I am so with you on this- they needed time, a good chunk of time, to make me believe that they have grown, learned…
Did someone teach you this in a theatre class...or did you just kind of make it up? If I look up "tragedy" will I find your definition in the dictionary? Wait: I just did and no, I won't.
Nice. "romanticized" is in the SJW dictionary beside "normalized," "toxic" and "consent."
Oh...OK, now you're ADDING all kinds of additional things to the mix. First you said you were depressed because one parent cheated on another. Now It's also endless divorce battles with you on the witness chair, constant screaming and fighting between your parents, physical violence against each other between your parents, and childhood beatings visited upon you as a result of one parent's anger over the other's cheating. Did I miss anything? Also you can't get therapy because you're not privileged. That's unfortunate, if any of it is true.
I told you I know all about depression, don't lecture me. I did NOT say your depression is your own fault. Nope, never said that. You said you were an asexual who is repulsed by sex and that you'll "never cheat on anyone, not even emotionally." So what the hell does that mean if you can form emotional relationships? How can you possibly know what will happen in the future? You are not some perfect saint, better than all other humans.
I asked why the hell someone who has zero interest in sex and has experienced severe trauma is doing watching BLs, which often feature aggressive and challenging, drunken sexual situations, as well as instances of cheating, both sexual and emotional. It seems like it would be a good idea for you to avoid that kind of material. Naturally, rather than answer the question you play the victim (again), claiming I am "gatekeeping" you from your entertainment choices. No, no, I'm NOT doing that; I'm asking a question and you refuse to answer.
Furthermore, you STILL have not specified which instance in TharnType included rape. Since there was no rape in TT, I'll take that as you agreeing with me.
You know, obscene name-calling doesn't really shore up your arguments, just in case you thought it did. It just makes you sound like a ranting crazy person. I think you love playing the victim. I have no way of knowing if any of what you've written is true. If it is, I am sorry for you, but watching sexy boys love shows that trigger you and make you angry at people who dare to challenge your SJW bullshit in comments isn't going to help anything.
I am so with you on this- they needed time, a good chunk of time, to make me believe that they have grown, learned…
btw, did you really say there are only two kinds of tragic endings - someone dies or someone wishes they were dead? There are no other types of tragedy or tragic endings?
It would be interesting to know WHY you hate the whole series now. But whatever. I think these two BLs are the…
You don't have to be civil on my account. I don't care if you're not. You STILL don't specify when it was that Tharn "raped" Type when he was intoxicated. Was this the hickey incident? Some other incident? If they were BOTH intoxicated then who was the rapist and who was the rapee? How would we know? How would THEY know? Why are you evading my question?
You, with your preachy talk of morals, sound like an old-fashioned church lady. How progressive of you. It's clear you are into the latest fads involving sexuality and emotional perspective..."ace-phobic." Give me a break. You are sex-phobic. And since THE VAST MAJORITY of people have and enjoy sex, that means you are most people-phobic! What in tarnation? Sir/maam, explain yourself! lol
I am so with you on this- they needed time, a good chunk of time, to make me believe that they have grown, learned…
They stood on the beach and talked in a very mature manner about that fact that NO relationship is "unshakeable," and thus they dedicated themselves to being on the watch for problems and dealing with them as they arise. That sounds more solid a foundation on which to build than 90% of relationships I know of. "Fan service." Please.
what is so mature about tolerating and defending cheating, what kind of dumbass stance is that?
I'm sorry you're dealing with heavy shit. But I certainly hope you are seeing a qualified therapist about it. There is no logical reason on Earth why you should be depressed for six years because of something one of your parents did. That is entirely self-destructive and unnecessary. Seriously, are you being counseled about this? The idea that your entire childhood was "destroyed" because a parent cheated is...first of all, really an unhealthy perspective and secondly, likely not at all true. For some reason you BELIEVE these things, but it does not mean they are fact. Do you think it's normal for the children of people who have affairs to feel as you do? If so, there are multi-millions of them out there. You are not alone.
So you think people who cheat are all entirely "bad" people with no other positive qualities whatsoever, and you put people who have extramarital affairs on the same level with serial killers. Got it. What victims? Of what? What the hell are you talking about? Oh and then you toss out that you are an asexual who is repulsed by sex and doesn't form emotional attachments. WTF? Why are you watching BLs? What possible connection can you feel toward them? They are about emotions and sexual feelings.
Cheating isn't "vile." It's human behavior and it's not a good thing, but you feel the need to label these behaviors and people who slip up as horrible, beyond redemption and forgiveness and that is YOUR problem, not mine. If you've really been depressed for six years I hope you are being treated for it. I know all about depression. I take meds and see a therapist regularly, but I try not to blame my depression on mistakes other people made that I am torturing myself about. That's some major self-destructive shit there.
STOP WATCHING BLs. Many of them involve challenging and intense sexual plot lines that it is clearly not a good idea for you to see. There are plenty of other types of fictional material out there for your entertainment where you won't encounter all this stuff you claim "triggers" you. Unless of course you...like being triggered and then bitching about it.
It would be interesting to know WHY you hate the whole series now. But whatever. I think these two BLs are the…
Their relationship was not "obliterated," at least not in the actual story. It may have been so in your head but that's your problem, not the show's. Why is cheating a "cheap plot device?" What plot device would NOT be "cheap?" There is NO plot device that hasn't been used a million times before. It is HOW it is used that makes the story containing it new and original, and IPYTM used "cheating" in a way I've never seen before. First of all, the "cheating" was involved emotions and tongues and lips. Nobody got f**ked.
TT is one of the BEST BLs there is. "Gross." lol How old are you? 12? Your use of the SJW term "toxic" is a dead give-away as to where you're coming from on all this. Your problem is with sex in general, not rape or assault, just sex in any form. You're uneasy with it; it makes you feel uncomfortable. It's messy sometimes and not easily put into neat categories. So you FORCE it into neat categories to make yourself feel more comfortable.
Naturally, you toss out the accusation that Tharn "raped" Type but of course you don't specify when this "rape" took place. Was it when Type let Tharn give him a blow job in the shower? Or was it when Tharn gave Type hickies on his neck while he was asleep to get revenge? My god, if you think hickey-giving is "rape," you are truly a humorless person.
Ha! You're about as much in the minority as it's possible to be. This sequel has been a success in every way that…
Newsflash: Forgiveness and redemption is granted to people who have been unfaithful thousands of times every single day. Not everyone is as stone-cold unforgiving and resentful as you seem to be. You also contradict yourself a couple of times in your comment, but I'll leave it to you to figure that out. Try reviewing what you've written before posting.
Why would Teh not date around or see other people, in at least an ATTEMPT to find some happiness, after Oh made…
I actually DO believe that even if Jai had said yes to Teh, that it wouldn't have been long before Teh began to realize "the one" is and always was Oh. He would find himself thinking of Oh, missing Oh, wanting to talk to Oh, all of it. And he would begin to realize how much of a user and manipulator Jai was. I don't think any of that is hard to believe.
I can't imagine BL watchers who want only "fluff" would come anywhere near either of these two masterpieces. They…
When did I say LBC or LOTL were garbage? Oh. that's right: I didn't say that.
There are many BLs I adore. Don't know why you think that because I don't care for the two SOTUS things, that I don't like BLs or something. They're pretty much my life. lol
I can't imagine BL watchers who want only "fluff" would come anywhere near either of these two masterpieces. They…
Yeah, I really loathe SOTUS and SOTUS S, even though they are the first two BLs I watched. I didn't know any better at the time, but even so, the mannequin/fake kissing and sexless, Disney-fied atmosphere of the whole thing put me off. Then I started to watch grittier, more realistic BLs and movies and I came to believe SOTUS was just that, garbage. I know lots of people love both of those shows and that's fine. I'm in a minority here and I can live with that.
no one is talking about the messages of teh, to be honest im glad he reflected on himself and realise he was the…
Oh reading those messages, and I don't think he ever had before because he feared if he did read them that he would cave and take Teh back, was such an emotional scene; Oh seeing that Teh had accepted and admitted his fault in the Jai situation was integral to them reconciling.
Q was - and he shot that down in a minute. I almost felt bad for Q.
Is there a reason why Teh's character development had to be "complete" by the end of this series? What makes you think Oh is through growing and changing? Their entire beach conversation was about how people change and become different over time, and they made a pact with each other to work on growing and changing TOGETHER. It was beautiful.
I'm just going to say it here: I really didn't want Oh-Aew to get back together with Teh. I was so proud of him…
Your idea of love is a fairy tale fantasy. IPYTM was about young lovers maturing and growing and dealing with harsh shit that goes down in real life. And after all of that, STILL loving each other. Nothing is more beautiful than that.
the only thing that ruined the season was that cheap 'cheating' storyline. if they wouldn't choose this device…
Why and in what way is emotional or physical cheating or both in a relationship a "cheap" storyline? There is NO story line that has not already been told a hundred thousand times before. It is HOW you tell the story that makes for original art. Your alternate story line sounds entirely boring as hell.
I told you I know all about depression, don't lecture me. I did NOT say your depression is your own fault. Nope, never said that. You said you were an asexual who is repulsed by sex and that you'll "never cheat on anyone, not even emotionally." So what the hell does that mean if you can form emotional relationships? How can you possibly know what will happen in the future? You are not some perfect saint, better than all other humans.
I asked why the hell someone who has zero interest in sex and has experienced severe trauma is doing watching BLs, which often feature aggressive and challenging, drunken sexual situations, as well as instances of cheating, both sexual and emotional. It seems like it would be a good idea for you to avoid that kind of material. Naturally, rather than answer the question you play the victim (again), claiming I am "gatekeeping" you from your entertainment choices. No, no, I'm NOT doing that; I'm asking a question and you refuse to answer.
Furthermore, you STILL have not specified which instance in TharnType included rape. Since there was no rape in TT, I'll take that as you agreeing with me.
You know, obscene name-calling doesn't really shore up your arguments, just in case you thought it did. It just makes you sound like a ranting crazy person. I think you love playing the victim. I have no way of knowing if any of what you've written is true. If it is, I am sorry for you, but watching sexy boys love shows that trigger you and make you angry at people who dare to challenge your SJW bullshit in comments isn't going to help anything.
Oh...you dumb clitoral-scrotum breath.
You, with your preachy talk of morals, sound like an old-fashioned church lady. How progressive of you. It's clear you are into the latest fads involving sexuality and emotional perspective..."ace-phobic." Give me a break. You are sex-phobic. And since THE VAST MAJORITY of people have and enjoy sex, that means you are most people-phobic! What in tarnation? Sir/maam, explain yourself! lol
Wow, one meets some real characters on BL boards.
So you think people who cheat are all entirely "bad" people with no other positive qualities whatsoever, and you put people who have extramarital affairs on the same level with serial killers. Got it. What victims? Of what? What the hell are you talking about? Oh and then you toss out that you are an asexual who is repulsed by sex and doesn't form emotional attachments. WTF? Why are you watching BLs? What possible connection can you feel toward them? They are about emotions and sexual feelings.
Cheating isn't "vile." It's human behavior and it's not a good thing, but you feel the need to label these behaviors and people who slip up as horrible, beyond redemption and forgiveness and that is YOUR problem, not mine. If you've really been depressed for six years I hope you are being treated for it. I know all about depression. I take meds and see a therapist regularly, but I try not to blame my depression on mistakes other people made that I am torturing myself about. That's some major self-destructive shit there.
STOP WATCHING BLs. Many of them involve challenging and intense sexual plot lines that it is clearly not a good idea for you to see. There are plenty of other types of fictional material out there for your entertainment where you won't encounter all this stuff you claim "triggers" you. Unless of course you...like being triggered and then bitching about it.
TT is one of the BEST BLs there is. "Gross." lol How old are you? 12? Your use of the SJW term "toxic" is a dead give-away as to where you're coming from on all this. Your problem is with sex in general, not rape or assault, just sex in any form. You're uneasy with it; it makes you feel uncomfortable. It's messy sometimes and not easily put into neat categories. So you FORCE it into neat categories to make yourself feel more comfortable.
Naturally, you toss out the accusation that Tharn "raped" Type but of course you don't specify when this "rape" took place. Was it when Type let Tharn give him a blow job in the shower? Or was it when Tharn gave Type hickies on his neck while he was asleep to get revenge? My god, if you think hickey-giving is "rape," you are truly a humorless person.
There are many BLs I adore. Don't know why you think that because I don't care for the two SOTUS things, that I don't like BLs or something. They're pretty much my life. lol