Yes, I agree - it would be nice to see King help Burger with self esteem issues, even if they donβt end up together…
I rewatched the opening of the first episode and saw that the dead kid was not Matteo. He has a couple of hoop piercings at the top of his right ear, through the cartilage. So, it's probably a character we haven't met yet.
I could watch King flirt with Burger for an entire series. That kid's got game. I think Newyear is the best actor of the bunch, too.
I wonder if King will somehow win Burger over? I like how the mixup was explained by the end of the episode. I also like how Burger had a chance to express the ways in which he feels inferior to both King and Ink. That was so poignant. It would be nice to see King get closer to him and help to turn that around.
I know we're supposed to hate Ken, but he's got that "sinister but sexy" thing going on and I'm a sucker for that (at least in a drama -- wouldn't want to date someone like that in real life, thank you.)
What doesn't work, though, is the height difference between Ken and Shokun. When Ken's trying to bully him, Shokun towers over him and could probably deck him with a single punch.
The murder mystery seems completely unnecessary. Given how that last scene went, though, I'm wondering if the dead kid is Matteo.
If Fourth turned 18 by the time they filmed the later episodes then maybe we'll get a romantic kiss. So, I hope…
If he was still 17 during filming then I don't think a romantic kiss would be allowed. He turned 18 last October 18, so hopefully they filmed the final episodes after that.
Yβall KNOW that our baby Gun is emotional at the end not because of the competition but because Tinn reeled…
If Fourth turned 18 by the time they filmed the later episodes then maybe we'll get a romantic kiss.
So, I hope production wrapped sometime after October 18th last year. πππ
(I should say that Tinn's comment about the kind of kiss Gun will get if he wins the competition has certainly raised expectations ... unless the outcome will be that they lose. π’ )
It says a lot for this series that the only plot flaw I've detected so far is Tinn's mom hearing his excuse about pouring rain outside and not calling him on it.
She'd just been running around outdoors looking for him!
So, I thank the writers for knowing what matters as they let the story play out, because of course we'd rather hear Tinn and Gun's conversation by the pool in addition to the bonus of seeing them shirtless. (Sorry, I'm shallow like that.)
i have to comment immediately after watching the ep cause that's a lot of feels !!! i must say kudos to tinn for…
That was a shining moment in drama history for me as well.
Every other damn series would have had Tinn withhold that info, then while performing Gun would react and stumble with his singing until Tinn finally showed up in the audience.
It's such a better approach to have Gun accept that Tinn can't be there then be delighted that he shows up instead of just relieved.
I'm a recovered Christian and can relate to Yoo Han's predicament. I tried to pray the gay away but found my true salvation in college, where I faced up to who I am.
The story is light on character detail and we can only go with that they show, and Joo Won seems selfish and predatory.
He got the gay vibe from Yoo Han from the very first day, then wormed his way into the Bible study so he could case things out a little more. What made me feel really bad it is how Joo Won learned about Yoo Han's parents being dead and, after not offering any words of condolence, came up with the lame excuse of retrieving his Bible (how do you leave your Bible behind at a Bible study where your Bible is the only thing you showed up with?) to go in for the kill. As soon as he started talking about being too hot and sweaty I knew where that was going.
He did so much damage in such a short time. I'm glad I didn't meet someone like him when I was in my Christian Delusion phase.
Tul more or less saved Waan's life but nobody in that family acknowledges it or thanks him.
A word I will be fine with never hearing again: "Hia". In this series it's like the Thai version of a frat boy addressing someone as "Bro" ever few seconds.
I finally got caught up on this. Hei Yi's "revelation" moment was so well done! But instead of trying to trying to keep Johnny from returning to his own era, Hei Yi should just go back with him.
I also like the insights into Hei Yi's true identity. And we can be sure his evil ex is not done trying to stir up trouble.
I've finally started watching this...and I want to like it....but the way the CHARACTER (Thi) is portrayed is…
When I started the series, Thi's personality really pushed me to the limit. But after a few episodes he settles into a sweet guy who doesn't act like he's being electrocuted all the time.
What I like about that is it shows that his time with Noey doesn't just change Noey for the better, it changes Thi as well ... which is what I think should happen in a healthy relationship.
The way couples gush over wanting a "perfect wedding" has always seemed stupid to me. There are entire movies and reality series centered around brides who are obsessed with having every last thing planned to excruciating (and expensive) detail, modeling an impossible ideal for everyday real people.
Now here's this entire BL series built around the same theme. I guess Mandee views having a super-expensive, millionaire-class ceremony for two men as a political statement about gay marriage. The guys fuss about the flowers and the colors of their tuxes, and fret about the weather forecast. Only a straight screenwriter could come up with such an absurd leap of logic.
Meanwhile, Nuer and Syn's big moment is played for laughs, and during the scene where most of the group gets the update from Foei on all the things that have gone wrong with the planning, Nuer and Syn are seated at a separate table in the background and left out entirely. It's a symbolic statement befitting their status in the series overall, and sadly hints that Mandee hasn't realized how so many viewers have responded positively to their storyline.
I actually think it would be better if you didn't see Season One, since this season turns one of the characters…
It would have been a fine series if it hadn't used the same characters.
At the time it aired I wrote thousands of words about that on this page, as well as posted a lengthy review, and made the inconsistency my central thesis. Nowhere did I lament the lack of fluff. (There's actually plenty of that in the last two episodes -- more than we got in Season One. But I view the fluff in this series is a last-minute reversal by a director who lost her nerve. Which I also say in the review I wrote a long time ago.)
So, your sense of character "complexity" is my sense of character inconsistency. We will apparently never agree on that.
But I don't know why my opinion threatens you to the point that you would respond so angrily. I don't hate you for loving the series. Please don't write hateful things at me for not liking it. I came to my opinion sincerely, after watching the whole thing.
I could watch King flirt with Burger for an entire series. That kid's got game. I think Newyear is the best actor of the bunch, too.
I wonder if King will somehow win Burger over? I like how the mixup was explained by the end of the episode. I also like how Burger had a chance to express the ways in which he feels inferior to both King and Ink. That was so poignant. It would be nice to see King get closer to him and help to turn that around.
I know we're supposed to hate Ken, but he's got that "sinister but sexy" thing going on and I'm a sucker for that (at least in a drama -- wouldn't want to date someone like that in real life, thank you.)
What doesn't work, though, is the height difference between Ken and Shokun. When Ken's trying to bully him, Shokun towers over him and could probably deck him with a single punch.
The murder mystery seems completely unnecessary. Given how that last scene went, though, I'm wondering if the dead kid is Matteo.
So, I hope production wrapped sometime after October 18th last year. πππ
(I should say that Tinn's comment about the kind of kiss Gun will get if he wins the competition has certainly raised expectations ... unless the outcome will be that they lose. π’ )
She'd just been running around outdoors looking for him!
So, I thank the writers for knowing what matters as they let the story play out, because of course we'd rather hear Tinn and Gun's conversation by the pool in addition to the bonus of seeing them shirtless. (Sorry, I'm shallow like that.)
Every other damn series would have had Tinn withhold that info, then while performing Gun would react and stumble with his singing until Tinn finally showed up in the audience.
It's such a better approach to have Gun accept that Tinn can't be there then be delighted that he shows up instead of just relieved.
The story is light on character detail and we can only go with that they show, and Joo Won seems selfish and predatory.
He got the gay vibe from Yoo Han from the very first day, then wormed his way into the Bible study so he could case things out a little more. What made me feel really bad it is how Joo Won learned about Yoo Han's parents being dead and, after not offering any words of condolence, came up with the lame excuse of retrieving his Bible (how do you leave your Bible behind at a Bible study where your Bible is the only thing you showed up with?) to go in for the kill. As soon as he started talking about being too hot and sweaty I knew where that was going.
He did so much damage in such a short time. I'm glad I didn't meet someone like him when I was in my Christian Delusion phase.
A word I will be fine with never hearing again: "Hia". In this series it's like the Thai version of a frat boy addressing someone as "Bro" ever few seconds.
I also like the insights into Hei Yi's true identity. And we can be sure his evil ex is not done trying to stir up trouble.
The series has gotten interesting at last.
What I like about that is it shows that his time with Noey doesn't just change Noey for the better, it changes Thi as well ... which is what I think should happen in a healthy relationship.
Now here's this entire BL series built around the same theme. I guess Mandee views having a super-expensive, millionaire-class ceremony for two men as a political statement about gay marriage. The guys fuss about the flowers and the colors of their tuxes, and fret about the weather forecast. Only a straight screenwriter could come up with such an absurd leap of logic.
Meanwhile, Nuer and Syn's big moment is played for laughs, and during the scene where most of the group gets the update from Foei on all the things that have gone wrong with the planning, Nuer and Syn are seated at a separate table in the background and left out entirely. It's a symbolic statement befitting their status in the series overall, and sadly hints that Mandee hasn't realized how so many viewers have responded positively to their storyline.
At the time it aired I wrote thousands of words about that on this page, as well as posted a lengthy review, and made the inconsistency my central thesis. Nowhere did I lament the lack of fluff. (There's actually plenty of that in the last two episodes -- more than we got in Season One. But I view the fluff in this series is a last-minute reversal by a director who lost her nerve. Which I also say in the review I wrote a long time ago.)
So, your sense of character "complexity" is my sense of character inconsistency. We will apparently never agree on that.
But I don't know why my opinion threatens you to the point that you would respond so angrily. I don't hate you for loving the series. Please don't write hateful things at me for not liking it. I came to my opinion sincerely, after watching the whole thing.