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It not black face though, black face was when people use to paint their face black to mock black people.

For me I try to give the actors/actresses multiple chances before I say I’m not a big fan . Shin Se Kyung is a great example. For me I thinks she does a great job in historical dramas however I don’t really like her in dramas that are in current times. I.e Black Knight & Bride of Habaek. However with me still not liking her in dramas that take place in current times I tried Run On and thought she was amazing in that so I definitely agree on not counting people out without giving them another (or multiple) chances.

Oh I didn’t see it like that , I thought it was one of those “we hope he escaped but we know the reality is that it’s more than likely he died” kind of thing.

He died in the fire that occurred at the inn. Remember the scene that Chu Chu & Fei left to buy Chu Chu feminine products & while they were gone the dansa (Idk how though spell it ) sect, set the inn on fir & captures the other guy that traveled with them.

I completely agree. I was all for it until I realize that Na told him that by kissing Chon was the way to determine if he love Chon are not & I completely stop watching when they had sex. It made me feel really uncomfortable for alot of reasons.

@danielmor I thought it was okay, I was more annoyed then anything to be honest lol

@danielmor Theory of love

You know what I agree, I stretch that one a little so I could get my point across lol but both are extremely flaw & that honestly why I love this show.

“Everybody has family trauma, not everybody becomes a narcissistic asshole from it. There comes a point when we can't continue making excuses for hurting other people because own parents let us know when we need them the most. It's a never ending cycle of abuse. “

He is not responsible for her feelings, that the biggest point that people miss ! HE didn’t want to be in a relationship with her because at the time HE view her as someone who was important to him. If you add him not having a good view on relationships plus not knowing he had feelings for he it equals out to her being friend zoned . SHE chose to like him, SHE choose to read into every little exchange they had even when he made it clear that he didn’t want to go farther then friendship. SHE chose to hold on to a one sided love and confess to him again, that was all her. SHE got hurt by things that SHE misconstrue on her own. And it funny how you said that family trauma doesn’t turn you into a narcissist asshole but no one points out that she use a trauma from a past relationship (that never was) with the ML to be that “narcissistic asshole” to her boyfriends.

I'd like to see you be in love with a guy that acts around you like you're really important to him sometimes and ever other people think he;s in love with you back but then he pulls back saying nah, we're just friends I don't want anything else. The you say ok, then this relationship ends because it's too painful for me. And he's like "nah, girl, I don't accept, this relationship is under my terms." Cool romance.

You made my point , she was in love with him, OTHER people thought he loved her, he never said or did anything to lead her on. The biggest issue is that most people are looking at things strictly from the FL point of view instead of seeing the whole picture which is she and her friends build up this idea of him liking her not him giving any sign he liked her. If you think back to the episode that she sitting with her friends & is about to tell them that she like him, it goes though this montage of her saying all this thing about him( as if he like her) and the montage is him basically doing friend things like calling her ugly. Yes now he realize his feelings but at the same time you have to realize he’s doing the same thing she did (minus the SML) to him, not letting go, the only difference is that when she was doing this to him, he was out of the country.

What do you suppose she should do, wait another 12 years to see if learns to process his traumas and confess he likes her back or what?

They both need to process their trauma. This pass episode should go to show you how flaw the FL is more so then the ML . She’s confess to him the first time, he said he wants to be friends she agrees, while still crushing on him & drunk calling him multiple times. She confess again & he says he wants to be friends she tells him she can’t do that & doesn’t want to be around him, he leaves, & when they met up again he asks her if he makes her uncomfortable, she lies, & he tried to be friends, she throws the fact that he didn’t want to be with her romantically and the rejection as the reason why she fail at all her relationship (pretty much doing the exact same thing you said was a never ending cycle of abuse), she continues to use those two events any time she wants to hurt him, she only focuses on the negative aspects of him (or what she thinks is negative) and basically thinks he is an asshole, last but not least she going be using the SML as a rebound. Again they BOTH got some shit they need to handle. And he did confess to her when he told her to met him at the tower

Exactly & it grinds my gears that every one loves the SML like he isn’t doing the same things that everyone hates Lee Soo for doing. Not giving up when she told him she wasn’t interest in dating. I have a feeling I’m ep 6 he’s going find out Lee Soo was in a car accident on his way to meet the FL & he isn’t going to say a word to the FL.

Yeah I understand but I also feels as tho it unfair for her to make it out like oh now we are just friends when it took her years of drunk calling for her to reach this point.

“He has continuously played with her emotions since he's known her as it was obvious she had a crush on him, he's rejected her several times, I don't give a fuck if you say that he never rejected her directly, he clearly closed off their relationship and never gave her an opening and was always cold to her.”

The fact that she had feelings for him was only obvious to us due to the fact that we are watching from the FL perspective however due to the fact that he friend zone her it is completely possible that he never saw the signs of her liking him.

“Don't give me the bullshit that he was always protecting her, like some guardian angel, well he was the reason that she was being bullied in the first place, so he should take some responsibility and fucking clean up his mess while he's at it since he was always hanging around her”

He was not the reason she was bully in the first place, it shows that her “friends” were talking about her at the award ceremony & he overheard & befriend her. Did him helping her escalate the bullying? Yes, but what exactly is the difference between him being protective of her by doing the hoodie stunt & her friend defending her when they over hear those same girls talking about the FL?

Don't give me the bullshit that growing up with divorced parents is hard, yeah, well 50% of marriages end up in divorces yet you don't see all the children from those families go on to be like this guy

What type of bullshit theory is that???!!! Every one handles trauma different. His parents not only argued, not only divorced, but then decided to come together as friends like every time was good & for Lee Soo that was traumatic in some way. & if we really want to be technical there are a lot of kids that have relationships problems base on what they had experience at home. I.e daddy issues.

“Also I really don't like the whole boy who cried wolf archetype that they're giving him because it underlies that you should pity him. The boy who cried wolf only lied to the villagers and constantly teased them about the wolf because he was lonely, no one cared about him and he wanted attention, and when the wolf finally appeared and no one was there, you could see how truly alone the boy was and he suffered for what he did, truly a tragic story.”

Soo basically your describing the ML . He’s lonely , he has always like the FL but due to trauma he has from his parents & fear of losing the only important person he has he cries wolf & friend zones her. As years go by with him still crying wolf ( keeping her in friend zone & denying to himself that he likes her) the wolf finally appears ( the SML) & with him being all alone ( the FL trying to move along , & him realize that he like her) we can truly see how alone the ML really is, and how he is suffering from crying wolf.

“The male character in this drama on the other hand, didn't push the female lead away and lie to her because he wanted attention or anything, he did it because he was genuinely insecure about himself and his feelings and he was confused about his emotions, and just kept hurting her by leading her on, making her believe that she had a shot with him, he on the other hand perfectly knew that she liked him and just didn't want to let her go because he's selfish”

Huh? How was he he leading her on? Not once in ANYTHING he did, did he give her hope . If she did have any hope that something would happen that came all from her side & how she interpreted his words & gestures. He didn’t want to let her go because she was his best friend & the most important person to him.

“I really just don't understand how this girl can continue to let herself be led on by him, but if they end up together, they honestly just deserve each other”

I can’t understand how she continue to lead others on but no one acknowledged that fact. & no serious how is he leading her on?

It not that simple to be honest. Yes she like him for 7 years unrequited but she victim blame him for not liking her back . & to make it seem like oh now that she doesn’t want him, he should just let it go and respect her wishes it ironic because that exactly what she didn’t do for him. I think the reason there is FL bashing (very few but still) is because there are so many people who are ML bashing like he the equivalent of the Playful Kiss ML (ugh I hated the drama), without acknowledging the flaws the FL has as well.

Exactly my blood pressure starts going up with all these one sided views about Lee Soo. It just sad that no one is seeing how toxic the FL lead is by placing the blame of her feelings and (at the times) the lack of his feelings all on him where the reality of it is her feelings are solely just that HERS & he entitled to not have the same ones without it being thrown back in his face.

YES!!! Say it louder for the people In the back. I feel like those of us who see Lee Soo for the jerk he isn’t are the unicorns of this comment section lol

I can see that and I feel the same way but I on the other hand I also understood that a lot of the things he did/said was also things you would say or do for your friend (minus the little backstories we would see).

No he’s not a saint but he also never given her false hope. You have to understand the first two times he rejected her was years before they met again on the island. On the island is where the start of conflicting feelings comes in & on that note I do agree 100 percent that he needs to get his s$&t together. With that being said the years prior to the island he never actually gave her false hope, it was actually her friends that gave her false hope by putting this false narrative in her head that he liked her. Where as he’s never shown her that he did.

Exactly it was annoying that nobody else can see that both the FL & ML has issues. But yes don’t friend zone yourself then try to pull the possessive card, you had your chance lol

Unpopular Option: The female lead is the real jerk of the story. Now with that being said, I do (somewhat) understand the FL reasons & actions towards the ML. She liked him, & had a big enough set of ovaries to confess... twice & both times she was rejected & told he just wanted to be friends. Now fast forward to now & she wants him to stay away from her because she wants time to process her feelings, all that is absolutely understandable what’s not understandable is punishing him for not like her back. She calls him a jerk, acts like she okay being around him then switch on a dime, putting words in his mouth, basically calls him nothing,and that just to name a few reasons. To blame someone for not like you, &/or your inability to be around them due to your feelings make you the jerk not the other person. At least he has always been constant about wanting to be her friend until recently.

Thank you ! You literally said everything I was thinking. I would see people call him a jerk & I would think how?! He just being honest (even if he doesn’t like her, &/or isn’t aware of his feelings) about wanting to be friends & I can understand her side of misconstruing his words/actions (& her friends hyping up the situations) for him having feelings for her & her taking a step back when she realizes that not the case. But I 100% agree that blaming him for her inability to be friends isn’t the way to go about things.