In the last episode on the battle field, Zhao Che saw Huan Huan kill some guys with her double blades before disappearing into the back drop. At that point Huan Huan was already dead, so Zhao Che either saw her ghost or it was all in his mind.
I think the director made that scene so you would connect it forward to the scene where Zhuge Yue rushes on a horse to save Chu Qiao, but it was too late for her. That scene, she may we witnessing Zhuge Yue's ghost or it was all in her mind.
So, Zhuge Yue and Chu Qiao are both dead in the official tragic ending.
(But then, Zhuge Yue's grandfather's body was not found in his coffin when Zhuge Yue opened it, so there is that possibility...)
I just finished Rebirth and think it is severely underrated here. I liked all but the last episode ending.Luckily,…
The last episode is just like Season 1. You were tricked into thinking Zhuge Yue died in season 1, now they are using Chu Qiao's "death" to trick you in Season 2 to keep you in suspense mode for a possible Season 3.
I read ending of the book somewhere years ago, should be HE. They got married & kids. The alternative ending…
No I meant they were intending to follow the novel in Season 3, but they decided to come up with a plot twist where Chu Qiao supposed "died" at the end of Season 2 so they could hook viewers into watching Season 3. Of course this gimmick only works on people who never read the books.
To make their plot twist almost fool proof, they added the what-if scenes for a bunch of secondary characters to trick you into thinking the scene with Chu Qiao's kids ain't real because all other characters happy ending (or any happy ending for that matter) were only what-if reimaginings!
I had such a high expectation for this drama, I keep saying give it a try, give it a try maybe itβll get better…
It's a pretty decent drama. I just finished all 40 episodes and thought it was worth my time. I agree with the low rating, but drama certainly was NOT a waste of my time!
The one thing that stuck out to me the most. There were a few scenes where a main character was riding their horse thru a river bank that had water up to knee high. The water was being splashed everywhere maybe even into the rider's face.
Then I recall the same scenes in works by Director Zhang Jizhong. His version had water that almost looked like human sewage being splashed into the actor's face as they are riding thru knee-deep water. Ew gross! So in terms of looking hygenic and better aesthetics, Rebirth is an improvement overall!
I don't think Chu Qiao died at the end. It was more like she passed out in Zhuge Yue's arms, and then they showed you a bunch of "what-if" happy alternate scenes (to trick you into thinking any sort of happy ending for any pairing in the drama is fake occurring only in the fantasy alternate universe)
Part 1 ended with cliffhanger where Zhuge Yue supposedly died in the ice lake. Now part 2 is Chu Qiao's turn to fake her death to the viewers. You notice in both instances either ML or FL "perished" on the battlefield, so THAT smells pretty fake to me. Anyways, if Fan Xian (Joy of Life S1 can be killed then brought back to life in S2, why couldn't THIS Chu Qiao?)
I wouldn't be surprised they plan on making Season 3 where Chu Qiao wakes up on the bed of a hut after being nursed back to health by Zhuge Yue. Then the story proceeds where both ML and FL have publicly "died" so now they are free to roam the world incognito...
But other dangers lurk in the backdrop that require their heroic intervention of course!
IMO the creators and producers of DIGIMON didn't do it becoz they love POKEMON. On the contrary, they did it out of greed and attempt to steal fanbase.
Same as Wu Jing picking to star in a movie where he raises a nonbiological child like in Pegasus 1. Anyways, I could be wrong, but I think Wu Jing ranks lower now on the list of highest grossing actors in China becoz of the smashing success of PEGASUS 3!
I'm on episode 33. I just sneaked previewed ep 40. It confused the hell out of me. Did Chu Qiao really die? The…
BTW I don't know why my post got deleted, but I asked Deepseek to explain the ending and it did a way better job than any of you here! I posted its response in a forum thread above not in this comments section below
BTW, this drama is a lot more watchable than most Tencent dramas. I wouldn't decide on watching it based on the…
Nah, Tencent is only the richest production company in China becoz of revenue from mobile games, Wechat, etc. So if they make more dramas (becoz they have more money) so of course they will have more hit dramas than other companies. But the AVERAGE Tencent drama is like I'm dropping them at EP5 whereas I usually don't do that with Youku nor iQiyi...
So these days, I usually don't even bother watching EP1 of a drama if I know Tencent made it, unless I heard good things about it.
BTW, this drama is a lot more watchable than most Tencent dramas. I wouldn't decide on watching it based on the…
That's not true Tencent produces 1 good drama for every 9 bads. What u just listed is cherry picking. These days I tend to avoid Tencent dramas like the plague unless it's something like adapting a majorly popular work like Three Body, or I read good stuff about how it performed well on NetFlix (ie. Pursuit of Jade)
You(idol worshiper fans) think 6 months of training and pushing through harsh weather is some legendary achievement?…
Some people are still stuck in the past where China used manual labor sweat and toil to produce goods. Wuxia thrived becoz it was a time when China was backwards in cinema technology, so they could only entertain people with Kung Fu which is the most primitive way you could entertain someone when you're still developing.
This movie made me lose respect for Wu Jing. I didn't know he hates the star of Pegasus 3 like how Jackie Chan hates Jet Li. That explains why he went out of his way to copy Pegasus where the ML adopted a non biological son.
I don't look forward to any more of his movies. Wandering Earth is/are average popcorn flicks. Wolf Warrior 2 wasn't even all that great. It only made big office becoz it was the first Chinese movie that looked like made by Hollywood big budget and special effects, not becoz it was a particularly good movie.
Positioning itself as a continuation/sequel to Princess Agent was a mistake, as it invited direct comparison.…
I think the biggest mistake they made was to find someone who looked almost like Zhao Liying down to her short stature to play Chu Qiao. It would have been better to pretend they were making Star Wars which starts from EP IV, ie. Pretend PA1 did not exist, hire someone who can act like a general instead of looking like past portrayal of her!
I'm on episode 33. I just sneaked previewed ep 40. It confused the hell out of me. Did Chu Qiao really die? The…
BTW, this drama is a lot more watchable than most Tencent dramas. I wouldn't decide on watching it based on the low Douban score. There are Tencent dramas that scored much higher, but I felt like dropping them after 5 episodes, but not this drama!
In fact, these days I tend to avoid Tencent to focus on other producers like Youku, iQiyi, etc.
Having said all that, I think the biggest mistake they made was to find someone who looked almost like Zhao Liying down to her short stature to play Chu Qiao. It would have been better to pretend they were making Star Wars which started from EP IV not I, ie. Pretend PA1 did not exist, hire someone who can act like a general instead of looking like past portrayal of her!
Don't hire someone to conform to her past portrayal but rather let her have her own take on the FL character...
I'm on episode 33. I just sneaked previewed ep 40. It confused the hell out of me. Did Chu Qiao really die? The happy ending with two kids seemed like a dream sequence, so did she really die before she had kids?
Like I said I only previewed the last EP fast forwarding (will watch in full as I'm only on Ep 33). Did she survive to have kids after supposedly dieing in the MLs arms?
Just a quick question, seeing so many fans of "Mortal's Journey". Is anyone of you actually like Han Li IRL? You're the big bro. Your only other sibling is a mei mei. You watch her married off from a far distance and "never" see her again?
I don't understand how this is not PA2, they picked someone as close to a look-alike as ZLY to play Chu Qiao (nevermind her acting, she DOES look like ZLY now and then), and the story continues from end of PA1. So how is this not PA2?
PS watching tis drama with v low expectations (I only finished the first 2 eps so far). I already know the FL committed a scandal near same scale as Zheng Shuang/Fan BingBing so part of me is watching the drama just to "mock" personalities like her...
FOLKS, I HOPE YOU KNOW IGNORE WORKS BOTH WAYS ON MDL: You block someone, they also stop seeing your posts. You become a non-existent entity to them... So thanks for clearing up the forum clutter yourselves, saves me the trouble! π π π
I think the director made that scene so you would connect it forward to the scene where Zhuge Yue rushes on a horse to save Chu Qiao, but it was too late for her. That scene, she may we witnessing Zhuge Yue's ghost or it was all in her mind.
So, Zhuge Yue and Chu Qiao are both dead in the official tragic ending.
(But then, Zhuge Yue's grandfather's body was not found in his coffin when Zhuge Yue opened it, so there is that possibility...)
To make their plot twist almost fool proof, they added the what-if scenes for a bunch of secondary characters to trick you into thinking the scene with Chu Qiao's kids ain't real because all other characters happy ending (or any happy ending for that matter) were only what-if reimaginings!
The one thing that stuck out to me the most. There were a few scenes where a main character was riding their horse thru a river bank that had water up to knee high. The water was being splashed everywhere maybe even into the rider's face.
Then I recall the same scenes in works by Director Zhang Jizhong. His version had water that almost looked like human sewage being splashed into the actor's face as they are riding thru knee-deep water. Ew gross! So in terms of looking hygenic and better aesthetics, Rebirth is an improvement overall!
Part 1 ended with cliffhanger where Zhuge Yue supposedly died in the ice lake. Now part 2 is Chu Qiao's turn to fake her death to the viewers. You notice in both instances either ML or FL "perished" on the battlefield, so THAT smells pretty fake to me. Anyways, if Fan Xian (Joy of Life S1 can be killed then brought back to life in S2, why couldn't THIS Chu Qiao?)
I wouldn't be surprised they plan on making Season 3 where Chu Qiao wakes up on the bed of a hut after being nursed back to health by Zhuge Yue. Then the story proceeds where both ML and FL have publicly "died" so now they are free to roam the world incognito...
But other dangers lurk in the backdrop that require their heroic intervention of course!
Same as Wu Jing picking to star in a movie where he raises a nonbiological child like in Pegasus 1. Anyways, I could be wrong, but I think Wu Jing ranks lower now on the list of highest grossing actors in China becoz of the smashing success of PEGASUS 3!
So these days, I usually don't even bother watching EP1 of a drama if I know Tencent made it, unless I heard good things about it.
I wasn't convinced with any explanations of the last episode amongst the comments.
So I got Deepseek to explain it to me, which I think is the best explanation so far:
https://kisskh.at/766289-frozen-awakening/discussions/150814-how-did-the-drama-end-spoilers
I don't look forward to any more of his movies. Wandering Earth is/are average popcorn flicks. Wolf Warrior 2 wasn't even all that great. It only made big office becoz it was the first Chinese movie that looked like made by Hollywood big budget and special effects, not becoz it was a particularly good movie.
In fact, these days I tend to avoid Tencent to focus on other producers like Youku, iQiyi, etc.
Having said all that, I think the biggest mistake they made was to find someone who looked almost like Zhao Liying down to her short stature to play Chu Qiao. It would have been better to pretend they were making Star Wars which started from EP IV not I, ie. Pretend PA1 did not exist, hire someone who can act like a general instead of looking like past portrayal of her!
Don't hire someone to conform to her past portrayal but rather let her have her own take on the FL character...
Like I said I only previewed the last EP fast forwarding (will watch in full as I'm only on Ep 33). Did she survive to have kids after supposedly dieing in the MLs arms?
PS watching tis drama with v low expectations (I only finished the first 2 eps so far). I already know the FL committed a scandal near same scale as Zheng Shuang/Fan BingBing so part of me is watching the drama just to "mock" personalities like her...