The drama is about redemption, so the Master (and the victim Mr Wu) agreed to let a way out for LiQuan to change.…
LQ agreeing without hesitation to follow Master Ren into the Wuhan inferno and shouldering tasks there with him is action enough. Even if they "did not know what kind of epidemic was at hand", everyone in China remembers the SARS years, so epidemics are not treated lightly. Usually, when it is bird flu, the quarter where it appeared is speedily confined. There, it was clear that it could be worse than bird flu, which is already deadly quite often when it infects humans. Also I am not sure but wasn't it LQ who warned the family that Master Ren was sick, triggering his wife into coming as reinforcement ? As for TT, yes, perhaps LQ should have said something. Perhaps he did and that may be why TT seems so comfortable after the one year elapsed (shown with the Solar Terms succession), that he will not attack her position any longer out of jealousy. Taking a second chance at matrimony with her friend who now believes LQ has shown his reliability, is also a sign that he has chosen the Daoist "path" of the good guy, if still somewhat diffidently searching for his place, henceforth. The blessings and retribution recitation shows the grounding of the TCM sect in the Daoist philosophy and religion. i put some notes about that in the Discussion section which you can look up if you are interested. My feeling :) I don't really have a soft spot for the sly individual, but he looked more honest and useful after the Wuhan ordeal.
people have to pay to get the episodes so capitalism is your answer 🤣
It's over next Wednesday, anyway. I am not in that much of a hurry either, despite I don't dislike Wu Qian who is very beautiful in this drama. Of course, I like Zhang Binbin who is quite the idol now, and I thought it was funny that he made good on his promise to jump into the sea if the drama got "28,000 popularity index" which it did. Enjoying the show sedately, and happy that it was crowned as top one for past week in the Chinese web-drama category by V linkage ranking research company (while GenZ Houlang was crowned for TV series).
So righteous an opinion ! well, that's on you, a bit nearsighted, in my opinion.Master Ren is not an ordinary…
It is a possibility too ; but I think Master Ren was quite observant and would have noticed after TT saving his son's life and staying together in the village...
You meant "my child's mom" ? I know a couple who did that in real life, while the future mom was sick in hospital,…
Don't worry, things happen in the heat of the action, lol It was clear enough that this was what had happened :) You also forgot to erase the mysterious "I missed a to"
He wanted to kill himself by jumping into river. So, master ren gave him second chance by lending him the money…
Mr Ren had gotten a huge (sum undisclosed) grant from the foreign patient, if you remember? No need any longer to worry about how to make ends meet. Plus he had agreed with Mr Wu about finding a way to redress LQ, and Mr Wu was not a pauper. A jail sentence would have made the story drag too long anyway.
I ended up giving this a 9 and the reason being is the acting. The acting alone is what sold the whole story.To…
You can put this in Review? it is a bit spoiler-ish, but I agree with you generally. Still, because of the way things turned out in the end tying some loose ends together and even making good use of the Meng Meng arc (over long, and based on a bad premise, I agree), I put this drama in the top ones for ZLS. About the Solar Terms in the last episode, I liked that they showed the way over a year had passed after the previous events. It was a nice reminder, not that long, and in the calendar order, whereas some Solar Terms had been dropped before. I found the drama nicely instructive and satisfying, also because I was not looking for torrid romance The Forbidden Flower style. Toutou and Tianzhen are one of those nice couples one might meet who don't flaunt their feelings overmuch. Their chemistry is okay and the dancing/ celebration did not feel weird to me, but a nice change from the expected tropes of proposals and grand wedding. LQ story served as one more example of the redeeming purpose in the drama. The "lies" were so outlandish that they clearly to me, were a test of some sort, to be viewed as allegorical and I was happy to find that my hunch was right. Perhaps it could have been written differently, but then perhaps it would have been bland and boring, humdrum, to me.
Lemme tell you an unpopular opinion. RXZ may be a great doctor, a good teacher. But he is an irresponsible father,…
So righteous an opinion ! well, that's on you, a bit nearsighted, in my opinion.
Master Ren is not an ordinary man, that's for sure, and his ways are sometimes inscrutable. He is an avowed sect leader. The wife accepted the full package as a thorny way to sainthood. The son was never abandoned and got enough education and money. None of them, elders and disciples included, ever starved. They all put themselves second to the service of the people's health.
The story is not an example to follow blindly by lesser humans who are prone to be tempted to enter debt or worse when they go about launching a random business.
Lies hurting your family : you mean his telling everyone that TT was his daughter ? As all those who knew him thought, this was probably (and was) a test of their sound judgement and confidence in the path they had chosen with him. In fact he did not even lie, since TT was already his daughter in law in his mind! Or the outlandish story of the 300 year tile? This was clearly an allegory for "they would do their utmost and try even the impossible" to help the hopeless one. Making it so that time would heal the mind's wound, which was more important than the physical injury. Even modern science recognizes and uses the placebo effect.
Don't think it's just OK to conclude with an attack like "YOU PEOPLE .. but I" in haughty self justification. It's all right not to like a story. Me I am in the unpopular set who hated "Love In Flames of War", but I would not attack those who find merit with it and adored the character played by Chen Duling. I even admit that this actress has a talent to portray characters that are truly hate-able. To me, Master Ren is as sweet and stinky as a spiky durian, but I am quite satisfied with how his inner faithful, benevolent, shrewd and loyal core is revealed :)
all i have to say is that if i were any of the people in that class or family .. i’d never speak to li quan…
The drama is about redemption, so the Master (and the victim Mr Wu) agreed to let a way out for LiQuan to change. Which LiQuan did after not having been allowed to suicide or to drop out. He proved that he had learned enough to be of use in fighting the deadly epidemic and changed his ways for the better. This is in harmony with the spirit of what a person should become : useful to others, and transformed from sinner into a person abhorrent of evil. China knows historically the importance of such an attitude, to deal with past (and present) horrors. Different from the illogical Christian attitude of forgiveness and acceptance, it is being conscious of past sins but moving forward to absorb them and make them the soil on which uprightness be grown. Like having reformed Red Guards or hooligans reform and work for the greater good, or class enemy former emperor and (forced to) collaboration with enemies be reformed as a gardener in Beijing. That's the purpose of the system which puts emphasis on reeducation if possible. Of course, if the sin is viciousness to children and rape of women, murder, or treason, there is no redemption: it's either very long hard prison sentence (like for Kris Wu) or death penalty. LiQuan had balked at outright murder, so there was hope for him yet. Forcing him behind bars would not have been useful for the TCM sect or for the State. Letting him get the option to turn himself in, realize suicide was another, but taking away that option by saving him and lending the money to get him free from the company that had put temptation his way was the most efficient way to get LiQuan in better debt, to turn the page. The class was not told what LiQuan did. Only Mr Ren, Mr Wu, and Toutou knew the grave sin that he had been tempted to and committed. So the class and others had no reason to hate and despise him. As for the two elders and even Toutou, they were adult enough to not react knee jerkingly like children who cannot see the greater picture and forge ahead with vengeful thoughts that create a vicious circle.
Btw about the name change requested by Toutou, here are my views : Master Ren explained that he could not call her Sun Wukong 孙悟空 who is the famous Monkey King. But after having long considered her as an impish but sweet and wild little "Monkey Sun", he found a name that would be more serious and cultured than 孙头头 : one that would fit a growing leader, and remind also of the greatness of the path-clearer for pilgrim Tang Sanzang in the epic Journey to the West, the most universally known Chinese classic. Dà Yuàn 大 愿 means "Great Ambition" and being humble does not mean one should lack ambition. The "yuan" key and personal name (usually last in Chinese two-character given names) is that in 意愿 Yìyuàn (will) which is also in 愿意 Yuànyì (be willing to). It is also homonym with some words that are linked to officialdom such as 教员 Jiàoyuán (teacher), 辅导员 Fǔdǎo yuán (counselor). The new name will establish her as one who has the drive and backing of her elders, sect and authorities. It is a very nice sounding name too, in Chinese. (Adding this to the Traditional Chinese Culture Discussion.)
I will miss this cast and story. Luo Yizhou jumping in to show his mastery of the dance, in last episode, was a wink to his other career as singer and dancer. As a tribute to the sentiments elicited by the drama, I contributed a small piece about well known Tang poetry, with translation from the Zhang Jiu Ling poem that Toutou was thinking about in ep. 39. It's in the Discussion. Here if you are interested : https://kisskh.at/discussions/hou-lang/100789-about-traditional-chinese-culture?page=3 Feel free to add your thoughts, the other poems and chengyu that you noticed in the drama, or just your favorite piece of Chinese poetry?
Hi, this is unrelated to page title, although I landed here because of fruitlessly searching for the whereabouts…
I think it is another one bc it was trending before PE was aired, under the title UNDERCOVER POLICEWOMAN but not long ago. Mysterious, isn't it ? Ah, but I am not so gifted an investigator as can hunt down those dramas that keep changing names (prob what happened) so it's difficult to identify them. Right now for instance, we have When Dreams Begin - lingering title for what WeTV offers as "The Youth Memories" (the new drama with Xiao Zhan).
introduction (plot):Chang Ming, a policewoman of the Municipal Public Security Bureau, is a negotiator and is…
Hi, this is unrelated to page title, although I landed here because of fruitlessly searching for the whereabouts of a C drama that's supposedly trending under the name UNDERCOVER POLICE OFFICER. Would you perhaps know where to watch it (couldn't find it on the usual platforms (weTV, iQiyi, Viki, Youtube, kiss, ...cool) and whatever permutation of words or synonyms on MDL also drew a blank. So I am curious... Perhaps you can help me with that search?
The plot you outlined makes me put this future drama on my tbw list :) I'd probably would click on it bc of ZLY anyway ! :))
I really appreciate the history lesson too. I also like that we're not hit over the head with it, but it's just…
Cool. The dramas I list do watch... Those I log on MDL as watching are on my screens, although I watch others too, that I don't list until finished, oof. Sometimes forgetting to list them, until much later. So, where's Frost at, to paraphrase Marcus? * I am on episode 8 of A Date with the Future on WeTV (contributed a discussion there) , * on episode 10 of The Youth Memories on WeTV * on episode 37 of Gen Z Houlang on the youhug channel (contributed a 2 page discussion about Chinese culture, tales, legends, Shennong, Lao Zi, Daoism, hexagrams and baguazhang) ; * on episode 22 of Here We Meet Again on WeTV , bc moderate fan of Erbin and not disliking Janice... but only mentioning my presence in conversation * on episode 13 of Mr Insomnia Waiting For Love on kiss (because I needed a touch of fluff, and this is literally what it's about) with no need to express myself about this dessert drama. I'm not detailing more, since the rest of the 11 are logged on "my list" incl the two xianxias (BFTB competing w latest BOR starring Ju Jingyi), the PE police Dilraba and the TWC hospital Peng GuangYing, except the minguo YIFOW and the Craftsmen, that I'll just log in when finished, bc following discussions elsewhere. All this while foreseeing to be tied up with some celebrations that are upcoming for my Earthling incarnation + needed periods of R&R ! 一定要去祝我身体健康吧 !
Also I am not sure but wasn't it LQ who warned the family that Master Ren was sick, triggering his wife into coming as reinforcement ?
As for TT, yes, perhaps LQ should have said something. Perhaps he did and that may be why TT seems so comfortable after the one year elapsed (shown with the Solar Terms succession), that he will not attack her position any longer out of jealousy. Taking a second chance at matrimony with her friend who now believes LQ has shown his reliability, is also a sign that he has chosen the Daoist "path" of the good guy, if still somewhat diffidently searching for his place, henceforth.
The blessings and retribution recitation shows the grounding of the TCM sect in the Daoist philosophy and religion. i put some notes about that in the Discussion section which you can look up if you are interested.
My feeling :) I don't really have a soft spot for the sly individual, but he looked more honest and useful after the Wuhan ordeal.
Of course, I like Zhang Binbin who is quite the idol now, and I thought it was funny that he made good on his promise to jump into the sea if the drama got "28,000 popularity index" which it did.
Enjoying the show sedately, and happy that it was crowned as top one for past week in the Chinese web-drama category by V linkage ranking research company (while GenZ Houlang was crowned for TV series).
It was clear enough that this was what had happened :)
You also forgot to erase the mysterious "I missed a to"
I know a couple who did that in real life, while the future mom was sick in hospital, to boot !!
Still, because of the way things turned out in the end tying some loose ends together and even making good use of the Meng Meng arc (over long, and based on a bad premise, I agree), I put this drama in the top ones for ZLS.
About the Solar Terms in the last episode, I liked that they showed the way over a year had passed after the previous events. It was a nice reminder, not that long, and in the calendar order, whereas some Solar Terms had been dropped before.
I found the drama nicely instructive and satisfying, also because I was not looking for torrid romance The Forbidden Flower style. Toutou and Tianzhen are one of those nice couples one might meet who don't flaunt their feelings overmuch. Their chemistry is okay and the dancing/ celebration did not feel weird to me, but a nice change from the expected tropes of proposals and grand wedding. LQ story served as one more example of the redeeming purpose in the drama.
The "lies" were so outlandish that they clearly to me, were a test of some sort, to be viewed as allegorical and I was happy to find that my hunch was right.
Perhaps it could have been written differently, but then perhaps it would have been bland and boring, humdrum, to me.
Master Ren is not an ordinary man, that's for sure, and his ways are sometimes inscrutable. He is an avowed sect leader. The wife accepted the full package as a thorny way to sainthood. The son was never abandoned and got enough education and money. None of them, elders and disciples included, ever starved.
They all put themselves second to the service of the people's health.
The story is not an example to follow blindly by lesser humans who are prone to be tempted to enter debt or worse when they go about launching a random business.
Lies hurting your family : you mean his telling everyone that TT was his daughter ? As all those who knew him thought, this was probably (and was) a test of their sound judgement and confidence in the path they had chosen with him. In fact he did not even lie, since TT was already his daughter in law in his mind!
Or the outlandish story of the 300 year tile? This was clearly an allegory for "they would do their utmost and try even the impossible" to help the hopeless one. Making it so that time would heal the mind's wound, which was more important than the physical injury. Even modern science recognizes and uses the placebo effect.
Don't think it's just OK to conclude with an attack like "YOU PEOPLE .. but I" in haughty self justification. It's all right not to like a story. Me I am in the unpopular set who hated "Love In Flames of War", but I would not attack those who find merit with it and adored the character played by Chen Duling. I even admit that this actress has a talent to portray characters that are truly hate-able.
To me, Master Ren is as sweet and stinky as a spiky durian, but I am quite satisfied with how his inner faithful, benevolent, shrewd and loyal core is revealed :)
China knows historically the importance of such an attitude, to deal with past (and present) horrors. Different from the illogical Christian attitude of forgiveness and acceptance, it is being conscious of past sins but moving forward to absorb them and make them the soil on which uprightness be grown. Like having reformed Red Guards or hooligans reform and work for the greater good, or class enemy former emperor and (forced to) collaboration with enemies be reformed as a gardener in Beijing. That's the purpose of the system which puts emphasis on reeducation if possible. Of course, if the sin is viciousness to children and rape of women, murder, or treason, there is no redemption: it's either very long hard prison sentence (like for Kris Wu) or death penalty.
LiQuan had balked at outright murder, so there was hope for him yet. Forcing him behind bars would not have been useful for the TCM sect or for the State. Letting him get the option to turn himself in, realize suicide was another, but taking away that option by saving him and lending the money to get him free from the company that had put temptation his way was the most efficient way to get LiQuan in better debt, to turn the page.
The class was not told what LiQuan did. Only Mr Ren, Mr Wu, and Toutou knew the grave sin that he had been tempted to and committed. So the class and others had no reason to hate and despise him. As for the two elders and even Toutou, they were adult enough to not react knee jerkingly like children who cannot see the greater picture and forge ahead with vengeful thoughts that create a vicious circle.
Master Ren explained that he could not call her Sun Wukong 孙悟空 who is the famous Monkey King. But after having long considered her as an impish but sweet and wild little "Monkey Sun", he found a name that would be more serious and cultured than 孙头头 : one that would fit a growing leader, and remind also of the greatness of the path-clearer for pilgrim Tang Sanzang in the epic Journey to the West, the most universally known Chinese classic.
Dà Yuàn 大 愿 means "Great Ambition" and being humble does not mean one should lack ambition. The "yuan" key and personal name (usually last in Chinese two-character given names) is that in 意愿 Yìyuàn (will) which is also in 愿意 Yuànyì (be willing to). It is also homonym with some words that are linked to officialdom such as 教员 Jiàoyuán (teacher), 辅导员 Fǔdǎo yuán (counselor). The new name will establish her as one who has the drive and backing of her elders, sect and authorities.
It is a very nice sounding name too, in Chinese.
(Adding this to the Traditional Chinese Culture Discussion.)
As a tribute to the sentiments elicited by the drama, I contributed a small piece about well known Tang poetry, with translation from the Zhang Jiu Ling poem that Toutou was thinking about in ep. 39. It's in the Discussion. Here if you are interested : https://kisskh.at/discussions/hou-lang/100789-about-traditional-chinese-culture?page=3
Feel free to add your thoughts, the other poems and chengyu that you noticed in the drama, or just your favorite piece of Chinese poetry?
The plot you outlined makes me put this future drama on my tbw list :)
I'd probably would click on it bc of ZLY anyway ! :))
So, where's Frost at, to paraphrase Marcus?
* I am on episode 8 of A Date with the Future on WeTV (contributed a discussion there) ,
* on episode 10 of The Youth Memories on WeTV
* on episode 37 of Gen Z Houlang on the youhug channel (contributed a 2 page discussion about Chinese culture, tales, legends, Shennong, Lao Zi, Daoism, hexagrams and baguazhang) ;
* on episode 22 of Here We Meet Again on WeTV , bc moderate fan of Erbin and not disliking Janice... but only mentioning my presence in conversation
* on episode 13 of Mr Insomnia Waiting For Love on kiss (because I needed a touch of fluff, and this is literally what it's about) with no need to express myself about this dessert drama.
I'm not detailing more, since the rest of the 11 are logged on "my list" incl the two xianxias (BFTB competing w latest BOR starring Ju Jingyi), the PE police Dilraba and the TWC hospital Peng GuangYing, except the minguo YIFOW and the Craftsmen, that I'll just log in when finished, bc following discussions elsewhere.
All this while foreseeing to be tied up with some celebrations that are upcoming for my Earthling incarnation + needed periods of R&R !
一定要去祝我身体健康吧 !