Queen's House was different and that is why it is officially my FIRST daily ever :) It started super dumb and…
Oh so there is 1 family daily and 2 revenges? Ok good to know! I tried MaRi and her 3 daddies... well... it is filmed so poorly and the acting is so bad and the script is ... blah cheesy, so I dropped that fast. There was no reason to watch it :) Plus Ma Ri is westernized as Marie, which is disgusting. Kissing up to american $$$ audience.
I was wondering WHY I was watching Queen's House, Graceful Liar and WWSTS and I got my answers recently, there was something I had to learn from those :) I had to learn about feeling a victim, wanting revenge, etc. WWSTS taught me about the importance of music in a drama. First it was over the top dramatic and loud and thus distracting. It took me a while to figure that out. WHY my head was hurting when I watched the drama. I complained a lot. Then the music got more discreet and matching the action, so the drama became a lot more watchable. Queen's House and Graceful Liar have MASTERFUL acting and plots that are not too bad. WWSTS has SJ as a great actor, he turned his very simple role and script into something quite complex and fun
=== I love family dramas bc they are most complex, with most characters, most complex plot and relationships, and most character growth, since they have the time to show it. So I always watch 50 ep family dramas
but ... just recently there was Iron Family (except the end) and now Our Golden Days that are really good. Since 2020, others were mostly flops. Maybe except watching ML actors acting in 3 bold siblings and Young Lady and Gentleman and ML and FL actors acting in Beauty and Mr ROmantic. 3 Bold Siblings, Live your Own Life. The REal Has Come, and It is Beautiful Now were ... mediocre at best partially bc FL were totally unskilled and very cold remote unengaged actresses with zero chemistry to their ML, it was so bland cold and frustrating to watch. when HALF of your drama is just wasted bc some chick just stands there like a totem pole.
any LGBT things in here? if yes, I wouldn't watch it
Hm, you are not disturbed to see straight characters kissing in big view in front of camera for a long time, in detail, and scenes of straight ppl jumping into bed taking clothes off etc... ? Why?
This drama has a tiny bit of racy straight lovemaking, so far. There is a girl pair but shown only talking ... No physical scenes except seeing some BL and GL ppl kiss from afar... One second lead is a bi... Why skip the drama just bc it has something lgbt? This drama shows them as a matter-of-fact in life and does not dwell on them. There is nothing shown that COULD offend you. Unless you straight out hate them. Why such phobia? bc you are afraid you are one of them? Or you believe you are superior? or you are afraid THEY are superior and will turn the entire world gay if they ar allowed to exist? LGBT are threat only to those who insist on having children so that there can be ... many ppl paying the dues, many soldiers and workers, ... Yeah you are right, if S Korea openly promotes them, they might go extinct LOL with the lowest birth rate in the world..
To be honest, WHY would you care what lgbt ppl are doing... ? They seem wired that way anyways, regardless of trying to eradicate them, they will not change, they would just hide and cause chaos ... imagine dating or married to a closet gay... ....
And .... The world certainly does not need more babies, so ,...... leave those ppl be.... even countries with super low birth rates gave up trying to have more kids and just import immigrants.. Church needs many members for inlfuence and money.... and condemns lgbt.... e but so many wealthy gays are in church and donating so the whole topic is just a farse, saying those ppl are bad but also allowing them as long as they keep it relatively quiet
let lgbt be open about it so that there is less suffering and confusion and everyone can be clear who they are with... or else... karma might bite your sweet a@@ and you end up dating a closet gay or it turns out you are gay LOL
So in ep 116 all the cards are out ... What COULD happen next... ? NINE episodes....?? CAN our heroes attack to self defend?
Is Lucia in a position to threaten the Chairman? in other words: IS LUCIA'S EVIDENCE EFFECTIVE AND ADMISSIBLE IN COURT?
One person says yes, since the papers and hankie prove that the chairman was involved.
Another person says no, since there is no proof that the Chairman stole the papers and that he is the murderer, anyone could put JPS blood on Chairman's henkie..
TK said that the papers were not admissible in court bc they were stolen. Why?
So what is actually true here? ANyone with legal expertise? Thanks.
This is like the shootout in a cowboy movie, when they all stand on the street and shoot LOL
I hear you... the discussion helps me to see things I did not see, different points of view and also sheer facts i just missed from the drama.... The key points often just flash by in a second... So I watch after a few episodes, a week at most.
How is this different than Lucia's blind yelling about Mi So at the start of the drama?
Aha that makes sense about the hankie... I do not understand the legal issues here... IF THERE IS A CCTV IN CHAIRMAN'S OFFICE so Lucia can prove she took it out of his drawer i.e. he had it? So... Those papers are illegal now since they were stolen from Pan Su? Why? I dont understand wht TK was saying about stolen evidence as inadmissible... It flashed on the screen, so did I see it correctly that the papers were signed by Pan Sul, not the Chairman? So what is the actual physical evidence that the Charmain and TK's parents had a contract about TK's parents' technology? Hm so that means Pan Sul should testify about that connection... ?
Thanks for explaining it
So the bottom line is: Lucia is a lot more proactive than before, but lacks the mental ability and technical knowledge to come up with strategies that will work... ?
Queen's House was different and that is why it is officially my FIRST daily ever :) It started super dumb and…
That is why I do not watch them LOL this is exception bc my staple KBS family drama slot failed (Eagle Brothers SUC@ED ) so I looked for something else family then it was convenient only 30 mins to spare.. and then Queen's house turned interesting. So I tried Graceful Liar and WWSTS
No character change whatsoever in Lucia. She is more calm and more sleek and thats it. The same grainless emotional…
I somewhat changed my mind after seeing ep 116 when she pulled out the hankie ... She learned something, seems like, and is more active in protecting But she has not learned self reflection, etc At least she learned something :)
thanks , now I know I won't be watching it.. trash
@Tharr LOL so you wrote that nasty comment just because you were offended that I said you lack creativity? well you proved my point LOL you cannot discuss but want to be defensive..
The issue is that your right brain and your heart are shut down, so you cannot feel and cannot See the Big Picture or the finer points of what I described AND YOU DID NOT WANT FEEDBACK. YOU JUST WANTED TO SHUT ME UP :)
you dont want feedback unless it is a praise? you want feedback as a nit picking dissection? Unless I know exactly which trumpet made a mistake, I cannot say if I like the song or not? And my feedback about specifics I liked and disliked is not good to you? I was quite specific..
Read the list of things you asked me to evaluate, it is straight from a class on film critique LOL super technical Sure a comment like "I dont like the food bc it is burned" is an appropriate comment but you asked for a lot more than that. Also the issues I described and the likes are a lot finer than "food is burnt" You are asking me to explain why I liked something...
you should follow your own recipe and explain why the bi guy liked that "fat ugly unpopular chick". Do you even know? CAN you even know?
And you dont value what I did say about what I liked and disliked and why ... SO IF YOU DO NOT WANT FEEDBACK, THEN WHY ASK FOR IT??
LOL so I need a PhD and YOUR list of standardized objective things to comment on to comment if I like or not like it? That is arrogant and useless NITPICKING BUREAUCRACY, besides lacking creativity :)
your list sounds like what is used for grading a report in a classroom. Are you some kind of professor? LOL Or an interviewer? Or some grant-giver? Olympic judge? Or some advertiser trying to figure out what sells? Just to let you know, your little questionairre to make it look objective and standardized does NOT work in real life. In real life, PEOPLE LIKE OR DISLIKE AND THEY USE IT OR NOT USE IT, THEY PAY MONEY TO WATCH OR THEY DO NOT.
Only advertisers and manipulators look for specifics they can exploit :) and yeah this nitpicky kind of logic is very useful to them and they always collect it :)
As for ordinary ppl, EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO HAVE THEIR OPINION AND LIKE AND DISLIKE :)
Bye bye farawell LOL there is no point in talking with you :)
thanks , now I know I won't be watching it.. trash
@Tharr so in summary, sexuality is dependent on proper diet and lifestyle, physical, mental spiritual health... and imo the East knows a lot more about body and sexuality than the West and so do not blindly believe some magazine or "cool" things... The West is just faking sexual, human and relationship proficiency... LOL they aint got it... All those flashy sexy looking people and things are just a mirage LOL The contribution of the West is openly and honestly talking about things. Including environment and women. For centuries, patriarchy exploited and oppressed Nature and women. The contribution of kdramas is showing meaningful human relationships and character growth, individually and within the fabric of the society. Recently, the hard core sexism is starting to break so kdrama heroines are more real women with common sense and do not depend on the ML to save them and guide them since they are so dumb and hopeless they need a backing. In this kdrama, we see that ML at first was portrayed as dumb but by ep 8 it is clear he is not so dumb, he is a master of relationships and he understands lying. How he caught his manager is masterful.... How he tried to help FL is masterful... He is not well educated in modern ways and may not understand very analytical things LOL He is honest, caring, kind, and communicates openly. FL is a real person, also honest and communicates openly. Both of them are hard working honest people with integrity. There is no alcohol and issues.... They meet "in the middle of the chapter" of their lives and now they are starting to mesh their lives as a pair. So from there, this is a start of a good love story. Do not ruin it with some flashy shocking product placement that might tickle the audience but take away from the content. Sure show the issues but do not let them take over. Where to draw the line ... is a trick question.
thanks , now I know I won't be watching it.. trash
PS sorry for being lengthy but you asked... LOL and I am procrastinating with dealing with super toxic draining topic, having to write complaints against attorneys and judges stealing homes in Hawaii under pretense of law... So this is more intresting for sure LOL So you asked me for a more specific opinion, and here it is...
This is like the shootout in a cowboy movie, when they all stand on the street and shoot LOL
Good idea. I am watching a few ep at a time and it works. Thanks for the shootout :) I learned something today. I think high noon is bc it is easy for all to know what time it is and also, the sun is equal to both parties and not going into their eyes. The most unfair shootout would be dawn or sunset bc all that sun would be going into the eyes of the guys facing the sun :) it is like a guaranteed death for them :)
I suspected that there is a lot more to Se Hun's character than meets the eye of meek mama boy who also hides…
We got to see Se Hun as a sexual psycho, torturing RealYC with his half naked body in utmost arrogant confidence. Wow that dude is gonna be causing problems... !!! HE FEELS TOTALLY ENTITLED.... and the only thing preventing him from showing his true colors so far is his "love" for FakeYC.... and she is going to "dissolve into thin air" in a second....
And he is sooo naive to keep blindly sticking to JW... why? Love? Lust? A nice new toy? .... But JW does not love him. She is just getting a high on his attention and love. When he finally figures that out... plus that she was deceiving him and using him... well...
Ough... what is next? Se Hun, the wild card... what move will he make?
Now he has no money anymore, and definitely JW has none, will he still be in love?
And... RealYC.... is after him..... As we suspected. And we all predicted she will catch him. But did you expect it to be like what we saw in the shower??? RealYC is quite some racy lewd lose character...who loves to commit crime, she said.... A criminal. She admitted she does not really like him but is seducing him as a part of her game
I suspected that there is a lot more to Se Hun's character than meets the eye of meek mama boy who also hides this streak of power-loving cruelty like his dad... But the shower scene was something else. And anyone who said SH was not interesting or handsome, will have to eat their words :)
Sooooo..... Ough... what is next? Se Hun, the wild card... what move will he make?
How is this different than Lucia's blind yelling about Mi So at the start of the drama?
Oh I forgot that Pan Sul reported it to police. So ... why was TK saying those papers are not admissible in court then.... ? It is like Lucia found stolen property.... Maybe TK did not know Pan Sul reported it... ?
The end of ep 44 Sweet Serial Killer Chairman talking to RealYC and then with JW - wow that is scary!!!! That actor is so good!!! he was totally totally TERRIFYING in those scenes!!! The camera made it even more so, with his face over the whole screen, as the victim would see it before he devoured them... WOW!!!! then seeiing it from the side, how small JW is compared to him... and the fear in RealYC and JW when talking with him... And his eyes and demeanor... changing into I WILL EAT YOU threat... while the voice still stays polite... and says he will kill you ... AAAH SOOOO CREEPY HORRIFYING, MEETING A PREDATOR READY TO KILL YOU!!!!! I think that is how a victim must feel when that tall innocent yellow grass turns out to be a hungry lion... it is like meeting a monster face to face!!!! The camouflage fell off and you can see what is behind that sweet polite face... utmost cruelty.... This is one of best horror scenes ever!!!! esp since he is so much bigger than those skinny chicks - he is like twice th size of JW when they sat facing each other.... btw did you see RealYC legs when she got out of HR's talk??? she is like a skeleton.... Anyways, that Chairman ... added a horror element to this drama. He is worse than a nightmare....
There is this whole discussion: is JW doing a revenge or a greedy grab. IT is like a chicken and the egg question, but I do believe that the GREED is the starting point
JW said she wanted the riches. And she is getting them by taking them away, in the same way it was done to her.
So... what's th point here... ??? this is a competition of who is the worst
JW needs to go to some kind of therapy where she learns to self reflect and stop being a petty whiner causing chaos in so many people's lives. Yeah many ppl have difficult lives and JW is just one of many.... . So then join the club, and put your time and effort where it REALLY counts. GROW, JW. You got about 55 episodes left to do so...
and JW actress should be sent to a crash course in acting .
Plus, MDS has bought the police
I tried MaRi and her 3 daddies... well... it is filmed so poorly and the acting is so bad and the script is ... blah cheesy, so I dropped that fast. There was no reason to watch it :) Plus Ma Ri is westernized as Marie, which is disgusting. Kissing up to american $$$ audience.
I was wondering WHY I was watching Queen's House, Graceful Liar and WWSTS and I got my answers recently, there was something I had to learn from those :) I had to learn about feeling a victim, wanting revenge, etc.
WWSTS taught me about the importance of music in a drama. First it was over the top dramatic and loud and thus distracting. It took me a while to figure that out. WHY my head was hurting when I watched the drama. I complained a lot. Then the music got more discreet and matching the action, so the drama became a lot more watchable.
Queen's House and Graceful Liar have MASTERFUL acting and plots that are not too bad.
WWSTS has SJ as a great actor, he turned his very simple role and script into something quite complex and fun
===
I love family dramas bc they are most complex, with most characters, most complex plot and relationships, and most character growth, since they have the time to show it. So I always watch 50 ep family dramas
but ... just recently there was Iron Family (except the end) and now Our Golden Days that are really good. Since 2020, others were mostly flops. Maybe except watching ML actors acting in 3 bold siblings and Young Lady and Gentleman and ML and FL actors acting in Beauty and Mr ROmantic. 3 Bold Siblings, Live your Own Life. The REal Has Come, and It is Beautiful Now were ... mediocre at best partially bc FL were totally unskilled and very cold remote unengaged actresses with zero chemistry to their ML, it was so bland cold and frustrating to watch. when HALF of your drama is just wasted bc some chick just stands there like a totem pole.
Why?
This drama has a tiny bit of racy straight lovemaking, so far.
There is a girl pair but shown only talking ... No physical scenes except seeing some BL and GL ppl kiss from afar... One second lead is a bi...
Why skip the drama just bc it has something lgbt? This drama shows them as a matter-of-fact in life and does not dwell on them. There is nothing shown that COULD offend you. Unless you straight out hate them. Why such phobia? bc you are afraid you are one of them? Or you believe you are superior? or you are afraid THEY are superior and will turn the entire world gay if they ar allowed to exist? LGBT are threat only to those who insist on having children so that there can be ... many ppl paying the dues, many soldiers and workers, ... Yeah you are right, if S Korea openly promotes them, they might go extinct LOL with the lowest birth rate in the world..
To be honest, WHY would you care what lgbt ppl are doing... ? They seem wired that way anyways, regardless of trying to eradicate them, they will not change, they would just hide and cause chaos ... imagine dating or married to a closet gay... ....
And .... The world certainly does not need more babies, so ,...... leave those ppl be.... even countries with super low birth rates gave up trying to have more kids and just import immigrants..
Church needs many members for inlfuence and money.... and condemns lgbt.... e but so many wealthy gays are in church and donating so the whole topic is just a farse, saying those ppl are bad but also allowing them as long as they keep it relatively quiet
let lgbt be open about it so that there is less suffering and confusion and everyone can be clear who they are with... or else... karma might bite your sweet a@@ and you end up dating a closet gay or it turns out you are gay LOL
Is Lucia in a position to threaten the Chairman? in other words: IS LUCIA'S EVIDENCE EFFECTIVE AND ADMISSIBLE IN COURT?
One person says yes, since the papers and hankie prove that the chairman was involved.
Another person says no, since there is no proof that the Chairman stole the papers and that he is the murderer, anyone could put JPS blood on Chairman's henkie..
TK said that the papers were not admissible in court bc they were stolen. Why?
So what is actually true here? ANyone with legal expertise? Thanks.
So I watch after a few episodes, a week at most.
I do not understand the legal issues here... IF THERE IS A CCTV IN CHAIRMAN'S OFFICE so Lucia can prove she took it out of his drawer i.e. he had it? So...
Those papers are illegal now since they were stolen from Pan Su? Why? I dont understand wht TK was saying about stolen evidence as inadmissible...
It flashed on the screen, so did I see it correctly that the papers were signed by Pan Sul, not the Chairman? So what is the actual physical evidence that the Charmain and TK's parents had a contract about TK's parents' technology?
Hm so that means Pan Sul should testify about that connection... ?
Thanks for explaining it
So the bottom line is: Lucia is a lot more proactive than before, but lacks the mental ability and technical knowledge to come up with strategies that will work... ?
then it was convenient only 30 mins to spare.. and then Queen's house turned interesting.
So I tried Graceful Liar and WWSTS
But she has not learned self reflection, etc
At least she learned something :)
The issue is that your right brain and your heart are shut down, so you cannot feel and cannot See the Big Picture or the finer points of what I described
AND YOU DID NOT WANT FEEDBACK. YOU JUST WANTED TO SHUT ME UP :)
you dont want feedback unless it is a praise?
you want feedback as a nit picking dissection?
Unless I know exactly which trumpet made a mistake, I cannot say if I like the song or not?
And my feedback about specifics I liked and disliked is not good to you? I was quite specific..
Read the list of things you asked me to evaluate, it is straight from a class on film critique LOL super technical
Sure a comment like "I dont like the food bc it is burned" is an appropriate comment but you asked for a lot more than that.
Also the issues I described and the likes are a lot finer than "food is burnt" You are asking me to explain why I liked something...
you should follow your own recipe and explain why the bi guy liked that "fat ugly unpopular chick". Do you even know? CAN you even know?
And you dont value what I did say about what I liked and disliked and why ... SO IF YOU DO NOT WANT FEEDBACK, THEN WHY ASK FOR IT??
LOL so I need a PhD and YOUR list of standardized objective things to comment on to comment if I like or not like it? That is arrogant and useless NITPICKING BUREAUCRACY, besides lacking creativity :)
your list sounds like what is used for grading a report in a classroom. Are you some kind of professor? LOL Or an interviewer? Or some grant-giver? Olympic judge? Or some advertiser trying to figure out what sells?
Just to let you know, your little questionairre to make it look objective and standardized does NOT work in real life. In real life, PEOPLE LIKE OR DISLIKE AND THEY USE IT OR NOT USE IT, THEY PAY MONEY TO WATCH OR THEY DO NOT.
Only advertisers and manipulators look for specifics they can exploit :) and yeah this nitpicky kind of logic is very useful to them and they always collect it :)
As for ordinary ppl, EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO HAVE THEIR OPINION AND LIKE AND DISLIKE :)
Bye bye farawell LOL there is no point in talking with you :)
The contribution of the West is openly and honestly talking about things. Including environment and women. For centuries, patriarchy exploited and oppressed Nature and women.
The contribution of kdramas is showing meaningful human relationships and character growth, individually and within the fabric of the society. Recently, the hard core sexism is starting to break so kdrama heroines are more real women with common sense and do not depend on the ML to save them and guide them since they are so dumb and hopeless they need a backing.
In this kdrama, we see that ML at first was portrayed as dumb but by ep 8 it is clear he is not so dumb, he is a master of relationships and he understands lying. How he caught his manager is masterful.... How he tried to help FL is masterful... He is not well educated in modern ways and may not understand very analytical things LOL He is honest, caring, kind, and communicates openly. FL is a real person, also honest and communicates openly. Both of them are hard working honest people with integrity. There is no alcohol and issues.... They meet "in the middle of the chapter" of their lives and now they are starting to mesh their lives as a pair. So from there, this is a start of a good love story.
Do not ruin it with some flashy shocking product placement that might tickle the audience but take away from the content. Sure show the issues but do not let them take over. Where to draw the line ... is a trick question.
Thanks for the shootout :) I learned something today.
I think high noon is bc it is easy for all to know what time it is and also, the sun is equal to both parties and not going into their eyes.
The most unfair shootout would be dawn or sunset bc all that sun would be going into the eyes of the guys facing the sun :) it is like a guaranteed death for them :)
HE FEELS TOTALLY ENTITLED.... and the only thing preventing him from showing his true colors so far is his "love" for FakeYC.... and she is going to "dissolve into thin air" in a second....
And he is sooo naive to keep blindly sticking to JW... why? Love? Lust? A nice new toy? ....
But JW does not love him. She is just getting a high on his attention and love. When he finally figures that out... plus that she was deceiving him and using him... well...
Ough... what is next? Se Hun, the wild card... what move will he make?
Now he has no money anymore, and definitely JW has none, will he still be in love?
And... RealYC.... is after him..... As we suspected. And we all predicted she will catch him. But did you expect it to be like what we saw in the shower??? RealYC is quite some racy lewd lose character...who loves to commit crime, she said.... A criminal. She admitted she does not really like him but is seducing him as a part of her game
But the shower scene was something else. And anyone who said SH was not interesting or handsome, will have to eat their words :)
Sooooo..... Ough... what is next? Se Hun, the wild card... what move will he make?
I think that is how a victim must feel when that tall innocent yellow grass turns out to be a hungry lion... it is like meeting a monster face to face!!!!
The camouflage fell off and you can see what is behind that sweet polite face... utmost cruelty....
This is one of best horror scenes ever!!!! esp since he is so much bigger than those skinny chicks - he is like twice th size of JW when they sat facing each other....
btw did you see RealYC legs when she got out of HR's talk??? she is like a skeleton....
Anyways, that Chairman ... added a horror element to this drama. He is worse than a nightmare....
IT is like a chicken and the egg question, but I do believe that the GREED is the starting point
JW said she wanted the riches. And she is getting them by taking them away, in the same way it was done to her.
So... what's th point here... ??? this is a competition of who is the worst
JW needs to go to some kind of therapy where she learns to self reflect and stop being a petty whiner causing chaos in so many people's lives. Yeah many ppl have difficult lives and JW is just one of many.... . So then join the club, and put your time and effort where it REALLY counts. GROW, JW. You got about 55 episodes left to do so...
and JW actress should be sent to a crash course in acting .