Hey everyone is happy he tried to kill that dude ... ? Heck no, that's going too far and telling ppl to hate and curse ... ? heck no. that works initially as a start up fuel to fight, but totally backfires in the long run. Those ppl should channel their hard feelings into organizing neighborhood watch or something like that
Dont create hype and drama for the sake of filling episodes
I am happy that somehow magically the dad, daughter and son SUDDENLY became caring people who can talk and step forward and own it. But that process... was too murky. It was like AS SOON AS MOM DIED, EVERYONE MAGICALLY BECAME A BETTER PERSON. Hm yeah... ? And I am glad to see that baggage came from newcomers, like .. Daniel's mom who is a total nasty snake narcissist... etc
Also - why sell that house??? A house is Seoul! the value keeps going up and up!!!! why not rent the campground or buy something cheap, and let the kids live in the house and raise their own families... ? Just a thought. If that house is in a good location and in a good shape... But still, I would hang onto it, Seoul prices must be going up like crazy, in a few years maybe he could buy 10 campgrounds... But yeaj the campground land is also going up LOL as Seoul expands.... So they gotta get in before Seoul gets there....
The son with the cheater, obviously a deal breaker. Didn't like her from the start. But the dad just trying to…
A bitter nasty kid like that means 1. his dad abandoned him and does not take good care of him and does not spend enough time. 2. his mom is the same 3. the kid is alone and dumping what he has to say to his mom and dad ..... onto dad's gfriend
any good kdrama this year 🤔completed:CasheroA Hundred MemoriesUndercover High SchoolStudy GroupLove ScoutWatchingIdol…
Dream Life of Mr Kim, Love Tracks, Walking on Thin Ice, Haunted Palace, even First Night with the Duke if you have time or fluffy, whizz through Bon Apettit Your Majesty just to see the birth of the new star the ML actor, and you might like Dont Call me Maam and Tempest.
I dropped everything you dropped LOL except Typhoon bc I wanted to learn about IMF, the drama itself was mediocre at best
SURELY They are tired of breaking up? because i am tired of watching them break up 😤
I just started watching, but it is clear FL is addicted to alcohol and pills and using ML as a crutch. Yeah if I were him, I would be pissed and would keep breaking up with her.
This drama did everything to justify FL behavior. Still everything revolves around her. Their love story doesn't…
I just started watching, but it is clear FL is addicted to alcohol and pills and using ML as a crutch. Yeah if I were him, I would be pissed and would keep breaking up with her.
This is getting on my nerves. They're always breaking up, it's getting tiresome.
she is an addict to alcohol and pills, and has been using him as her teddy bear and psychiatric nurse babysitter. On try #1 he did not know, and he was acting as her enabler. Seems like it continued. I didnt watch past ep 1 yet.
Omg I missed 10 episodes by mistake, I mixed up this drama with another one which imo was trash... Ooooh time to catch up!!!! So this is Park Seo Joon comeback drama? I missed him all these years, what was he doing... ? Well this drama might be worth watching just for him then. I am gonna watch. He is a great comedian.... etc. I started ep 1 and it is great, I love it - except alcohol. Korea definitely has a problem with it. And FL too... And except hair in ML's eyes. I want to see his eyes. i also want to feed FL, she is so skinny. And I am concerned about all these "psychiatric pills" so common in kdramas now.. eeek
ML and FL actors are amazing, and the script seems tight so far. Yay.
I can see why he cursed her, she is basically an alcohol and pills addict with heavy family issues that she never resolves, and she used him as her comfort teddy bear and psychiatric nurse babysitter. Very very very unfair. Yeah get a grip lady.
So this drama is really about ML's relationship with addict FL.
But Jang Gun Yeong also was at the same war and he was wounded, they confirmed it earlier. I would like some scenes…
Yes, I agree... different people make different choices based on the same conditions.... bc of who they are. "Whatever is in the pot, leaks out"..... Or, the trauma could be too much and makes a normal person flip out and become a monster. Like... "Lonesome Dove" boy captured and tortured by Apaches. BGT was (born?) and raised in Japan ... so he definitely experienced mistreatment... Plus... was he one of the 5 mil that Japanese colonizers moved during WW2 and before as forced labor...? was he related to Korean comfort women for Japanese soldiers... ? who knows... but in any case, BGT has seen oppression and his response was to become an oppressor LOL His sister is a dumb criminal, and his brother seems more righteous so far, but is ambitious and a great liar and backstabber too. They are aware there is a system and it is to be cheated.
I also expected BGT to throw a bomb into that Vietkong tunnel hole... bc that historially happened... Logically, it was too weird and dangerous to have bulky tall BGT going alone into the tunnel. That job is for "tunnel rats." It must be BGT who slashed the throat of someone in the tunnel... so he did show that attitude "I do whatever".
FYI I googled the president they keep mentioning in the drama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Chung_Hee He ruled 1963 -1979. He sent about 320,000 S Koreans to Vietnam war and they were known as brutal towards the civilians there... Well nothing new if they thought of Vietnamese as "lesser," since Korean commoners were brutally treated by the nobles, per historical kdramas .... Anyways, President Park was military trained by Japanese and totally pro Japanese.... and pro-american https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_in_the_Vietnam_War
Koreans also fought against Japanese brutal ruling, indirect and direct, for like ... hundred? years and officially colonizing Korea 1910-1945... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule In 1910, there were 13 mil Koreans... Then 25 million in 1939, population density similar to Japan, and about 5 million forcefully moved by Japanese to work for WW2... Japanese did all kinds of stuff - Korean comfort women, genocide, forbidding the culture, etc. Wow the history of that part of the world is brutal - as usual, globally :( How can such tiny Japan do so much? bc it had 50 mil ppl in 1910, while Korea had only 13 million ppl. Now Japan has 125 mil ppl ... on 378000 km² .... wow It is about a third of population of the entire USA but squished into less space than California. CALI HAS 40 MILL PPL ...on 424000 km² AND IS THE MOST HIGHLY POPULATED IN THE USA AND CONSIDERED OVERCROWDED.
The president (Park) mentioned in this drama was a military trained by Japanese, he did a miliatary coup, and ran the coutnry in a military way... He also created chaebols and started rapid economic growth with huge companies like Hyundai, LT, Samsung ( some existed during the Japanese occupation)... He was ousted in 1979 but the military continued ruling until 1987 democracy. The catch 22: .... the same guys were elected then and later anyways LOL .e.g. Park's friends and daughter was later presidents... Luckily, S Korea has a "delicate but resilient democracy" and S Koreans are known for jailing, impeaching, and fining their corrupt presidents.... In 2001, Koreans paid those IMF loans in record 3 yrs, we saw Typhoon Family drama
In 2025, there are about 52 mil S Koreans on 100,440 km² and about 26 mil N Koreans... S Korea has the lowest birth rate in the world and is dying off (S Korea birth rate. is 0.75 and 2.1 is needed for a stable population)... N Korea still has proper birth rate, so I suspect, one day, both Koreas will HAVE TO merge.... S Korea is one of the 4 Asian Tigers, i.e. has the 4th largest economy in Asia (after China, India, Japan) and the 13th or 14th largest in the world... (after USA, China, Germany, Japan, India, UK, France, Itally, Russia, Canada, Brazil, Spain, Mexico). Wow fascinating.
All my data from the Internet. I have no personal knowledge of any of this. Except that kdramas are not perfect but are still the most sophisticated and most watchable entertainment globally :) So the ad money is pouring in and we see bread, fried chicken, catholic churches, depressing plots with all bad guys and no way out, etc If it continues like this, it might just go down as an asian hollywood
=== The list of top 14 economies in the world got me thinking bc the countries listed are NOT all know for good standards of living. We all tend to think of Mexico and Brazil as poor but there they are, in the top.... The USA is now offically a flawed democracy witih standard of living globally rated as 15 if you dont consider inequalty, and 27th in the world if you do consider inequality LOL SO FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, THE USA IS NOT #1 BY FAR. In 2017, under Trump, fast under the radar, Republican Congress increased taxes a lot for everyone but the ultra rich and reduced a lot / got rid of taxes for ultra rich... but .. the standard of living fell down... they cut out all kinds of public funds... increased war-related spending... So ... how was Trump elected in 2024 ...??! LOL that says a lot about that country.... Small business and middle class were mostly destroyed... Now owning property is going away, as there is an EPIDEMIC OF STEALING HOMES, esp HOA and condos ... but private houses too... and HOAs use owners as cash cows.... and all under the pretense of the law and the bad guys using legal system to shut up ppl talking about it... Google non-judicial and judicial foreclosures.... Georgia, Hawaii, are the worst.. FL took some action in some areas - bc it is wealthy retirees LOL google "FL attorney general" on Hammock caseand common HOA gross violations of Constitutional rights to free speech and due process... The USA is a total communism / autocracy / dictatorship CHAOS... The Constitution is a joke these days.... Add to that lack of education, poor reading, writing and math skills, national emergency for lack of trained computer professionals... Add to that zillion marijuana shops in person and online, and over 60% of ppl using recreational drugs... Add to that epidemics of crystal meth for poor and opioids / pain killers / antidepressants / stimulants / etc etc etc !!! for the wealthier...... and highway signs saying "don't get high and drive". Add to that Tinder app and their ads plastered EVERYWHERE for "your love for the night" and billboards in big cities about epidemics of SYPHILIS, !!!! yeah did you expect that... ? AIDS, every third american has genital herpes, etc etc.... Add to that about 50% not marrying and most married divorcing after 2-3 years and most kids growing with a single mom... The USA looks very much like movie Idiocracy (2006) and a lot worse bc of drugs... The USA already lost it, and trying to put up a wall to save itself LOL Like Old Roman Empire, falling apart in its own decadence.. So who is the next global superpower?
The usa is a global superpower in global pollution: #1 globally in generating trash: 4% of world population creating 15% of world's garbage, , ... #1 in historical emissions that created global warming and still #2 globally in emissions... During Trump's first presidency already, National land and resources were given to private companies, labor and environmental laws slashed, etc etc etc... Artic was open for drilling, significantly increasing CO2 global emissions... Even worse, liquid gas ban was lifted and the USA now drills for and EXPORTS liquid gas, which causes huuuuge global warming... Also, all big agg farms with animals pooping methane add to global warming... Lots of plastic adds too...
But we are all in this together... Per Census, the USA went from 92 mil in 1910 to 350 mil in 2025, and white becoming minority by 2040, and some USA states already have white as minority. White youth is already a minority..... Europe has big time negative population growth and has to import immigrants and refugees, most of whom are from Middle East or Africa. European countries now have many elected fashist governments, the USA has a fun-to-watch-loud corrupt autocrat of questionable ethics /mental capacity / stability and a former porn star at the front, and Japan has some prime minister who flaunts Japanese past imperialism. So which one of those lunatics is gonna push some red button? Let us have a bet :) If not them, then some old decrepid falling apart nuclear power plant totally overworked and blasting, like Ukraine's Chernobyl. You can get a bride by mail from there still... nobody wants irradiated women. This paragraph is mostly from my personal experience plus official statistics.
Although I am definitely not a fan of this drama, it is useful for learning like this.
I think you got it right about them swapping and "the first man" ... The swap will either be some memory…
wow why do you think she would die??? if anything, the nice one would get killed by bad guys.... For the swap to work, both have to live, otherwise it will be noticed; unless it is done with willing permission of sidedish family, e.g. revenge
I loved the voice over as soon as ep 5 starts :) He spoke about same causes for war and him a soldier being the fodder for someone else to rise. He is so smart! How come he did not continue to be that smart... ?
And I can see the pain that shaped him. But, he lost the faith in Higher Power, so unlike lillies in the field... It is good to know how to self defend, but it is an absolute NO to grabbing from others. Yeah yeah ppl then engage in bsing how this or that is self defense but anyone with some iq knows what is right and what is wrong. Nobody escapes the Law of Karma aka Judgment.
This drama is only about ignoramuses who grab and their grabbing fights. There is only one decent character and he is a naive fool. The drama is made to show that evil is always more powerful. Indeed this one lasted quite a few years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Chung_Hee But .... as usual... he was kicked to the curb. Congrats to all ppl who did not emigrate out of Korea during those tough times
sooner or later, an evil person is kicked to the curb bc somehow, the karma strikes back - e.g.. someone more evil takes over LOL the victims bite back, etc.
I like that ppl in this drama communicate so the plot moves faster than usual mud slow :) There is no way to tell where it goes from here :) except that the twins will swap .... And I suspect "First Man" is bc the first man they met is their man - Rich Twin with the Cook and the Cook Twin with the Lawyer. They match better that way I love the swindler mother-daughter duo and how smart and capable they are LOL and the sly old fox Chairman... and would like to know the name of the psychiatric condition / mental illness of the lap dog of CEO Hwa - he has been loyal to her for like 35 years!!! and paid by abuse... !!!! and now added insult to injury - she is now dating a married guy... so... will this lapdog go rabid asap...??? bite the owner and run? I think he SHOULD :)
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and telling ppl to hate and curse ... ? heck no. that works initially as a start up fuel to fight, but totally backfires in the long run. Those ppl should channel their hard feelings into organizing neighborhood watch or something like that
Dont create hype and drama for the sake of filling episodes
The rest is cool
And I am glad to see that baggage came from newcomers, like .. Daniel's mom who is a total nasty snake narcissist... etc
Also - why sell that house??? A house is Seoul! the value keeps going up and up!!!! why not rent the campground or buy something cheap, and let the kids live in the house and raise their own families... ? Just a thought. If that house is in a good location and in a good shape... But still, I would hang onto it, Seoul prices must be going up like crazy, in a few years maybe he could buy 10 campgrounds... But yeaj the campground land is also going up LOL as Seoul expands.... So they gotta get in before Seoul gets there....
I dropped everything you dropped LOL except Typhoon bc I wanted to learn about IMF, the drama itself was mediocre at best
This particular one is an enabler. FL was / still is? an addict and kept using him as her "nurse", so until she works through it, nothing can happen
HAS she become clean and sober yet... ?
HAS she become clean and sober yet... ?
So this is Park Seo Joon comeback drama? I missed him all these years, what was he doing... ? Well this drama might be worth watching just for him then. I am gonna watch. He is a great comedian.... etc.
I started ep 1 and it is great, I love it - except alcohol. Korea definitely has a problem with it. And FL too... And except hair in ML's eyes. I want to see his eyes. i also want to feed FL, she is so skinny. And I am concerned about all these "psychiatric pills" so common in kdramas now.. eeek
ML and FL actors are amazing, and the script seems tight so far. Yay.
I can see why he cursed her, she is basically an alcohol and pills addict with heavy family issues that she never resolves, and she used him as her comfort teddy bear and psychiatric nurse babysitter. Very very very unfair. Yeah get a grip lady.
So this drama is really about ML's relationship with addict FL.
I also expected BGT to throw a bomb into that Vietkong tunnel hole... bc that historially happened... Logically, it was too weird and dangerous to have bulky tall BGT going alone into the tunnel. That job is for "tunnel rats." It must be BGT who slashed the throat of someone in the tunnel... so he did show that attitude "I do whatever".
FYI I googled the president they keep mentioning in the drama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Chung_Hee He ruled 1963 -1979. He sent about 320,000 S Koreans to Vietnam war and they were known as brutal towards the civilians there... Well nothing new if they thought of Vietnamese as "lesser," since Korean commoners were brutally treated by the nobles, per historical kdramas .... Anyways, President Park was military trained by Japanese and totally pro Japanese.... and pro-american https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_in_the_Vietnam_War
Koreans also fought against Japanese brutal ruling, indirect and direct, for like ... hundred? years and officially colonizing Korea 1910-1945... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule In 1910, there were 13 mil Koreans... Then 25 million in 1939, population density similar to Japan, and about 5 million forcefully moved by Japanese to work for WW2... Japanese did all kinds of stuff - Korean comfort women, genocide, forbidding the culture, etc. Wow the history of that part of the world is brutal - as usual, globally :(
How can such tiny Japan do so much? bc it had 50 mil ppl in 1910, while Korea had only 13 million ppl. Now Japan has 125 mil ppl ... on 378000 km² .... wow It is about a third of population of the entire USA but squished into less space than California. CALI HAS 40 MILL PPL ...on 424000 km² AND IS THE MOST HIGHLY POPULATED IN THE USA AND CONSIDERED OVERCROWDED.
The president (Park) mentioned in this drama was a military trained by Japanese, he did a miliatary coup, and ran the coutnry in a military way... He also created chaebols and started rapid economic growth with huge companies like Hyundai, LT, Samsung ( some existed during the Japanese occupation)... He was ousted in 1979 but the military continued ruling until 1987 democracy. The catch 22: .... the same guys were elected then and later anyways LOL .e.g. Park's friends and daughter was later presidents... Luckily, S Korea has a "delicate but resilient democracy" and S Koreans are known for jailing, impeaching, and fining their corrupt presidents.... In 2001, Koreans paid those IMF loans in record 3 yrs, we saw Typhoon Family drama
In 2025, there are about 52 mil S Koreans on 100,440 km² and about 26 mil N Koreans...
S Korea has the lowest birth rate in the world and is dying off (S Korea birth rate. is 0.75 and 2.1 is needed for a stable population)... N Korea still has proper birth rate, so I suspect, one day, both Koreas will HAVE TO merge....
S Korea is one of the 4 Asian Tigers, i.e. has the 4th largest economy in Asia (after China, India, Japan) and the 13th or 14th largest in the world... (after USA, China, Germany, Japan, India, UK, France, Itally, Russia, Canada, Brazil, Spain, Mexico). Wow fascinating.
All my data from the Internet. I have no personal knowledge of any of this. Except that kdramas are not perfect but are still the most sophisticated and most watchable entertainment globally :) So the ad money is pouring in and we see bread, fried chicken, catholic churches, depressing plots with all bad guys and no way out, etc If it continues like this, it might just go down as an asian hollywood
===
The list of top 14 economies in the world got me thinking bc the countries listed are NOT all know for good standards of living. We all tend to think of Mexico and Brazil as poor but there they are, in the top.... The USA is now offically a flawed democracy witih standard of living globally rated as 15 if you dont consider inequalty, and 27th in the world if you do consider inequality LOL SO FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, THE USA IS NOT #1 BY FAR. In 2017, under Trump, fast under the radar, Republican Congress increased taxes a lot for everyone but the ultra rich and reduced a lot / got rid of taxes for ultra rich... but .. the standard of living fell down... they cut out all kinds of public funds... increased war-related spending... So ... how was Trump elected in 2024 ...??! LOL that says a lot about that country....
Small business and middle class were mostly destroyed...
Now owning property is going away, as there is an EPIDEMIC OF STEALING HOMES, esp HOA and condos ... but private houses too... and HOAs use owners as cash cows.... and all under the pretense of the law and the bad guys using legal system to shut up ppl talking about it... Google non-judicial and judicial foreclosures.... Georgia, Hawaii, are the worst.. FL took some action in some areas - bc it is wealthy retirees LOL google "FL attorney general" on Hammock caseand common HOA gross violations of Constitutional rights to free speech and due process... The USA is a total communism / autocracy / dictatorship CHAOS... The Constitution is a joke these days.... Add to that lack of education, poor reading, writing and math skills, national emergency for lack of trained computer professionals... Add to that zillion marijuana shops in person and online, and over 60% of ppl using recreational drugs... Add to that epidemics of crystal meth for poor and opioids / pain killers / antidepressants / stimulants / etc etc etc !!! for the wealthier...... and highway signs saying "don't get high and drive". Add to that Tinder app and their ads plastered EVERYWHERE for "your love for the night" and billboards in big cities about epidemics of SYPHILIS, !!!! yeah did you expect that... ? AIDS, every third american has genital herpes, etc etc.... Add to that about 50% not marrying and most married divorcing after 2-3 years and most kids growing with a single mom... The USA looks very much like movie Idiocracy (2006) and a lot worse bc of drugs... The USA already lost it, and trying to put up a wall to save itself LOL Like Old Roman Empire, falling apart in its own decadence.. So who is the next global superpower?
The usa is a global superpower in global pollution:
#1 globally in generating trash: 4% of world population creating 15% of world's garbage, , ...
#1 in historical emissions that created global warming and still #2 globally in emissions...
During Trump's first presidency already, National land and resources were given to private companies, labor and environmental laws slashed, etc etc etc... Artic was open for drilling, significantly increasing CO2 global emissions... Even worse, liquid gas ban was lifted and the USA now drills for and EXPORTS liquid gas, which causes huuuuge global warming... Also, all big agg farms with animals pooping methane add to global warming... Lots of plastic adds too...
But we are all in this together...
Per Census, the USA went from 92 mil in 1910 to 350 mil in 2025, and white becoming minority by 2040, and some USA states already have white as minority. White youth is already a minority..... Europe has big time negative population growth and has to import immigrants and refugees, most of whom are from Middle East or Africa. European countries now have many elected fashist governments, the USA has a fun-to-watch-loud corrupt autocrat of questionable ethics /mental capacity / stability and a former porn star at the front, and Japan has some prime minister who flaunts Japanese past imperialism. So which one of those lunatics is gonna push some red button? Let us have a bet :) If not them, then some old decrepid falling apart nuclear power plant totally overworked and blasting, like Ukraine's Chernobyl. You can get a bride by mail from there still... nobody wants irradiated women.
This paragraph is mostly from my personal experience plus official statistics.
Although I am definitely not a fan of this drama, it is useful for learning like this.
And I can see the pain that shaped him. But, he lost the faith in Higher Power, so unlike lillies in the field...
It is good to know how to self defend, but it is an absolute NO to grabbing from others. Yeah yeah ppl then engage in bsing how this or that is self defense but anyone with some iq knows what is right and what is wrong. Nobody escapes the Law of Karma aka Judgment.
This drama is only about ignoramuses who grab and their grabbing fights. There is only one decent character and he is a naive fool. The drama is made to show that evil is always more powerful. Indeed this one lasted quite a few years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Chung_Hee But .... as usual... he was kicked to the curb. Congrats to all ppl who did not emigrate out of Korea during those tough times
sooner or later, an evil person is kicked to the curb bc somehow, the karma strikes back - e.g.. someone more evil takes over LOL the victims bite back, etc.
I love the swindler mother-daughter duo and how smart and capable they are LOL and the sly old fox Chairman...
and would like to know the name of the psychiatric condition / mental illness of the lap dog of CEO Hwa - he has been loyal to her for like 35 years!!! and paid by abuse... !!!! and now added insult to injury - she is now dating a married guy... so... will this lapdog go rabid asap...??? bite the owner and run? I think he SHOULD :)