JojoOnDatBeat

I'm thoroughly enjoying it, I don't drop dramas just because I don't like some parts of them.

I think I'll give it a shot while I wait for new episodes of this to drop

you're right, the genre should be horror instead

she's so iconic! literally a scene stealer

SAY IT LOUDER

I'm also a non-native English speaker. I'd recommend that if you are more of a movie watcher, then watch the Keira Knightley version first, and then read the novel maybe. it will be easier to get through the English when you're aware of the plot in my humble opinion

I'll be watching ahead as well, I want to see how many more hoops they'll jump through to make the male characters likeable towards the end.

he looked down upon them for being from a lower financial background and thus not following proper etiquette customary of the society they were trying to get married into. this was coming from his own insecurities as well because despite their financial situation the Bennets were overall much healthier as a family than Darcy so yeah, a mixture of misunderstandings, Darcy's prejudice towards the Bennets and Elizabeth's pride in standing her ground and showing the rich guy who's boss makes up for a timeless tale that was told so well. ALSO, all of the husbands doted on their wives! even shady wickham

I'm replying here as someone who tries to avoid the type of dramas you've described above, but I think the reason people are okay with those fantasy demon MLs etc is because what more can one expect from them when going into those dramas? you watch them with the knowledge that they're horrible and have tortured pasts and suffered crazy ordeals and become horrible people so the entire drama will take you on the journey to redeem them, make them avenge whatever issues and settle down etc.

the issue with having such toxic characterization in a slice of life drama like this is that none of the male leads (at least up to 6 episodes) are coming with that sort of baggage that would make the audience justify their actions (which is still wrong). to make things worse, their actions are rather normalized here, and quickly dismissed as non issues. sure, the cheating husband will give up his cheating at the end, the weird pervy official will get his butt whooped and learn to respect women and the male lead's actions have all been justified as good so nothing will happen here but seriously, doesn't that sound pathetic? why are these amazing women being made to settle with men like this just so that the romance quota can be filled? like the sisters say on episode 6, it's not hard to find kind, respectful men and they should look towards that. if the drama in 2025 is going out of its way to go against the historical norm and show women being empowered, why is it that the men are still stuck in that era? no one is coming here to watch a documentary of men's behavior in the song dynasty

absolutely. historical cdramas are incomplete without the third act palace politics

Mr Darcy was nothing like this! He was an awkward, misunderstood, reclusive type who not once looked down upon any of the Bennet sisters for being women!

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he is, of super close proximity to royalty basically. this implies he can be everywhere and anywhere because connections and power lmao

no worries, haha! feels nice to vent a little when the story is so promising but then things like this are happening

I get the pillow talk part and that she beat him up. but when she goes to tell her mother and sister about it we suddenly don't get back to the issue because there's a proposal waiting for kangning. that's crazy

this! literally I was like this is your male lead guys!!!! how can he be a great partner when he treats his future wife's sister like shit

I've been trying to be gentle with my takes because a lot of people here are taking unkindly to criticism directed at the male lead but yes! agree with everything you've said. I also cannot bring myself to overlook just how generally unkind chai an is towards his sister in law fuhui, whether directly or indirectly. people keep saying to wait for character development but how is it possible to wait for development to occur when the problem is not being acknowledged at all? the others (fuhui's husband and that yang fellow) are more overtly bad but characters like chai an are more insidious and dangerous because so many men even today are like him. they even gravitate towards women like kangning just to tame them (not saying this is happening here). the fact that the writer is a man unfortunately does add to this icky feeling.

for sure

we're in the same boat. I love the women here and their bonds are lovely. would prefer if we could do away with the romance bit entirely but alas

yes, their matchmaking doesn't go through because of his mother's behavior but I'm honestly glad it didn't because I personally think the kidnapping issue needs to be addressed and cleared before we move on to being lovey dovey. Though I doubt it will, judging by how the scriptwriting is.