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On Step by Step Jul 11, 2023
Title Step by Step
A whipped Jeng is excruciating to watch. I hate how he has his tail between his legs for most of the finale while Pat remains immature and self-absorbed to the end.

I'm also not quite clear on what it was that made them finally reconcile?

Jeng's dad really is the Prince of Darkness, isn't he!

I think they could have tried a little harder to make the characters look like they truly aged. Most series do it with different hairstyles. It would have been fun seeing Jaab with short hair, although I'm sure Saint the actor would not have allowed it.

Funny observations: yet another episode where Pat has a good cry, and that advertising "awrad" on the shelf. Their English will always be lightyears better than my Thai but it still made me smile.

I'm always a generous grader but this gets 7/10. I wonder if we'll ever see these two leads in another series together. Something tells me we won't.
Replying to dtran3377 Jul 11, 2023
Title Stay with Me
From my source of information, this is definitely BL, not bromance. Making in China but airing outside of China…
The final bit of the closing credits says it's a joint production of companies in Singapore, Hong Kong, and Thailand.

Some of the external shots are Beijing and the setting is Beijing, but the external shots could be stock footage and the actual filming could have been done on a closed set anywhere in the world.

I translated the entire opening and closing credits and saw no evidence that the production was reviewed by Mainland censors and got approved. (I'm assuming that a movie or series that passes censorship displays some sort of certification during the opening or closing credits.)

The only catch is that the company that did post-production is based out of Beijing. I don't know if that alone would mean that the series would have to undergo Mainland censorship review.

Hopefully someone who knows how the censorship process works can comment about that here.
Replying to Willian9891 Jul 10, 2023
If they're up to 146+ already, this series could be in the running to surpass the number of times that Team called…
You are too funny! And you have an impressive memory!

I dug up the post. It was a statistical analysis rather than a rote counting exercise, and it arrived at a conservative estimate of the total number of "Between Us" Hia's as 1,134.

And, this was for only 9 of the episodes because for the first 3, Win and Team weren't yet a couple.
Replying to ohmohm2 Jul 10, 2023
Title Stay with Me
Gaga synopsis says they're "half" brothers?!
In the promotional slide show on their main page Gaga also says they become "100% lovers".

I assume Gaga takes an initial look at the shows they carry to make sure they're in line with the site's mission, so it's possible that "100% lovers" is what we'll get, but on the other hand I can't be sure that the person who did the web marketing would have the same insight into the plot.

As for "half brothers", that could be true only in two ways.

The first would be if Wu Bi's mom had had an affair with Su Yu's dad and got pregnant by him. Hardly seems likely.

But, if Su Yu's mom was having an affair with Wu Bi's dad long before they dated and got married, and if she got pregnant with Su Yu as a result, then maybe we're in for a surprise twist that will make this comment section blow up like crazy.
Replying to Crimson moon Jul 10, 2023
Title Stay with Me
I've just binge watched the 4 episodes and this show is great on its own(when u don't consider the original "addicted).My…
I watched the first six episodes of "Addicted" yesterday and the biggest thing that stood out was how different Wu Bi's characterization is from Gu Hai's.

Wu Bi's tough exterior is much easier to get past than Gu Hai's, and his focus is not on his dad's betrayal of his deceased mother but on the absence of his mother. He's had several years to adjust, but he hasn't. The statue that was her last work of sculpture is like a talisman that he keeps with him in her memory, so when he realizes who Su Yu is, it shakes him to his core. He immediately stops bullying Su Yu and becomes permanently attached.

In "Addicted" there is no statue, and there's no other object that serves as its counterpart. Gu Hai doesn't show any emotional after-effects of losing his mother. He's protective of her memory but I get the sense that this is to punish his dad. There's the implication that she died because his dad had her killed.

So, the two series are so different in how they approach the story that I think anyone who skips this one out of anger that it's not the original is really missing out.

"Addicted" will never be remade or continued using the same cast and crew. People need to get this into their heads and accept it, and be glad that someone else is at least trying to bring the story to life in a fully conceived form. Personally I'm loving it so far.
Replying to Willian9891 Jul 10, 2023
I had to look on the top of the page to make sure I was in the right series. 😬By the comments over this last…
I think it's dropped way lower than "Fahlanruk" and is now in "My Boy" territory.

A suicide attempt and attempted sexual assault in one episode, which includes a scene where the assaulter gets comforted by his manager(?) while we hear tender soundtrack music playing.
Replying to FreshKicks Jul 9, 2023
Title Stay with Me
It might be the translation. The line is subtitled that way on Viki. The subs on Gaga have the dialog as "How…
Thank you!
Replying to lynmac55 Jul 9, 2023
Title Stay with Me
They obviously don't want to upset the censors. Notice in ep 4 at 19:18 they call Taiwan "Taiwan province , China",…
It might be the translation. The line is subtitled that way on Viki. The subs on Gaga have the dialog as "How are things with the Taiwanese girl?".

We need someone who knows the language to tell us which is closest to what is actually spoken. :)
Replying to OstentatiousOrchid Jul 9, 2023
Title Stay with Me Spoiler
The flirtation is there and there are coded words used. I can see how things in episodes 1-4 would have gone over…
No, you're not overthinking.

My other favorite moment was when Su Yu introduces Han Bokuang to Wu Bi as his childhood friend. The other friend (forgot his name) says that the two are like "peas in a pod" (in the Viki translation he says they're like brothers), and a scowling Wu Bi immediately drags Han Bokuang out to the field to do some judo to him.

This version of the story seems to be setting up Wu Bi's issue as being a hunger for family rather than a lover, but the conversation about bullying really makes me pause, as do the lyrics of the opening OST.
Replying to Maggi64 Jul 8, 2023
Title Stay with Me Spoiler
As for my comments on class disparity, I think this show handled it better than "Addicted." In that show, Gu Ha…
Oh.. in that case I yield to you on this. But Wu Bi wouldn't know he'd been discovered by that point, so felt it would be necessary to tell Su Yu's dad to keep it a secret.
On Stay with Me Jul 8, 2023
Title Stay with Me
A gentle reminder that the tags on MDL are voted on by the membership, so you should not interpret them as etched in stone by the series producers. Everybody started out assuming this is a Mainland series subject to censorship, whereas it comes from Hong Kong/Singapore/Thailand.
Replying to sindrandi_ Jul 8, 2023
Title Stay with Me
I'm actually enjoying this one. The 4.000 bodyguards materializing at just the right moment in episode 4. 😂😂
And all dressed head to toe in black, no less. 😆
Replying to Maggi64 Jul 8, 2023
Title Stay with Me Spoiler
As for my comments on class disparity, I think this show handled it better than "Addicted." In that show, Gu Ha…
I think when Su Yu made the comment about Wu Bi being a rich kid it was sarcasm, more along the lines of "what's your problem, do you think you're a rich kid or something?"
Replying to Maggi64 Jul 8, 2023
Title Stay with Me
How come nobody's talking about that little kid screaming and crying All Day Long in front of Su Yu's house? Or…
OMG OMG, what a waste of screen time that was.
Replying to YourCuteOppa Jul 8, 2023
SW doesn't give a damn about SH, he just doing his revange, only because JS rejected and put him in his place…
Why would JS have any reason to "reject" SW? SW is not interested in JS. What JS did was get mad because he has competition and feels at a disadvantage. So he lashed out. In the long run that kind of attitude is a turn-off.

JS is missing out on the full experience of the house by being singularly obsessed with SH. Which is unkind to SH because it puts a lot of pressure on him. It wouldn't surprise me if SH never makes a decision between SW and JS because he prefers SW and doesn't want to be responsible for JS having an emotional collapse over not prevailing. This says a lot about JS's selfishness. He should do like SW and let SH know of his interest, then back off a bit to let SH decide.

But, none of these relationships is likely to persist after the series anyway. It's essentially an experimental ecosystem for dating, surfacing all sorts of interesting dynamics and behavior, but due to the tiny pool of candidates the likelihood of any two guys lasting as a couple outside the house is extremely small. (This seems to apply to all dating shows.)
On Stay with Me Jul 8, 2023
Title Stay with Me
This is spectacular. Being a big fan of "Youth With You S3", I get a kick out of seeing Xu Bin as one of the leads.

My only gripe is that it's dubbed. The first couple of episodes did mostly a good job hiding it but in Ep3 and Ep4 it's more obvious.

One thing I hate about dubbed productions is that they often have grown women dub the voices of the little girls and even the little boys. It sounds so bad. Here, I think sometimes we're hearing Duo Duo with her real voice but I detected the fake voice at a couple of points. It makes me cringe.

"Addicted" has so much sexual content and innuendo, including comments about Gu Hai's (ahem) endowment, that I think it will take some work to have this avoid being BL. What's cool is that I like it so much that I won't care, provided we get a happy ending.
On Stay with Me Jul 8, 2023
Title Stay with Me
To wade further into the "Is it a BL?" debate, the last part of the closing credits says it's a joint production by three companies based out of Singapore, Hong Kong, and Thailand.

People have said the series is not showing in China, and if Hong Kong productions don't have to undergo the same censorship review as Mainland productions then we might get a more intimate story after all.
Replying to MariyamTouali Jul 6, 2023
Title Sparks Camp
Where else can we watch it, I need it in English right now
The episode is subbed on YouTube now. :)