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In 2021, Kim Yong-ho uploaded a video announcing his withdrawal from Garo Sero Institute, stating that he had “turned into a monster while trying to expose other monsters.”

And this didn’t stop Garo Sero Institute from investigating celebrities. If he was innocent, maybe he would have responded differently instead of releasing that video. If he believed it was a setup, he seems like the type of person who would have called it out.

In scandals like this, things can spiral in all directions as paranoia, controversies, and conspiracies take over. While certain elements may raise suspicions, it’s crucial to stay rational and logical, backing claims with solid evidence. Otherwise, the message gets lost in an attempt to push as much information as possible. Some people also lose sight of actual justice, treating the situation more like entertainment than a serious issue.

Are you suggesting that the trial for sexually assaulting a woman was a setup?

Maybe you’ve been watching too many dramas, but this would be the worst possible time to act against someone, given everything surrounding this scandal. The family seems to have the most information, which is likely why the agency is trying to reach an arrangement.

If someone wanted to silence this YouTuber, who had much bigger and more personal issues to deal with before his passing; they would have acted before it went public, not after, as that would only invite further investigation. This is basic logic, even if the agency hasn’t made the best decisions so far.

"The police determined that the YouTuber had died by suicide. Prior to his death, Kim Yong-ho was on trial for sexually assaulting a woman at a bar in Busan and had received a two-year suspended prison sentence."

Not sure if it has anything to do with this scandal tbh.

Account was made yesterday, they are clearly seeking attention and trolling.

Considering that she survived multiple backlashes, was initially ignored by her previous agency, and later pressured to pay sums of money she didn’t have, it's clear she faced immense struggles. The fact that she used pictures with KSH as leverage to find a way out, and that her death occurred on KSH’s birthday, suggests that the agency and KSH had a greater impact on her than public perception alone.

This doesn’t mean the public holds no accountability, it's a mess. However, I believe things would have turned out very differently if the agency hadn’t first ignored her and then pressured her into making difficult choices. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, who knows what truly happened behind the scenes.

No worries.

It would depend on her age, but even then, submitting these pictures as evidence to prove they kissed wouldn’t be sufficient, though they strongly suggest it happened. Any competent lawyer, or the team of lawyers that typically defend celebrities, could easily dismiss them.

What surprises me more is his agency’s statement. It seems like they didn’t do their due diligence before releasing it, despite taking days to prepare and even announcing it was coming

Anyway, as you mentioned, proving anything now that she’s deceased will be extremely difficult. Unless there are additional photos we haven’t seen that serve as stronger evidence, he will likely argue that it was consensual. Based on her public statements, she appeared to be fond of him and, at times, impatient. He was probably trying to make her wait as long as possible, knowing it would inevitably harm his image. And while it is all speculation, I could imagine him telling her to wait until she is X years old to make it public, then when it didn't happen things went south. If she did take her own life on his birthday, I also doubt it's coincidence.

While I don’t believe he will face legal consequences for having sex or grooming even, his career could still suffer lasting damage. That said, it wouldn’t be the first time a celebrity has gotten away with something immoral.

It seems you are mixing some stuff up. Dating a minor is NOT punishable by the law, that doesn’t mean it is morally acceptable, even if perspectives on morality vary across cultures.
It's a bit different if there is sexual intercourse:
- Sex with anyone under 13 is illegal no matter what your age
- Sex with anyone under 16 is illegal unless you are under 19
- You may have consensual sex with anyone over 16 if you are an adult

Keep in mind that this doesn't mean that he cannot be punished by the law, but this won't be as easy as some people might believe. If there are ways to prove that he was indeed grooming her, which is what most people assume happened, he could be held responsible.

Kim Sae Ron seemed to have been in love with him, often attempting to make their relationship public. However, he never acknowledged it, likely fearing backlash. Morally, many would consider this relationship wrong and most of us can agree on that.

There's nothing wrong with having preferences. If a lighter approach to a serious issue resonates more with you, that's great. However, I think you acknowledged it yourself, this issue runs deeper, and that's why a more serious tone is necessary imho. Bullying and school violence are critical problems in South Korea (and in other countries as well).

Study Group often feels like an anime. Entertaining, sure, but it lacks a real sense of danger. The exaggerated humor and over-the-top action dilute its message. A darker, more grounded portrayal, where characters face real, harrowing consequences, something that happens daily in SK, carries far more weight and impact than flashy fight scenes and comedic exaggeration. But again we're talking preferences, I am just more connected and impacted by a serious topic when it's down in a serious way, similar to The Glory in a completely different style.

While it shares some similarities, the vibe is completely different. Definitely not as Dark in this one, and not as deep and impactful as Weak Hero. It's more dumb fun and anime-like.

It’s about time! This is one of the finest dramas, tackling a crucial issue from a fresh and unique perspective, distinct from The Glory. A masterclass from the cast in a well crafted story.

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While I’m not naive enough to think it would solve everything, I firmly believe it would be a good starting point, especially since that platform wasn’t meant for gossip in the first place.

Driving under the influence isn’t just a petty scandal, it could have cost lives. We shouldn’t wait for a tragedy to happen before holding people accountable for such reckless actions.

She did get a second chance, in a way, when she returned to social media. However, falsely claiming to be a part-timer at a coffee shop wasn’t the best move. Maybe it was too early for a comeback and it definitely wasn't the way to make it. She could have done many things to prevent this sort of situation from happening to other celebrities, or she could have explained why she was going through a hard time that made her do what she did.

She was clearly struggling and made multiple mistakes that led to this situation. That doesn’t mean she deserved what happened, nor that she was solely responsible. While there may have been underlying reasons for her drinking problem, speculation without evidence isn’t helpful.

Many celebrities do get second chances in this industry, which is something people in this comment section are also criticizing, given the severity of some cases. A comeback isn’t impossible, but as a public figure, how you approach it matters.

There can be repercussions, and South Korea’s government has made several updates to its cyberbullying and harassment laws since 2015. Yet, for one reason or another, these measures don’t seem to be working—or at least not well enough. While cases involving celebrities make headlines, the situation is even worse in schools, where many students face relentless bullying daily.

It’s alarming how normalized this has become. Kim Sae Ron is just one more name on a long list of victims, and there seems to be no clear solution in sight. Everyone shifts the blame, while the government fails to take strong enough action to eliminate this behavior from society.

As for Japan, I’m less familiar with the specifics, but I know the situation can be extreme there as well.

Most reasonable people agree that it has to stop, but we are powerless.

Thank you for your clarification. More money might not have changed anything, some people earn enough that it doesn’t matter. But in the end, her career ended, and the public never forgot, so she definitely paid the price.

Celebrities shouldn’t be scrutinized so intensely, but they also have a responsibility to follow the law. It’s understandable to expect them to set an example, just not to the extreme where they can’t exist in public without fearing every word or action.

We may never know the reasons behind her actions, and unfortunately, it seems likely that history will repeat itself.

Downplaying a DUI is dangerous—it’s a leading cause of accidents, and while no one was hurt this time, it could have ended differently, especially on a busy road. It wasn’t just a bad decision; as a celebrity, the responsibility is even greater since Korean society holds them to high standards. Plus, South Korea already struggles with alcohol-related issues.

That said, did she deserve to be bullied? Absolutely not. It’s possible to acknowledge that what she did was extremely reckless while also condemning the harassment she faced. Even if she worsened the situation herself, making her life unbearable wasn’t justified. Recognizing all these aspects without downplaying any of them helps bridge understanding, no matter how extreme someone’s stance may be.

You seem very emotionally engaged in this discussion. Before attacking others, try to fully understand their points.

Which statements do you believe haven’t been verified, and why must only she confirm them when multiple parties were involved? If you're referring to the coffee company, that information came directly from them. This happened before her court appearance, seemingly to gain sympathy, but it backfired when journalists exposed her luxury assets, contradicting her claims of financial struggle. Here are some sources for reference:

- https://sports.chosun.com/entertainment/2023-03-11/202303120100086710010565
- https://sports.chosun.com/entertainment/2023-03-13/202303140100103810012432
- https://sports.khan.co.kr/article/202303141608003

I encourage you to read them.

Was this her or her agency’s decision? Hard to say, but it was a mistake. Another example is when she posted an old photo with Kim Soo Hyun, implying recent support, which led to further backlash.

Most of my statements are easily verifiable. Before engaging, I encourage fact-checking to avoid wasting time. While emotions are understandable, discussions should be reasonable. Imagine if I responded with “Is it SO hard to research before commenting for someone like YOU?” it wouldn’t feel great, right? You’re welcome to debate, but with respect, so we can focus on what qualifies as a reliable source and what went wrong.

That said, her mistakes don’t mean she deserved what happened. My point is that media and online communities amplified the issue. Korean society holds celebrities to extreme standards, where one misstep triggers mass scrutiny.

Better platform moderation and accountability could prevent this in the future. Hopefully, this clarifies my stance. If you disagree, feel free to respond—but respectfully.

Sadly this is the perfect example of the Horseshoe theory.

Tabloids spread sensitive details and misinformation for clicks and revenue, ignoring the harm they cause. They speculate recklessly, prioritizing profit over responsibility.

It's impossible to hunt down every online individual, so platforms must be held accountable. Despite South Korea's laws against cyberbullying since 2015, celebrities still tragically take their lives, proving platforms need to do more. Stricter moderation on social media, MDL, and tabloids can prevent toxic behavior and create safer spaces, removing harmful comments and issuing warnings or bans.

You mentioned being insulted—better moderation would allow you to easily report such behavior. Platforms have received offers for volunteer moderation help, something I know firsthand because I applied.

Platforms are where toxic fans spread hate. If websites controlled their content and users more effectively, these harmful communities wouldn’t thrive. It’s like inviting troublemakers to a party and complaining when they cause chaos, despite not filtering anyone.

When it comes to international fanbases, they aren’t the biggest problem for celebrities—domestic ones are. While international fans can be problematic, they can’t compare to the harassment celebrities face in their own countries. If they don’t check MDL or international sites, they’re often unaware. Being insulted, followed, and harassed in person on a daily basis is a whole different level of intrusion.

Hate spreads through tabloids and platforms. If these sites become breeding grounds for toxicity, it only worsens the issue. Addressing individual haters won’t solve anything. The real solution is controlling the platforms that allow hate to thrive. If these spaces deny haters a voice, much of the problem fades. Then, only real-world harassment remains, which is a separate issue. From there you can investigate on a case by case and prosecute them if needed.