I think people's morals are distorted. Tian is not innocent like many people are saying. He is partially responsible for Torfun's death. Some fans act like he was a gentle and noble guy, not an arrogant brat who enjoyed to participate in illegal drag racings. Of course we feel sorry for the treatment he got from both the villagers and Phupha, but that reaction was not out of proportion at all. People need to understand what responsibility is. Tian is NOT a victim here. This is karma and karma is a bitch.
In addition, Tian confessed to the entire village: "I was responsible for her death". He was vague about the real role he played on her death. It was his fault the harsh reaction he got.
Like many people, I didn't like episode 8 that much. Too melodramatic. It reminds me a bit episode 4 of ITSAY. Both are a bit overwrought in my opinion, but episode 8 of 1000 Stars is not so well directed and acted and lacks the depth of the mentioned Nadao series.
One thing that I need to say is that I still don't appreciate Earth's acting so far and now I think I can say he will not improve anymore, since the series is about to end. Mix is a rookie and he is much better than Earth.
This argument seems a bit odd to me. If we follow this logic, it would be ok to insert a romantic rape situation…
I don't understand why you described the scene where he deletes the sexual harassment text. It doesn't add any substance to your argument.
The point here is the sound editing. You claim now that they are using these noises to criticize the toxic aspects of the BL industry. This doesn't make sense again. The noises are all over the scenes, even when nothing is happening. When they talk, jump, walk, blink, stare, etc, every single action is accompanied by a weird sound. This is not related to BL, It is just an overuse of sound effects for comic purpose.
Even if the noises were used only to criticize the toxic aspects of the BL industry, it would be a very inefficient way to do that. If you want to criticize something, why would need a sound effect? If the critics is intelligent, there is no need to come with odd sounds to make sure people will get the meaning. When one character says "I don't want a girly actor because it doesn't sell", everybody can understand the critics, we don't need a horn to understand what is being said.
i read numerous comments complaining about the sound effects in the first episode, so felt the need to write this.…
This argument seems a bit odd to me. If we follow this logic, it would be ok to insert a romantic rape situation in this show just to "denounce" it. Does it make sense? Can you imagine if someone who is a human Rights activist is caught having slave labor in his property? Would be acceptable if this person argues that he owns slaves to "denounce" the slavery?
By the way, this series has a lot of sound effects. Much more than the usual BL series. How can they criticize the overuse of sound effects using it even more than the shows they are criticizing?
I gave up this show because of the overuse of comic sound effects. They gave me headache. Bells, whistles, horns, etc, every each 5 seconds is something too annoying. I really don't understand why they need to do it.
The point here is not about the comedy itself, it is about bad editing and cheap jokes. If you need to add too much sound effects, probably the dialogs are not really funny by themselves.
Instead of creating good dialogs that are really funny and don't need any extra sounds to make you laugh, they just add a lot of random sound effects. The result is a chaotic cacophony, where the effects doesn't add anything to the story. The effects should work in line with the story, not being independent from the narrative. Sometimes it seems that the story follows the background sounds, not the opposite.
This series addresses a lot of very important issues in Thai BL industry, such as romantic rape plots, homophobic casting and pink money. But it is difficult to pay attention to these topics when we have horns and drums making noise all the time.
In my opinion, this series is a wasted opportunity.
Based on the reviews I was so damn excited for this, saved it up for a "me" day, but I couldn't even finish it.…
Well, I will give my opinion to you.
I like it because there is no rape, no terrible acting, no toxic relationship, no bad script. It portrays LGBTQ people decently and it is more realistic.
In other words, it is not a horrible GMM engineering series.
So i don't know if this will make any sense but i still wanna tell it, so I've noticed that when someone watches…
I watched this series in a day after it was already finished and I consider it a masterpiece. It should be longer, of course, but it is very well done.
It funny how people are picky with any show that has a GMM tag and just ignore how bad are most thai BL LOLThis…
I really disagree. GMM has a style. Even this series being different it still has some common GMM production problems such as the poor editing and the lack of realism in some scenes (Tian faced a heart surgery but he is still pretty with a nice hairdo). It is not only a direction problem. You have the post-production which is really poor in all GMM series. The casting preparation is not that good too. Although they have improved, GMM series still lack consistent good acting and some dialogs are poorly written.
It is a good start for a GMM series. The editing is a bit inefficient, something that is common in GMM series. The passage of time is too abrupt and they could care a bit more about realism in some scenes. For example: when Tian woke up on the bed after the transplant surgery he shouldn't look like that pretty. He was not there for a broken finger, for the god sake, he went through a fucking transplant!
But well, even though we had these problems, this episode was better than any other first episode of GMM series I have watched so far. I liked Mix's acting more than Earth's, which was not a surprise at all since I have seen Earth before in Waterboys. I hope his acting improves as the show progresses.
It was interesting the way they developed Tian from an arrogant childish brat to a boy looking for a meaning (or redemption?) for his existence. Tian is a boy haunted by Torfun's death and how unfair her fate looks like compared to the second chance he got. Her life was dedicated to make other people's lives better. She did so much for the unprivileged ones although she was poor either. But, still, she had to die. Her death saved Tian, a rich and privileged boy who doesn't care about anything but himself. It is even worse: he only got Torfun's heart because his parents bribed the hospital and managed to make him jump the line! So unfair, right? Now he knows that not only Torfun died, but another person who is in need of a heart has his spot in the waiting list stolen by him!
Tian is a young adult who faces the fact he is a rich and futile boy who never did anything for anyone but still had a second change while Torfun didn't; and the people waiting for a heart transplant might not have. I liked the way they showed how sensitive to social unfairness he became after all these experiences. We can see that when he was in the restaurant discussing with his parents' friends. He was angry both due to their insensitiveness to the fate of the heart donor and how they bragged about jumping the waiting list line. This dialog demonstrates how uneasy he feels about everything. Then, a barmaid accidentally spilled wine on his shirt. Something meaningful happens after that. Tian looks to the girl being scolded by her boss and feel a bit sad: she was poor and unprivileged, just like Torfun. Watching that scene makes him ask himself even more: why do those people need to struggle so much while my life is so (unfairly) easy?
So, he needs to make it up. He needs to worth his second chance. He needs to stop being the playboy he is and do something meaningful. He needs to live his life for Torfun and make her wishes become true.
It was a decent start for the character. I hope they don't abandon these issues and don't focus only on the romance between him and chief Phu.
In addition, Tian confessed to the entire village: "I was responsible for her death". He was vague about the real role he played on her death. It was his fault the harsh reaction he got.
Like many people, I didn't like episode 8 that much. Too melodramatic. It reminds me a bit episode 4 of ITSAY. Both are a bit overwrought in my opinion, but episode 8 of 1000 Stars is not so well directed and
acted and lacks the depth of the mentioned Nadao series.
One thing that I need to say is that I still don't appreciate Earth's acting so far and now I think I can say he will not improve anymore, since the series is about to end. Mix is a rookie and he is much better than Earth.
I think some scenes on episode 4 are overwrought. But I think it is a masterpiece in general.
The point here is the sound editing. You claim now that they are using these noises to criticize the toxic aspects of the BL industry. This doesn't make sense again. The noises are all over the scenes, even when nothing is happening. When they talk, jump, walk, blink, stare, etc, every single action is accompanied by a weird sound. This is not related to BL, It is just an overuse of sound effects for comic purpose.
Even if the noises were used only to criticize the toxic aspects of the BL industry, it would be a very inefficient way to do that. If you want to criticize something, why would need a sound effect? If the critics is intelligent, there is no need to come with odd sounds to make sure people will get the meaning. When one character says "I don't want a girly actor because it doesn't sell", everybody can understand the critics, we don't need a horn to understand what is being said.
By the way, this series has a lot of sound effects. Much more than the usual BL series. How can they criticize the overuse of sound effects using it even more than the shows they are criticizing?
For me, it doesn't make sense.
I gave up this show because of the overuse of comic sound effects. They gave me headache. Bells, whistles, horns, etc, every each 5 seconds is something too annoying. I really don't understand why they need to do it.
The point here is not about the comedy itself, it is about bad editing and cheap jokes. If you need to add too much sound effects, probably the dialogs are not really funny by themselves.
Instead of creating good dialogs that are really funny and don't need any extra sounds to make you laugh, they just add a lot of random sound effects. The result is a chaotic cacophony, where the effects doesn't add anything to the story. The effects should work in line with the story, not being independent from the narrative. Sometimes it seems that the story follows the background sounds, not the opposite.
This series addresses a lot of very important issues in Thai BL industry, such as romantic rape plots, homophobic casting and pink money. But it is difficult to pay attention to these topics when we have horns and drums making noise all the time.
In my opinion, this series is a wasted opportunity.
He portrayed my favorite character in Hormones 3.
I like it because there is no rape, no terrible acting, no toxic relationship, no bad script. It portrays LGBTQ people decently and it is more realistic.
In other words, it is not a horrible GMM engineering series.
That's why it is so good.
Almost all Thai series have this kind of thing, regardless the genre.
And they have money to do better.
It is not only a direction problem. You have the post-production which is really poor in all GMM series.
The casting preparation is not that good too. Although they have improved, GMM series still lack consistent good acting and some dialogs are poorly written.
But well, even though we had these problems, this episode was better than any other first episode of GMM series I have watched so far. I liked Mix's acting more than Earth's, which was not a surprise at all since I have seen Earth before in Waterboys. I hope his acting improves as the show progresses.
It was interesting the way they developed Tian from an arrogant childish brat to a boy looking for a meaning (or redemption?) for his existence. Tian is a boy haunted by Torfun's death and how unfair her fate looks like compared to the second chance he got. Her life was dedicated to make other people's lives better. She did so much for the unprivileged ones although she was poor either. But, still, she had to die. Her death saved Tian, a rich and privileged boy who doesn't care about anything but himself. It is even worse: he only got Torfun's heart because his parents bribed the hospital and managed to make him jump the line! So unfair, right? Now he knows that not only Torfun died, but another person who is in need of a heart has his spot in the waiting list stolen by him!
Tian is a young adult who faces the fact he is a rich and futile boy who never did anything for anyone but still had a second change while Torfun didn't; and the people waiting for a heart transplant might not have. I liked the way they showed how sensitive to social unfairness he became after all these experiences. We can see that when he was in the restaurant discussing with his parents' friends. He was angry both due to their insensitiveness to the fate of the heart donor and how they bragged about jumping the waiting list line. This dialog demonstrates how uneasy he feels about everything. Then, a barmaid accidentally spilled wine on his shirt. Something meaningful happens after that. Tian looks to the girl being scolded by her boss and feel a bit sad: she was poor and unprivileged, just like Torfun. Watching that scene makes him ask himself even more: why do those people need to struggle so much while my life is so (unfairly) easy?
So, he needs to make it up. He needs to worth his second chance. He needs to stop being the playboy he is and do something meaningful. He needs to live his life for Torfun and make her wishes become true.
It was a decent start for the character. I hope they don't abandon these issues and don't focus only on the romance between him and chief Phu.