Hunter2022

Is anyone watching Renegade Immortal donghua anime? I couldn't help but notice how the ML+FL in that 3D CGI anime produced by Tencent is so similar to Tang Lici and Miss A Shui.

I even made a threaded post here:

https://kisskh.at/discussions/755725-shui-long-yin/146464-whispers-of-fate-is-too-similar-to-renegade-immortal

I've read from Gnosticism that when mortals (people) die in real life I mean, their life rewinds backward from the moment of death to birth. They basically relive their entire life again but in reverse time. This drama (or the ending) is an eerie reflection of that...

Only on EP 25, but I just want to say (after being spoiled by various episode summaries found online of later episodes) Immortals don't really have a love life. They become mortals to experience love but then leave everything behind when they "go back home" to the celestial realm.

May explain the ML's love life and the letting go of A Shui in the end...

Just a word of caution, I wouldn't put too much hope into S2, otherwise disappointment could seep in.

Take a look at how super-popular Strange Tales of Tang Dynasty S1/S2/S3 performed:

https://www.douban.com/doubanapp/dispatch?uri=/tv/35235151
https://www.douban.com/doubanapp/dispatch?uri=/tv/36188849
https://www.douban.com/doubanapp/dispatch?uri=/tv/36318037

S1 - 8/10 (397K ratings)
S2 - 8.6/10 (306K ratings)
S3 - 8.1/10 (53K ratings -- it's aired 75% of episodes so far, which means end result may not differ significantly)

Basically, you can see viewer interest dropped precipitously for S3 (less than 20% of those who watched S1 stuck around till S3).

Immortal Ascension S2 may be good and highly rated, but its viewership may suffer.

Best to go into S2 with very low expectations!

Basically what I'm trying to say:

Immortal Ascension

is like

Renegade Immortal

BUT, since there is no live action drama of the latter (yet)...

Whispers of Fate

( https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin )

is like

Renegade Immortal

!

Tang Lici makes wood carvings of people as a hobby. I LMAO. Wood carving is such an essential part of Wang Lin,s root.

Whispers of Fate couldn't be a more shoe-in replacement for Renegade Immortal than this!

Finally, I often find myself transposing Li Muwan,s character over Miss A Shui in Whispers of Fate. There were too many instances where I find myself thinking, that's NOT Miss A Shui, that's Wan,Er!

I love how much attention to details they paid to the overall theme of Whispers of Fate to resemble Return of the Condor Heroes (the only Jin Yong work that I like):

Tang Lici got long strands of grey hair (while the majority of his hair still black) running down to his chest like Yang Guo.

Miss A Shui is seen riding on a giant goose (instead of Condor) in some scenes.

When I heard the ending credits song for the 1st time, my initial reaction was it,s that duet song from RoCH 1995 starring Louis Koo and Carman Lee, but in Mandarin and modern tempo:

1995 RoCH OST

https://youtu.be/dQy9Oax7ZRw?si=iFBdtquFbmLDR_wd

Whispers of Fate ending duet song

https://youtu.be/0QvRWd5GXss?si=qyO_XBlZa--aWtUC&t=2647

Like seriously it,s rare to hear a duet song composed for the opening or ending credits of a C-drama, unless it suits the (love) theme of the drama exactly. It also costs more to hire two singers instead of one. This is the money well spent on Whispers of Fate.

I love how Tang Lici got a human servant sidekick like in Renegade Immortal.

CGI is super good too. Maybe the only downside some CGI scenes look like cartoony painting. But then that's what happened in Renegade Immortal too when you're in Wang Lin's life and death domain.

Tang Lici is known as the (cursed) Yin Yang verse. OMG isn't that Wang Lin's duality ruthless life and death domain?

And Miss A Shui (at first) is not the typical strong FL heroine fighter you find in C-dramas like Immortal Ascension. She's a weak beauty like Li Muwan.

In short, rather than waiting for aeons for some studio to produce Renegade Immortal live action drama, Whispers of Fate is already a perfectly adapted "Renegade Immortal".

Not to mention romance too. Whispers of Fate already had a kiss scene 1/4th into the drama where the FL tried to wake the ML up with a kiss. Immortal Ascension S1 almost had no romance.

Speaking of which Whispers of Fate is devoid of any kind of love triangles like in Renegade Immortal. There isn't a character like Mo Caihuan to annoy the viewers...

I'm only posting here becoz Renegade Immortal is an almost parallel story to Fanren Xiu Xian Chuan (poor village mortal boy joins sect to begin his cultivation journey, he haphazardly stumbles upon many opportunities to gather artifacts from mysterious places/domains/worlds, he gets transported to a place/new world (or planet) where he has to leave all his previous acquaintances behind (so it comes with an exagerated/melodramatic goodbye scene), and there is even an arc where he relives the life of a mortal in order to gain insight to evolve to the next level, etc.)

Anyways, Renegade Immortal has quickly overtaken Faren to be my favorite, but only in donghua (they haven't made a Renegade Immortal live action drama yet). Here is where I am deeply disappointed the most... Until

OMG, is anyone watching Whispers of Fate (Shui Long Yin aka Water Dragon's Roar)? I can't believe they got Jelly LIn (of the Mermaid movie fame) to play the FL and her character is almost EXACTLY the same as the FL of Renegade Immortal story. Also ML of Whispers of Fate is the same ruthless character as the ML of Renegade Immortal.

Though they haven't made a Renegade Immortal live action yet, I can certainly live with Whispers of Fate as a shoe in replacement. The resemblances of the ML + FL to Wang LIn and Li MuWan are just too striking!

While you guys wait for S2 of Immmortal Ascension live action, I dare say Whispers of Fate is the same kind of Xianxia drama, if not better!

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin

Basically, I no longer care whether they eventually make a Renegade Immortal live action drama. I am already watching Wang LIn (as Tang LIci) and Li Muwan (as Miss A Shui) look/be-alikes. I can't believe the FL of Whispers of Fate not only looks like Wan'Er from Renegade Immortal but her character and personality matches too!

LOL. However I spend my time and energy is NOT for you to decide.

Only 5.7/10 on Douban. What went wrong? I'm only on EP 5 BTW. Jelly Lin is smokin hot in that ancient outfit.

https://movie.douban.com/subject/36372332/

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Things I found annoying:

1. Jittery cutting when they zoom into someone's face. That detracts a lot from the viewing experience.
2. The story is a bit unsophisticated like being presented to a 10 year old.

Any news on the S2?

I stopped caring for/watching Tencent drama series. Tencent only excels in donghua anime series. Most of their dramas are a let down with poor scores on Douban. I find more delight in Youku/iQiyi series now. Three Body S2 is the only one and other Tencent series left on my to watch list.

I think this S2 will run into lots of problems. Like there are now three protagonists BUT only one of them is Chinese. It will look weird when they show a Chinese-made drama series in the Mainland China where a Japanese woman and White man make up for 2/3 of the screen time with the other 1/3rd allocated to a Chinese male leading role.

Those who haven't read the books will think C-ent being hijacked by Japan and USA... (BUT then again, Tencent will find a clever workable solution to this dilemma becoz their S1 scored very highly on Douban)

These execs are dumb. They never seem to learn from history. Based on Jade Dynasty the movie performance that tanked at the box office, they still recruited Xiao Zhan for Condor Heroes that also tanked. Seems they don't care that an actor should prove himself first at the box office before he gets another movie leading role.

Same with Li Wanda. Her recent movie generated the most flak for her bad portrayal of the FL in Under One Person, yet here we are again...

Jelly Lin with Leo Wu for Fights Breaks Sphere was good pairing.
Zhao Lusi with Leo Wu for Love Like the Galaxy was excellent pairing.
Li Wanda with Leo Wu.... You're lookin for/at disaster!

It's like a MAJOR downgrade from Leo Wu's past series.

"Media illiteracy at its finest". You guys assume too much. I never claimed I wouldn't come here and comment.

Seems like a downgrade. Leo Wu got paired with Jelly Lin (The Mermaid) in Fights Break Sphere that's now hot trending (the actress I mean) in Whispers of Fate (currently airing).

Li Wanda is a jinx. Really bad box office for Under One Person (the movie). I will personally sit this drama out.

BTW, the anime (S1) sucked. It felt like they spent 26 episodes just filming (King) Arthur (aka Chen Ping An) pull the sword out of the stone. Each episode they only had like 2-3 seconds of that scene of Arthur attempting to pull the sword out of the stone. The rest was filled with useless flashbacks and flash forwards and (un-)related side characters that made Arthur arrive at the sword pulling scene in the first place. I never seen a more stupider anime!

Go watch Renegade Immortal (the donghua becoz nobody made a live action yet) if you want a parallel story where the ML got married with the FL 44 episodes in.

We're at Episode 168 of Immortal Ascension the donghua and prob the ML hadn't made his move with the FL yet...

It's Tencent. Those guys have almost unlimited budget. They can do whatever they want lose money and it wouldn't even hurt their pocket.

Youku on the other hand must tread carefully. Like if they cannot recruit Yang Yang for S2, that would probably hurt their pockets a lot.

When Wang Lin uses the nickname Ceng Niu in Renegade Immortal, I LMAO it's so hilarious.

When Han Li uses the nickname Li Feiyu in Fanren (the donghua), I'm like OKAY... So?

This IP da suck. The anime was so stupid. They tried to stretch a stupid insignificant scene of the hero crossing a bridge to grab a sword (spirit) over what the whole friggin season 1. But they only give you bits and pieces of that ONE scene in each episode. The rest of each episode was essentially a filler with no purpose. LMAO, I never seen a stupider IP.

Quit polluting other ppl's threads with one liners dumb fuk. (As least if you're gonna do it write something more intelligent. Don't make it sound like a 10 y/o wrote it.)