I'm loving this show don't get me wrong however witnessing the struggle upon struggle, the bad triumph over the…
Dont be a snowflake :) that's not what the best are made out of :) Read the story of Jack Ma, the owner of the Chinese "Amazon" .... it requires struggle... Read Apple's Steve Jobs story, he was even fired... These ppl will make it .... :) bc they keep trying and luck favors only those :)
One technical question: so, fakeYC gets married to RichBoy .... and then what IF RealYC comes back to take over ?? would the marriage papers still hold?? bc it is a different person.... And how about the public.... ? They see wedding with one bride called JYC .... and then they see another woman, and she is THE wife and also called JYC .... ???
For myself, I would not use the word "crush" bc I am from the USA and the word "crush" implies certain sexual or romantic interest, and I dont have that.
The word I would use for myself is ADMIRATION and respect for her as an actress and for the overall style of her fictional character.... I have admiration and fascination with something done exceptionally well and I highly respect her acting and costuming, how she brought LoanShark mama to life.
And I also highly respect the costumer and the stylist, they did an amazing job, whoever "designed" the character of Loanshark Mama and her physical expression in terms of fashion and style... it PERFECT...
It took some creativity to design that "look" and that "style".... . Everything is coordinated - her rusty lipstick, hair, curtains, rugs and pillows, everything is accented with rusty brown red, and with lots of gold and shiny jewelry.... Extremely unique and creative character, the look, and the acting makes it just wow amazing.
I watched this whole show bc of excellent acting by ML and FL. ML is a very capable actor. FL role was simpler but she was great too.
I really like that the end was "past the end" and we saw their grieving and adjustment period. that is really cool.
Did he jump? I hope not. I hope he called her.
Really only after the dad reveleation, and best friend revelation, could they reunite again, when "all the bills from the past" were cleared out.
Since they understood each other so well and really cared for each other, and nobody else cared for them, ..... getting together would be the best thing to do.
their daughter SuA is such a moron it is undescribeable .... omg moron. HAS she done anything else but cause trouble the entire time???? How does a child grow up so clueless??? Her father;s life was SAVED with the money....she totally forgot about that!!!!! and yeah lost too bc of the way the drug money works...
Her character is a doormat woman from 1950s. That is why nobody should stand her!!!!I could not stand her cutesy…
yes real art is supposed to help us evolve and transform.
JH is not a villain because she is not a FL. She is a villain bc she did some mean things, like asking YR to help her catch JP without first asking YR where she stands, competing with YR, acting mean towards YR. JH is shallow and immature, her dream is to be pretty and looked at, and her main dream and question for the future is the next minute, to find out if she won the peagant.
YR is portrayed as goody goody but she is an indirect villain, an ENABLER, by being a doormat. HOWEVER, that is even worse bc in life, YR is very strong and a leader, she organized the bus girls, etc So she is capable and strong and a hard worker and it is even worse bc she is a doormat servant at home and to JP.
so this cunningly potrays a super woman, working hard at work AND at home, always serving others.
Overal this is a great piece of mass manipulation :)
This drama is about realistic immature people and TOXIC relationships from real daily life. Imo this drama should be a required watch for students in counseling and psychiatry, as a study in toxicity because you can dig through the layers and you can see the comments of the audience and realize the toxicity and false beliefs in the society. **** So this drama is useful for analyzing toxicity, like a dissection class at th medical school lets you see all the raw details.. **** In other words, this drama stinks and it will show you the rotting and hidden parts and you need to see that only once to understand. The audience's comments are a part of dissecting the toxicity.
But just exposing toxicity is not art.... Just like doing dissection and knowing anatomy does not make you a medical doctor capable of helping people.
Someone needs to start producing real art, with solutions, ie. some healing ideas and solutions.
We watch toxic people all day in our daily lives and we do NOT need to watch toxic people for 12 hours on tv too. WE NEED SOLUTIONS, THE HEALING IDEAS. Mass media just does not provide it, seems intentional....
Her character is a doormat woman from 1950s. That is why nobody should stand her!!!!I could not stand her cutesy…
That is why imo this drama skillfully and cunningly endorses "1950s" type of people and relationships as commendable, so in fact it promotes the status quo in sexism, catering to men, women competing and backstabing each other for men, shallow ambition of being in a peagant, shallow ambition of waiting around a guy, women not thinking further than their nose, men ennjoying privileges and personal servants for free, etc. This drama could have been set in Goreo or Joseon or before, and it would be the SAME plot. And that dead-end just stating problems and never showing any hope for any solution is the trademark of western media. For a piece of art to be truly a piece of art, it has to give some ideas for solutions and has to show some transformation.
This particular drama is useful as a study in toxicity because you can dig through the layers and you can see th comments of the audience and realize the toxicity in the society and the false beliefs. **** So this drama is useful like a dissection class at the medical school. **** But someone needs to start producing art with solutions, ie. some healing ideas and solutions.
there is a HUGE middle age and retired market in the USA... so many elderly ...
They do :) Check out comments in dailies on MDL. Esp Eagle Brothers kdrama taught me that most of those viewers are older. Europe is older too. THe only young ppl are in S America, Africa, maybe China, and a few here and there in the USA
ES's husband's officemate is having a romance with ES's husband LOL And: Here I am, the person that these ppl…
LOL person with cancer? who gave away the house and all money and left his family on the street without ONE thought.... and never even saw what wrong he did!!! and how many times so far? You my dear are very one sided.
FYI ES could and probably should have left him long time ago, and ***** she took care of him zillion times more than she was obliged. ***** She sold drugs to pay for his therapy and she kept him alive and gave him money to go to Osaka for more treatment. THAT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH. ***** SHE RISKED HER LIFE AND DAUGHTER'S LIFE TO KEEP HIM ALIVE **** THA IS ENOUGH. SHE IS DONE ****** She does not owe him anything and esp not love. In fact their marriage had no love for a very long time. She was dead already. That man just receives money from her so that he is not left on the street - and she sacrificed her life and daughter's life to get the money -
so what more do you want from her??? What kind of "healer" are you? If you still think you are some healer by trying to tie her down to that man, then what kind of healing is it, burrying people alive? Some kind of sexism going on, expecting impossible from the woman?
ES's husband's officemate is having a romance with ES's husband LOL And: Here I am, the person that these ppl…
Yeah hopefully SuAh gave up on crushing by now :) And age difference is irrelevant if people "match" :) Young Lady and Gentleman was a successful kdrama about that Husband dying might be necessary for ES to give up that IDEA that she is stuck to him. He was such a dead weight in her life and she just could not see it
Her character is a doormat woman from 1950s. That is why nobody should stand her!!!!I could not stand her cutesy…
I see your point of view. Indeed YR is realistic. And that is annoying.
We see and KNOW so many of such woman and we do NOT want to spend 12 hours watching yet another one!!!! That is what I was trying to say. I was sarcastic and half joking but that is what I was trying to say
The story does not provide any solutions. Yes sure she grew a tiny bit. But not really. That is what I was talking about
ES's husband's officemate is having a romance with ES's husband LOL And: Here I am, the person that these ppl…
yes! I just saw ep 11 part where she refuses to go, and yes that is a big YES for him :)
Who cares if they can hold their heads high in Korea or not, I am sure they will manage to be happy anywhere and they will be good at hiding their pasts :)
The only block is SuAh who had a crush on James and is generally a very ... slooooow kid gosh she is one of the most annoying characters in the drama, she has always just caused trouble, she acts super dumb and immature for her age
Wt? He looks like normal ahujussi 😂😂😂. But yess ml is very handsome. He is perfect fr dark character.…
are you blind? the fired policeman is not adjushi. He is young! I am not talking about the corrupt old policeman.... Are you just trying to pick a fight here?
ML is perfect for shady roles, bc he can make a grumpy serious face, but imo he is even more perfect for open heart roles, bc his eyes are INTELLIGENT and very expressive and he shows a lot of positive emotions so well. I would love him in some super lovey dovey role
She needs to open a restaurant
He is also a fantastic dancer. Where do we watch his dance videos?
The word I would use for myself is ADMIRATION and respect for her as an actress and for the overall style of her fictional character....
I have admiration and fascination with something done exceptionally well and I highly respect her acting and costuming, how she brought LoanShark mama to life.
And I also highly respect the costumer and the stylist, they did an amazing job, whoever "designed" the character of Loanshark Mama and her physical expression in terms of fashion and style... it PERFECT...
It took some creativity to design that "look" and that "style".... . Everything is coordinated - her rusty lipstick, hair, curtains, rugs and pillows, everything is accented with rusty brown red, and with lots of gold and shiny jewelry.... Extremely unique and creative character, the look, and the acting makes it just wow amazing.
I really like that the end was "past the end" and we saw their grieving and adjustment period. that is really cool.
Did he jump? I hope not. I hope he called her.
Really only after the dad reveleation, and best friend revelation, could they reunite again, when "all the bills from the past" were cleared out.
Since they understood each other so well and really cared for each other, and nobody else cared for them, ..... getting together would be the best thing to do.
Her father;s life was SAVED with the money....she totally forgot about that!!!!! and yeah lost too bc of the way the drug money works...
Maybe N Korea is different :)
JH is not a villain because she is not a FL. She is a villain bc she did some mean things, like asking YR to help her catch JP without first asking YR where she stands, competing with YR, acting mean towards YR.
JH is shallow and immature, her dream is to be pretty and looked at, and her main dream and question for the future is the next minute, to find out if she won the peagant.
YR is portrayed as goody goody but she is an indirect villain, an ENABLER, by being a doormat.
HOWEVER, that is even worse bc in life, YR is very strong and a leader, she organized the bus girls, etc
So she is capable and strong and a hard worker
and it is even worse bc she is a doormat servant at home and to JP.
so this cunningly potrays a super woman, working hard at work AND at home, always serving others.
Overal this is a great piece of mass manipulation :)
**** So this drama is useful for analyzing toxicity, like a dissection class at th medical school lets you see all the raw details.. **** In other words, this drama stinks and it will show you the rotting and hidden parts and you need to see that only once to understand. The audience's comments are a part of dissecting the toxicity.
But just exposing toxicity is not art.... Just like doing dissection and knowing anatomy does not make you a medical doctor capable of helping people.
Someone needs to start producing real art, with solutions, ie. some healing ideas and solutions.
We watch toxic people all day in our daily lives and we do NOT need to watch toxic people for 12 hours on tv too. WE NEED SOLUTIONS, THE HEALING IDEAS. Mass media just does not provide it, seems intentional....
And that dead-end just stating problems and never showing any hope for any solution is the trademark of western media.
For a piece of art to be truly a piece of art, it has to give some ideas for solutions and has to show some transformation.
This particular drama is useful as a study in toxicity because you can dig through the layers and you can see th comments of the audience and realize the toxicity in the society and the false beliefs. **** So this drama is useful like a dissection class at the medical school. **** But someone needs to start producing art with solutions, ie. some healing ideas and solutions.
THe only young ppl are in S America, Africa, maybe China, and a few here and there in the USA
FYI ES could and probably should have left him long time ago, and ***** she took care of him zillion times more than she was obliged. ***** She sold drugs to pay for his therapy and she kept him alive and gave him money to go to Osaka for more treatment. THAT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH. ***** SHE RISKED HER LIFE AND DAUGHTER'S LIFE TO KEEP HIM ALIVE **** THA IS ENOUGH. SHE IS DONE ****** She does not owe him anything and esp not love. In fact their marriage had no love for a very long time. She was dead already.
That man just receives money from her so that he is not left on the street - and she sacrificed her life and daughter's life to get the money -
so what more do you want from her??? What kind of "healer" are you? If you still think you are some healer by trying to tie her down to that man, then what kind of healing is it, burrying people alive? Some kind of sexism going on, expecting impossible from the woman?
Young Lady and Gentleman was a successful kdrama about that
Husband dying might be necessary for ES to give up that IDEA that she is stuck to him. He was such a dead weight in her life and she just could not see it
We see and KNOW so many of such woman and we do NOT want to spend 12 hours watching yet another one!!!!
That is what I was trying to say. I was sarcastic and half joking but that is what I was trying to say
The story does not provide any solutions. Yes sure she grew a tiny bit. But not really. That is what I was talking about
Who cares if they can hold their heads high in Korea or not, I am sure they will manage to be happy anywhere and they will be good at hiding their pasts :)
The only block is SuAh who had a crush on James and is generally a very ... slooooow kid gosh she is one of the most annoying characters in the drama, she has always just caused trouble, she acts super dumb and immature for her age
ML is perfect for shady roles, bc he can make a grumpy serious face,
but imo he is even more perfect for open heart roles, bc his eyes are INTELLIGENT and very expressive and he shows a lot of positive emotions so well. I would love him in some super lovey dovey role