are constantly dragging each other down...trying to prove that my 'ism'/way is the best and forgetting the whole point of fighting for our right to live as ourselves....as diverse beings
Wow, so many words to just say you hate bi/pan/fluid people. You are claiming bi people have some sort of privilege,…
I came looking for this drama because I got smitten with Joss...and whoa! what an interesting conversation I got to read...
Thank you for saying what you did....too many so called 'activists' and self-appointed guardians of the 'community' just want another ghetto and norm-ified system with very similar power structures rather than liberation from oppressive norms to live like you are....I say, if you want that, go do that, but don't go around bringing down others who do not want that..spend your energy elsewhere than focus on undoing efforts by those that are NOT your enemies...that's exactly how patriarchy and oppressive cultures thrive and perpetuate, by co-opting some from within the oppressed...
I guess the conditioning towards hetero-normative structures, hierarchies, and ideas are so ingrained and hard-wired in us that we probably do not even recognise how toxic we are being to others ..and NO, me being a victim and at the receiving end of oppression and discrimination never automatically makes me unable to oppress and peddle the same shit to another...and unfortunately too many of us in the queer population tend to do that....
Ikr...while I still watch some of these formulaic/popular shows because I do like them tropes (lol)...but it's…
Hi5! I guess formulaic shows with the 'right kind of leads' (wink wink) is like a comfort zone - we watch them to feel relaxed, content and happy without being challenged too much....while new kinds of content is like a discovery - exciting, intriguing and energising, but with an element of uncertainty that is a distinct move away comfort
Yes people are missing out on this gemβ¨οΈ I agree a lot of shows especially the popular ones are formulaic.
Ikr...while I still watch some of these formulaic/popular shows because I do like them tropes (lol)...but it's so refreshing when there is a departure from the oft-trodden and 'tested' formulae because that brings us new stories, and new perspectives to us viewers, and I absolutely dig that π₯°
are you high? like what even is this comment, 1) where has it said Ponds character is straight? or any sexuality,…
Exactly....there a hundred other things that a 'university student' can be caught up with/focusing on in their lives, other than romance.....and then again, even if they have romance in their lives, a certain story about them can very much focus on a different aspect of their life without needing to be apologetic that why is it not focusing on the romance!
My take is - you either like it or you don't. You may express your opinion on it for sure, but there's very little that you can do to change the takes of others and you need to let others be without trying to cancel them.
Sigh! Aren't we all caught up in our own loops and constantly putting on that lens to look at everything! The result is that we end up seeing only that what we want to see...and a lot of the times that is dictated by our own insecurities and triggers ....which then tends to drive our perceptions, truths and politics....anyway, that's just human I guess.
You say it is not BL, but the description says 'Day finds himself caring for Ozone, the autistic son of a distant…
Well..that's legit...I have a hunch they might just be romantic interests for each other...I'm not sure if I'll watch this since neither Pond nor Gun are my favourites, but I guess it'll be nice to have queer lead characters in shows, like other non-queer lead characters without the show necessarily being a BL
Came to see if this is bl. It's not, so I'm outta here...
You say it is not BL, but the description says 'Day finds himself caring for Ozone, the autistic son of a distant relative following her death'
Day is played by Pond and Ozone by Gun....do you not think that this most likely means they have a romantic angle, like the other cis-het couple Night and Dream?
I have to say, everything about the show is fantastic. The production, the cinematography, the color grading,…
Very interesting discussion...I agree to some of what each one of you said.
Being from Asia, I can not but note that white people, with blue eyes, blond hair, are still considered 'more desirable' in most cases and spaces....possibly a hangover of the colonisation in large parts of Asia...even if its not the white race, a fairer skin is usually more desirable in most of our cultures and societies...I think somehow the Asian gaze has been conditioned to look at 'fairer' as 'superior' for centuries, both within our own cultures and then as a direct fallout of the colonisation....now I'm not sure if the production-direction team of this show explicitly wanted to flag this narrative on colourism in their story or not, but it very much exists in our societies and may be Bua's character was a nod to that, among other things
Also, personally I feel that we need to accept migrants in our societies, no matter where they are from, albeit without diluting the narrative on power imbalances that various races have, and hence agree to your possible point on 'visibility'.....and then there is the question of intersectionality of race and queerness....usually, I would not want to 'other' someone just because they are from another country or race...unlike how the white race and western nations and cultures continue to do...even when they have been the immigrants (and plunderers) in innumerable countries and societies.
Would I have liked if Bua was from another Asian country/race? I think that'll be great, but the dynamics and script then has to change accordingly....
Just last episode, I wanted Baa and Bua to be end game so much until that scene in the bedroom where he told Bua…
I hear you.....when we have someone we love/look up to, say things to put us down, it scars us forever....no matter why they do that....whether they had their own struggles and fears that makes them take it out on us...and even if we allow for such rationale at a later stage in life, those are wounds that never quite heal completely...but yes, we find ways to live with them...and I'm happy to learn that you also got past most of it....even if you get triggered again at times, know that it happens to most of us who experienced similar situations, and it is likely that we will be able to spiral out and back up again...hugs!
Thai speakers, help me again please. Of the conversation between Fou4Mod and Chian after he calls him 20 times,…
Yes.....I was also dying to know...I mean how could they leave out such a crucial piece!!!....for a moment I thought it was intentional and there will be a reveal later, but nothing of that sort happened.
I can breathe again...phew!! The last episode was long, at times terrifying, and then finally completely melted me. ππππππ
Oh! the angst, the almost-heartbreaks, the tension....almost killed me....ha ha! I loved, loved, loved this show...frankly, even if this had to have a heartbreaking finale, I would still love it ....maybe even a tiny-winy bit more than a happy ending (that masochist in me...lol). But so glad that it's a happy one....π₯°
While the ending was bitter-sweet and real, it ended on a note of hope and was plain beautiful...... I still hope that they will think of making another season...but even if they don't, this will remain one of the most cherished Thai shows that I have ever watched...
My verdict is just go for it....even if it seems slow in the beginning, keep at it, it is worth it.
Thanks for this review, hopefully will get to it by end May
Yes, there are several intersections within the larger LGBTQ+ community and some of us do have more privileges and access than some others...... acknowledging that is critical....but what we need to realise is that instead of turning those differences in power-positions into accusations, or a competition to win against each other, we need to use those privileges to stand by and hold each other up..
We need to stop acting like we are at a trauma olympic/pageant to prove who has it worst, and hence gets the most attention, and gets to play the biggest victim .....
While trying to find validation and acknowledgement for our trauma is really important, and can be healing in ways, it has unfortunately, turned into a very slippery slope for us....where we are constantly dragging each other down...trying to prove that my 'ism'/way is the best and forgetting the whole point of fighting for our right to live as ourselves....as diverse beings
Thank you for saying what you did....too many so called 'activists' and self-appointed guardians of the 'community' just want another ghetto and norm-ified system with very similar power structures rather than liberation from oppressive norms to live like you are....I say, if you want that, go do that, but don't go around bringing down others who do not want that..spend your energy elsewhere than focus on undoing efforts by those that are NOT your enemies...that's exactly how patriarchy and oppressive cultures thrive and perpetuate, by co-opting some from within the oppressed...
I guess the conditioning towards hetero-normative structures, hierarchies, and ideas are so ingrained and hard-wired in us that we probably do not even recognise how toxic we are being to others ..and NO, me being a victim and at the receiving end of oppression and discrimination never automatically makes me unable to oppress and peddle the same shit to another...and unfortunately too many of us in the queer population tend to do that....
My take is - you either like it or you don't. You may express your opinion on it for sure, but there's very little that you can do to change the takes of others and you need to let others be without trying to cancel them.
Sigh! Aren't we all caught up in our own loops and constantly putting on that lens to look at everything! The result is that we end up seeing only that what we want to see...and a lot of the times that is dictated by our own insecurities and triggers ....which then tends to drive our perceptions, truths and politics....anyway, that's just human I guess.
Day is played by Pond and Ozone by Gun....do you not think that this most likely means they have a romantic angle, like the other cis-het couple Night and Dream?
Being from Asia, I can not but note that white people, with blue eyes, blond hair, are still considered 'more desirable' in most cases and spaces....possibly a hangover of the colonisation in large parts of Asia...even if its not the white race, a fairer skin is usually more desirable in most of our cultures and societies...I think somehow the Asian gaze has been conditioned to look at 'fairer' as 'superior' for centuries, both within our own cultures and then as a direct fallout of the colonisation....now I'm not sure if the production-direction team of this show explicitly wanted to flag this narrative on colourism in their story or not, but it very much exists in our societies and may be Bua's character was a nod to that, among other things
Also, personally I feel that we need to accept migrants in our societies, no matter where they are from, albeit without diluting the narrative on power imbalances that various races have, and hence agree to your possible point on 'visibility'.....and then there is the question of intersectionality of race and queerness....usually, I would not want to 'other' someone just because they are from another country or race...unlike how the white race and western nations and cultures continue to do...even when they have been the immigrants (and plunderers) in innumerable countries and societies.
Would I have liked if Bua was from another Asian country/race? I think that'll be great, but the dynamics and script then has to change accordingly....
Oh! the angst, the almost-heartbreaks, the tension....almost killed me....ha ha! I loved, loved, loved this show...frankly, even if this had to have a heartbreaking finale, I would still love it ....maybe even a tiny-winy bit more than a happy ending (that masochist in me...lol). But so glad that it's a happy one....π₯°