FrankIncese

I wasn't pointing any fingers (certainly not at you). And yes, good discussions do outweigh the bad here. But as someone who has been attacked for my views here it's just a sore spot for me. Keep doing your good work. Thanks.

Like the entire series, the finale was a bit confusing.

Vince confesses his love for David, but David only acknowledges that he accepts him for his (Bi?)sexuality and never addresses Vince's feelings. Poor (extremely cute) Vince is left broken-hearted (also... really? Sleeping with his girlfriend to express your love for him???).

World's lamest psychologist who tells him to believe in magical (hallucinated) love? And best psychological advice ever. "As long as you're happy, do it." "Curing" schizophrenia... by yourself... by taking classes and then getting stranded. Sorry, that's not the way it works.

I get the idea that since Simon is real, David wants to reconnect. But what are the chances this boatman is even gay and interested? Not sure if the translation was correct. "I want to tell him that... I found it already." Found.... love? Self-acceptance?

I guess those glances at the end are meant to imply there is hope, but it's all a little loosey goosey.

All in all, I enjoyed but felt like there was much room for improvement.

This has been a struggle from Ep 1. But Ep 12 is another mess. Script feels too loose, direction and editing are HORRIBLE. Actors are left standing around looking lost. Or quickly moving to their next mark so the shot can be staged. Amateur. Did we need a flashback of how Achilles got a ride to the hacienda??? And how was it such an important moment that it's what he remembers when he sits up in bed after (faking?) being sick? I did laugh at his line to Julio "You have a lovelife?" Nice way to introduce yourself to a stranger whom you're asking for help. And apparently they couldn't afford underwear, so they make Achilles sleep in a speedo?? Speaking of speedos... please don't put actors in swimming pools when they obviously can't swim (Julio). Plus, I did not need to see that man in tighty whities. Glad this one is almost over.

I feel like this has become a very different show from the first few episodes in so many ways. The characters don't talk the same (which would be fine if more than a few weeks had passed), they don't act the same, the writing style is different, the editing isn't as clear. Suddenly we have these long monologues and characters just spill every detail of their lives in one scene. Background characters are now taking up the majority of the storyline. Did Bart have anything to do in Ep 6? It just feels muddled and as if the creators didn't have a clear vision. Perhaps it will all come together in the end, but right now I'm losing interest fast!

Why does this room have to be toxic? Isn't the real world bad enough?

I had to drop that one so I can’t really comment

What’s bizarre to me is ... these people obviously wanted to make a gay/BL storyline yet they want to marginalize homosexuality. Sounds like they might need some therapy.

Both of them have very big careers. It may have been difficult but their talent has allowed them to become successful despite their struggles. They are both stars!

I love this series, but we need to get all the info from the series alone. Viewers should not have to read the novel unless they want to, not because there is missing information in the series. It just means the series writers did not do good enough. And again, I love this series. But it has flaws and reading the novel doesn’t fix the flaws.

I'm all for side couples. I want to see as many boys fall in love as possible. But don't wait til episode 10 to focus on their story - especially if it means that they now control more screen time than the MC. Introduce them in Ep1 and weave them into the main characters stories, so we understand how each one influences the others and how they all learn and grow by watching their friends go through similar situations. These are all supposed to be friends, and siblings and friends of siblings, so maybe put them in situations TOGETHER and let's watch multiple couples at the same time. And then rotate through all the couples A-Z so we see progress in each relationship for the entire series.

Clearly these side couples are written as separate stories - ones which might then prove which couple gets their own series. It's cost-efficient but really makes for bad story telling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgr8uKBHvk8

I just watched the entire episode there.

Creepy manager hitting on teen boys makes me wanna throw up.
I love you, Golf. Way to be mature! Calmly wish your lover happiness and leave to let him live his life. I know it's gonna change, but finally a mature decision from a BL character.
The student/tutor couple are great. Can't wait to see their careers thrive.
But felt like the swim teacher took advantage of his drunk student. I know he wanted it, but he was drunk, so that doesn't count as consent. Still wish the pacing and editing were better and there were less montages, but interested to see where this all ends up.

it's on youtube

Starting and ending at different points but still including most of the same scenes means I’ve seen 75% of this already. If they are only going to give us 25% new material, they should just make 4 eps for that new material so we don’t have to watch all the same stuff over again. I don’t judge a show on the novel. I judge it on the show. The show should stand on its own.

A beautiful series. Great character growth from 5 lead characters. An amazing performance from Tor. So heartfelt. I’d watch it again and again. Bring tissues!

Has any Thai BL writer ever had sex for the first time? There are so many conflicting emotions. Obviously as a genre, they typically are very chaste... too chaste... except when they SHOULD be. That should have been a chaste, let’s hug and get comfortable with each other, explore kissing maybe... but let’s stop without going all they until I figure this out scene.

Ton would be freaked out, scared, repulsed, excited, nervous, etc etc etc He would not just rip off his shirt and then ask for a second round. I remember crying myself to sleep after the first time. Who am I? What have I done? Does this make me a bad person? Do I deserve this love? Please, writers... use any of those notions to write a somewhat realistic character/scene.

Though they are all a bit old for college.

Loving it so far. Yes, some of the usual tropes but complex characters and rich relationships. Looking forward to the rest.

Why was Josh crying? His best friend confessed to him. Awkward, uncomfortable, sure. But tears? And in the middle of this (apparently) heart-breaking confession he just goes back to his computer... which somehow restarts, and is still connected to Max video despite a brown out?

Why was Migo crying so hard when he told Ram he loved him? Sure, repressed feelings might cause heightened emotions but these two have been getting closer every episode and already slept together. I didn’t buy the tears.

And wait... some of these people were pretending to be straight? Since when? I thought they were all gay from Ep 1, so this confusion about their sexuality is... confusing. That could be on me. This has been so boring I haven’t really been paying close attention.

I wish writers would learn that there are ways to impart grand themes and profound messages all within normal teen language. Stop making teens sound like PhD in poetry.