If I could go back to history, I would love to meet Lord Feng, man survived five dynasties my god. I would pass away in one itself. Imagine how good he was to survive this haywire of situations
it's interesting how everything is related like a butterfly effect. in ep 12 sworn brothers guo wei, wang jun and the others trusted generals force liu to seize the throne from the khitans against his own will.
after a couple of years liu died, his eldest son died ( probably by the hands of his own little brother ), the incompetent greedy second son became the emperor and killed the entire family of guo wei. ( if guo wei didn't force liu to be the emperor, liu's second son would not ascended the throne and then killed guo wei's family )
now guo wei is forced to "retaliate" and those same people like wang jun and the other generals are forcing guo wei to be the emperor.
it's a vicious circle... imo it's also pretty clear that shitty things like betrayal from close ones will happened to the guo's, we can already feel the malicious thoughts of wang jun his so called sworn brother :-)
friendship, sworn brotherhood, even real family ties doesn't mean a thing compared to absolute power or the greed for absolute power.
many people talking about Hu Jin Si is this, he is that,to remind people he is older version of Cao Cao of Han…
i don’t much care whose version he is or can't quite understand how It's related to the things hu jinsi did in the drama,but writer messed up big time in the latest arc,I'll put it on hold for now, will come back later when it finishes, a lot of cdramas have lousy ending after being great at beginning & middle so i lost Trust 😓
After Legend of the magnate, It's the 2nd drama discussion page where I've enjoyed this much analysis & Enjoyed insightful comments, an enriched comment section where mature audience gathered again!
❤️ @PeachBlossomGoddess @SalwaNice @Megumi H @Jocketoool @AleksandraSucur @Anthony Tumiwa @Nahlabee4 & other names i forgot but i went further down to read old comments
will be coming back after the show is completed to know if i should continue or not 😅 for me so far It's 8/10
Ah now I understand why ppl are complaining about using AI for the intro. Yeah sure AI animation stuff is what kids watch these days, but a live person should create something unique for the drama and get paid for it.
This is the best explanation about it: QUOTE: " using AI is honestly weird, there are tons of artists who can make an intro, but then dramappl turn around and use soulless gen ai - it is so weird - it’s taking actual talented artist jobs"
It was forced land seizure. The local authorities fraudulently asserted autumn taxes when the king had waived them bc of hard times and demanded payment in spring, before they were due. The farmers borrowed money from the noble families to pay their taxes using their land as collateral. Cheng Zhaoyue was the key architect of this scheme.
I just finished episode 30. English is not my native language, but this drama forced me to watch it with English subtitles because I couldn’t wait for the next episode. With a book in hand to take notes of the words I didn’t understand and to keep track of the complicated relationships between the characters, I actually enjoyed it a lot because it was just that good.
This drama is perfect for those of you who enjoy serious and realistic stories based on history and complex political dynamics. When watching something like this, you can’t judge the characters as simply “good” or “evil,” “black” or “white,” because humans are fundamentally complex beings full of contradictions. This drama presents its “men, ministers, kings, servants, and common people” in deeply layered ways.
From the first five episodes, I really liked the character Shui Qiu, an extraordinarily intelligent and loyal minister. He is a good and wise mentor, accompanying the ninth prince and witnessing his growth. He cares deeply for The Qian brothers and for the people. He is the type of person I would genuinely respect if someone like him existed in the real world.
Meanwhile, I truly hate the character He Cheng Xun, He is greedy, treacherous, cowardly, and constantly stirring up conflict. He is the kind of person who could bring ruin to a country if left unchecked. In the early episodes, I already hated him for betrayl his master… and after episode 30, I hated him even more.
The end of episode 29 made me hard to breathe, and in episode 30, I cried and cursed a lot. I felt bad for Hongchu, but what happened to Shui Qiu played a big role in shaping his principles as a king. I was just not satisfied with He Cheng Xun’s ending. I wish he were chopped up and fed to the dogs!!
For me, this drama is recomended... With note : Look the tag and the genre's
after a couple of years liu died, his eldest son died ( probably by the hands of his own little brother ), the incompetent greedy second son became the emperor and killed the entire family of guo wei. ( if guo wei didn't force liu to be the emperor, liu's second son would not ascended the throne and then killed guo wei's family )
now guo wei is forced to "retaliate" and those same people like wang jun and the other generals are forcing guo wei to be the emperor.
it's a vicious circle... imo it's also pretty clear that shitty things like betrayal from close ones will happened to the guo's, we can already feel the malicious thoughts of wang jun his so called sworn brother :-)
friendship, sworn brotherhood, even real family ties doesn't mean a thing compared to absolute power or the greed for absolute power.
❤️ @PeachBlossomGoddess @SalwaNice @Megumi H @Jocketoool @AleksandraSucur @Anthony Tumiwa @Nahlabee4 & other names i forgot but i went further down to read old comments
will be coming back after the show is completed to know if i should continue or not 😅 for me so far It's 8/10
This is the best explanation about it:
QUOTE: " using AI is honestly weird, there are tons of artists who can make an intro, but then dramappl turn around and use soulless gen ai - it is so weird - it’s taking actual talented artist jobs"
Ai ruins authenticity, steals real art and turns everything soulless so thats why people will make a fuzz about it.
Also if theyve used that much AI, who's to say they didnt use it to write the script too?
one of my fav character died today💔
We have reached ML on the throne, curious to see what happens next
English is not my native language, but this drama forced me to watch it with English subtitles because I couldn’t wait for the next episode. With a book in hand to take notes of the words I didn’t understand and to keep track of the complicated relationships between the characters, I actually enjoyed it a lot because it was just that good.
This drama is perfect for those of you who enjoy serious and realistic stories based on history and complex political dynamics. When watching something like this, you can’t judge the characters as simply “good” or “evil,” “black” or “white,” because humans are fundamentally complex beings full of contradictions.
This drama presents its “men, ministers, kings, servants, and common people” in deeply layered ways.
From the first five episodes, I really liked the character Shui Qiu, an extraordinarily intelligent and loyal minister. He is a good and wise mentor, accompanying the ninth prince and witnessing his growth. He cares deeply for The Qian brothers and for the people. He is the type of person I would genuinely respect if someone like him existed in the real world.
Meanwhile, I truly hate the character He Cheng Xun, He is greedy, treacherous, cowardly, and constantly stirring up conflict. He is the kind of person who could bring ruin to a country if left unchecked. In the early episodes, I already hated him for betrayl his master… and after episode 30, I hated him even more.
The end of episode 29 made me hard to breathe, and in episode 30, I cried and cursed a lot. I felt bad for Hongchu, but what happened to Shui Qiu played a big role in shaping his principles as a king. I was just not satisfied with He Cheng Xun’s ending. I wish he were chopped up and fed to the dogs!!
For me, this drama is recomended... With note : Look the tag and the genre's