Oh gosh, this is a really cute series for in between. I was a little confused at the beginning because I thought the roles were reversed, but the cast as a whole is very likeable. I'll leave the claim to reality out of it. The chemistry is right and Xiao Bai's smile is beautiful. I love people who have an engaging smile. Xiao Bai's actually reminds me of Khaotung. But maybe that's just my perception...
I actually find years of very close friendships more important than the person I'm just starting to date. Friends…
Mmhmm, I understand better now what you're trying to say. I've now watched the first episode again so I don't write anything wrong. Maybe first of all: I can totally understand Min's reaction too and after re-watching, he also asked Jin what was going on before he left. Jin said a friend needed him and it was urgent. Which is a bit strange because Min already knows U Hyeok at this point and Jin could explain everything in two sentences. However, we don't know at this point why they are meeting the next day, there is no mention of the “girl” at the meeting. Jin says to his friend: Of course you're coming, because of me.... I think we will find out the resolution of the situation in the next episode as Min meets U Hyeok.
As far as the phone call is concerned, I see things a little differently. Jin apparently assumes that Min is asleep. When U Hyeok calls, he goes out, which is rather considerate in my eyes, as he might not want to be loud next to the sleeping Min and wake him up. I see that as a positive thing. I also don't think it's a bad thing that he takes the phone call. I mean, they weren't in the middle of the action and who knows how long Jin watched Min sleep. If my best friend called me at night, I'd pick up the phone too, because something could have happened. Jin doesn't know what the conversation is about at the time. What irritated me when I watched it again, though, is that Jin didn't talk about a girl in the first episode when he was on the phone, but always used “he” (“I did him a few favors”). I don't know if it's just a translation error on Viki's part in the first or last episode or if we hear what Min perceived in the first episode (which may not have been the whole truth) and how the phone call really went down in the last episode.
I definitely agree with you that Jin shouldn't have left Min in the apartment the next day without a proper explanation and as I said, from Min's perspective I can understand all the reactions, including “I interpret something in situations that may not correspond to reality, I think a lot and relate everything to myself”. However, I also somehow get the impression that we as viewers don't know the whole situation yet. We are missing the U Hyeok perspective. What was so urgent that they met the next day? What was the phone call in the morning about? As far as I can tell, the next day was not about the meeting with the woman/man. I think something must have happened to U Hyeok or he did Jin a favor to benefit Min. But that's pure speculation.
I don't know, even though I love Korean BL in general, this show tired me out after the second episode. It's just…
I actually find years of very close friendships more important than the person I'm just starting to date. Friends are family who stick with you through thick and thin and look after each other. I would never put them on the back burner, especially at the beginning of a relationship that hasn't even been finalised yet.
And if you don't have the ability to communicate, you can't resolve the issue in 2 minutes. Min is a total avoider, he wasn't even able to resolve this conflict. Even after 8 years, he still avoids the whole thing.
I often read in the comments here why they are not already back together and why the misunderstandings are still not resolved... Both characters were deeply hurt, have different perceptions and have been carrying this pain around with them for 8 years and suddenly they meet and at least one of them has to face the issue involuntarily. That has to be processed first. Such situations are not resolved after one conversation and then you have to also sort out your feelings. The whole thing is a deep examination of your own character and behaviour. I actually find the pace very realistic.
Oh, I'm so pleased that he's so fully booked :) I don't know the story, so I can't name a suitable actress. But I would love to see him with Soo Young, Im Ji Yeon or Jo Bo Ah one day.
Thank you for your participation, dear friend Yes, I also agree with your opinion, unbiased voting based only…
Oh yes, I like it a lot as it's a vote for artistic detail. These are often enough overlooked, even though they are artistically valuable. So thank you dear for your eye for such details 🫰
SPOTV reported that Disney+ #KnockOff production team recently notified the cast and staff of the indefinite filming…
That was the only expected decision. Besides all the accusations, KSH's fans are actively contributing to Knock Off becoming unacceptable with KSH in the cast through their actions. So what production company would continue to take this risk? Nor can Disney bring Knock Off to the market under these circumstances.
I was once given the advice: ‘If someone is “too”, i.e. too nice, too perfect, then be on your guard’. - This seems to be confirmed here once again... Maybe it's just my assumption, but has anyone here ever asked themselves how Tara could become the boss of the vampires? In my eyes, she has already tasted Golden Blood once...
guys I've never watched a bl, do you recommend this one as first?
My suggestions for BL to get started, divided by country, by school setting (S), university setting (U) or adult/work setting (W)
Korea: - Where your eyes linger (S) - Semantic Error (U) - Our Dating Sim (W) - Cherry Blossoms After Winter (S) - The Eighth Sense (U)
Taiwan: - We Best Love No 1 (U) - We Best Love No 2 (W) - Plus Minus (W) - History 3: Trapped (W) - My Tooth Your Love (W) - The On1y One (S) - Attention, the series is unfinished and therefore without ending - DNA Says Love You (W)
Thailand: - ThamePo (W) - A Tale of Thousand Stars (W) - Only Boo! (S) - The Eclipes (S) - Love Mechanics (U) - Watch the version from 2022 - My School President (S) - We Are (U) - Cutie Pie (W) - Love in The Air (U) - Bad Buddy (U) - Moonlight Chicken (W) - Wandee Goodday (W) - Jack and Joker (W) - Cherry Magic (W)
Japan: - Cherry Magic (W) - Love is better the second time around (W) - Ameiro- Paradoxon (W) - Bokura no Shokutaku (W) - Old Fashion Cupcake (W) - Kieta Hatsukoi (S)
Perhaps ThamePo is particularly well suited because it's well produced, not too spicy but not without spice either, and has likable MLs who are both green flags. Currently still airing is My Golden Blood, which is also good so far.
BLs that I think you should watch because they either stand out and are some of the best, but not as beginning:
I Told Sunset About You, The Sign, KinnPorsche, Century of Love, Top Form, Between Us, Love in The Big City (LGBTQ+ Drama, actually no BL), Last Twilight, Manner of Death, 4Minutes, Only Friends
spicy ones: Top Form, Only Friends, KinnPorsche, 4Minutes, Love in The Air
I haven't seen it myself yet, but it was recommended to me: The Untamed, Triage, Not me
I don't know. I didn't even know that a live action was planned 😅 But I saw Sun Jin Wu's voice actor, Aleks Le, and he could also mime him in live action.
guys I've never watched a bl, do you recommend this one as first?
What do you feel like? Rather light entertainment to get you started? Do you want to laugh or experience deeper, more serious feelings? How spicy can it be? Would you rather see more adult themes or a university plot? Depending on that, I could give you my suggestions. I could imagine “A tale of 1000 stars” as a starter. I love “I Told Sunset About You”, but I wouldn't see it as the first BL to watch. Oh yes, and I wouldn't recommend History 4 either. At least I found it disturbing.
Fr cause a 7.4 rating???Thing with Thai bls/gmmtv is the permanent Paired actors,the ships.So when people like…
Yes, I wonder that too. I'm also pinning my hopes on ‘The next prince’ or ‘The Red Envelope’ and ‘Revamp’. Although with Revamp I'm worried that GMMTV will ‘press it back into shape’.
Fr cause a 7.4 rating???Thing with Thai bls/gmmtv is the permanent Paired actors,the ships.So when people like…
I absolutely agree with you.
I think it would be better to find suitable actors for suitable roles in order to get the best out of a series. On the other hand, I also think that it might be easier for the actors to film intimate scenes with a known partner. But selling ships brings in money. In my opinion, the actors are the losers in various ways. Ultimately, they are restricted in their development, in their artistic work and not least in their private lives. BL fandoms are some of the most toxic fans I've ever seen. Assaultive, totally self-centred and sometimes dangerous. Not all of them, of course. However, when I see what the actors often have to endure and their private happiness is not granted to them, I think it would be the producers' duty of care to stop using ships.
What I also realise, and I'm happy to be proven wrong, is that there are also such things as ‘fandom wars’. If I may call it that. Then currently broadcast BL series are deliberately devalued. Be it to make the series of their own ship look better or to show their dislike for the actors.The main thing is that a good BL doesn't stand out too much (in their eyes). On the other hand, it's not always the best BLs that get the best ratings here. Because fandoms also push their ships up in the ratings. It's a shame that good stories can't simply stand side by side on an equal footing.
I also agree with you about quantity/quality. The series often seem generic, no matter what topic is taken up, the series is built up according to a pattern. This has brought success in its own way, but in the long run it becomes increasingly boring.
For me, Top Form is currently the only Thai production that stands out and shines for me. On the one hand, this is certainly due to the fact that the underlying story was mega successful as an anime. But you can also tell that fresh minds were at work here. Good scriptwriters, a good director whose first work is the series, the casting of the right cast and the involvement of an intimacy coordinator. In my eyes, there is great potential here.
I have a stupid question, is Jin an angel or something? I keep picturing the wings.
No, that comes from the anime, indicates when he is happy and also points to Jin's top name in the anime. There, Akin doesn't call him ‘Wooden Boy’ but ‘Insatiable Angel’.
No, not at all. It's a solid BL with a familiar theme. I.e. nothing extraordinary so far, but it's still worth watching.
The first two episodes are from the point of view of an ML, which I think also factored into the ratings. I thought Episode 3 was the best so far. Because you learn how different perceptions and perspectives on a situation can be.
In my eyes, the release interval also contributes to the lower rating. With only one fairly short episode per week, the story just progresses more slowly. There are only 3 episodes out so far. I would say that especially after episode 3, the rating should be around 8/10.
I think we will find out the resolution of the situation in the next episode as Min meets U Hyeok.
As far as the phone call is concerned, I see things a little differently. Jin apparently assumes that Min is asleep. When U Hyeok calls, he goes out, which is rather considerate in my eyes, as he might not want to be loud next to the sleeping Min and wake him up. I see that as a positive thing. I also don't think it's a bad thing that he takes the phone call. I mean, they weren't in the middle of the action and who knows how long Jin watched Min sleep. If my best friend called me at night, I'd pick up the phone too, because something could have happened. Jin doesn't know what the conversation is about at the time. What irritated me when I watched it again, though, is that Jin didn't talk about a girl in the first episode when he was on the phone, but always used “he” (“I did him a few favors”). I don't know if it's just a translation error on Viki's part in the first or last episode or if we hear what Min perceived in the first episode (which may not have been the whole truth) and how the phone call really went down in the last episode.
I definitely agree with you that Jin shouldn't have left Min in the apartment the next day without a proper explanation and as I said, from Min's perspective I can understand all the reactions, including “I interpret something in situations that may not correspond to reality, I think a lot and relate everything to myself”. However, I also somehow get the impression that we as viewers don't know the whole situation yet. We are missing the U Hyeok perspective. What was so urgent that they met the next day? What was the phone call in the morning about? As far as I can tell, the next day was not about the meeting with the woman/man. I think something must have happened to U Hyeok or he did Jin a favor to benefit Min. But that's pure speculation.
And if you don't have the ability to communicate, you can't resolve the issue in 2 minutes. Min is a total avoider, he wasn't even able to resolve this conflict. Even after 8 years, he still avoids the whole thing.
The posters of the Chinese dramas are in a class of their own.
My choice:
1) Moonlight Mystique
2) Perpetual Night
3) Shadow Love
4) Allure of the Sirene
5) Take Me Where the Clouds Rise
Korea:
- Where your eyes linger (S)
- Semantic Error (U)
- Our Dating Sim (W)
- Cherry Blossoms After Winter (S)
- The Eighth Sense (U)
Taiwan:
- We Best Love No 1 (U)
- We Best Love No 2 (W)
- Plus Minus (W)
- History 3: Trapped (W)
- My Tooth Your Love (W)
- The On1y One (S) - Attention, the series is unfinished and therefore without ending
- DNA Says Love You (W)
Thailand:
- ThamePo (W)
- A Tale of Thousand Stars (W)
- Only Boo! (S)
- The Eclipes (S)
- Love Mechanics (U) - Watch the version from 2022
- My School President (S)
- We Are (U)
- Cutie Pie (W)
- Love in The Air (U)
- Bad Buddy (U)
- Moonlight Chicken (W)
- Wandee Goodday (W)
- Jack and Joker (W)
- Cherry Magic (W)
Japan:
- Cherry Magic (W)
- Love is better the second time around (W)
- Ameiro- Paradoxon (W)
- Bokura no Shokutaku (W)
- Old Fashion Cupcake (W)
- Kieta Hatsukoi (S)
Perhaps ThamePo is particularly well suited because it's well produced, not too spicy but not without spice either, and has likable MLs who are both green flags. Currently still airing is My Golden Blood, which is also good so far.
BLs that I think you should watch because they either stand out and are some of the best, but not as beginning:
I Told Sunset About You, The Sign, KinnPorsche, Century of Love, Top Form, Between Us, Love in The Big City (LGBTQ+ Drama, actually no BL), Last Twilight, Manner of Death, 4Minutes, Only Friends
spicy ones: Top Form, Only Friends, KinnPorsche, 4Minutes, Love in The Air
I haven't seen it myself yet, but it was recommended to me: The Untamed, Triage, Not me
But I saw Sun Jin Wu's voice actor, Aleks Le, and he could also mime him in live action.
Depending on that, I could give you my suggestions.
I could imagine “A tale of 1000 stars” as a starter. I love “I Told Sunset About You”, but I wouldn't see it as the first BL to watch. Oh yes, and I wouldn't recommend History 4 either. At least I found it disturbing.
I think it would be better to find suitable actors for suitable roles in order to get the best out of a series. On the other hand, I also think that it might be easier for the actors to film intimate scenes with a known partner.
But selling ships brings in money. In my opinion, the actors are the losers in various ways. Ultimately, they are restricted in their development, in their artistic work and not least in their private lives. BL fandoms are some of the most toxic fans I've ever seen. Assaultive, totally self-centred and sometimes dangerous. Not all of them, of course. However, when I see what the actors often have to endure and their private happiness is not granted to them, I think it would be the producers' duty of care to stop using ships.
What I also realise, and I'm happy to be proven wrong, is that there are also such things as ‘fandom wars’. If I may call it that. Then currently broadcast BL series are deliberately devalued. Be it to make the series of their own ship look better or to show their dislike for the actors.The main thing is that a good BL doesn't stand out too much (in their eyes). On the other hand, it's not always the best BLs that get the best ratings here. Because fandoms also push their ships up in the ratings. It's a shame that good stories can't simply stand side by side on an equal footing.
I also agree with you about quantity/quality. The series often seem generic, no matter what topic is taken up, the series is built up according to a pattern. This has brought success in its own way, but in the long run it becomes increasingly boring.
For me, Top Form is currently the only Thai production that stands out and shines for me. On the one hand, this is certainly due to the fact that the underlying story was mega successful as an anime. But you can also tell that fresh minds were at work here. Good scriptwriters, a good director whose first work is the series, the casting of the right cast and the involvement of an intimacy coordinator. In my eyes, there is great potential here.
It's a solid BL with a familiar theme. I.e. nothing extraordinary so far, but it's still worth watching.
The first two episodes are from the point of view of an ML, which I think also factored into the ratings. I thought Episode 3 was the best so far. Because you learn how different perceptions and perspectives on a situation can be.
In my eyes, the release interval also contributes to the lower rating. With only one fairly short episode per week, the story just progresses more slowly. There are only 3 episodes out so far. I would say that especially after episode 3, the rating should be around 8/10.