Jyte12

Couldn't have said it better.

The king is such a disappointment. Does not expand the kingdom or consolidate his power. All that killing only to be a drunk gluttonous skirt chaser? Can't even handle nightmares/ghosts. Fingers crossed the consort's son gives us the royal villain we deserve.

Given how much people went on and on about not wanting the same ending as the Japanese version, I'm surprised at the anger at this ending. It is an open ending, right? Unless I'm mistaken, that shot of them hand-in-hand is a memory from when they were dating.

Just for the sake of discussion, do you have one practical suggestion?

Love how we don't have to wait till the last few episodes to get all the payoff. Enjoying all the wins. Mr Kim should have been fired IMO.

He's already suspicious of her as it is. She's basically walking a tightrope. Plus compared to him physically? She can't even wrest her hand out of his hold. And the only way to stop being his verbal punching bag will be to leave him. Which she can't do just yet.

Lol. Such a patient man.

Why was it unnecessary? Just curious. I thought it was cheesy but it was a nice touch.

He never dated? It was mentioned? I remember it being mentioned that Yong-pll never dated anyone else but nothing was said about Sangdo.

Also feel like that entitled bit is unfair because he did not once impose his crush on Samdal. He tried to be there when she needed help and stepped away when he was not needed. Also, there's nothing about Sangdo that suggests him having the personality to become an incel. He is genuinely kind and caring. (Not to mention, rich and attractive.)

There is a whole drama with all the necessary details. No need to make anything up. Let's stick to facts and not make projections.

1. Yongpil knows Sangdo does not stand a chance. He's not competition. He feels sorry for him that's why he comforts him. Yongpil is not hurting because of this situation. Hell, he felt more hurt finding out about the ex-boyfriend than by anything Sangdo has said/done.

2. "The girl his friend likes" IS his childhood friend. Sangdo did not start liking her after Yongpil. He always liked her but stepped back when he found out they liked each other and were seeing each other keeping the "bro code" you like to refer to. Samdal and Yongpil have been broken up for eight years and up until 2/3 episodes ago vehemently denied being anything more than just friends.

3. Potential of hurting the girl. How? Realistically, the worst that would happen is a strain on their friendship. Given how she ghosted all her friends for eight years, a little strain is not about to open any wound more than the person who actually caused the wound.

Let's step outside the facts of the drama for a second. You're well within your rights to dislike the character because he has displayed behaviour that goes against your moral values. Doing so based on something research has shown is a set of arbitrary rules created by men to uphold behaviours they should have outgrown before becoming adults? That's why I used the word "silly". It's a whole different story if you're a teenager.

So a man cannot like his friend (because Samdal is as much his friend as Yongpil is)? He hasn't hurt anyone. Even Yongpil is aware of the crush and has comforted him on occasion because he's an understanding and empathetic man, not clinging to some silly code like a teenage boy.

Agree. These things happen in friend groups way more than people admit. of course no one is waiting eight years for a chance but this is a kdrama so...

Ah. I think I blocked the frat bro making those comments. The trope of holding onto "first love" and never getting into any other relationship in kdramas needs to die a natural death. It's grounded in fantasy and doesn't happen enough irl to explain why it's such a popular trope. Sam-dal dating is actually healthy and I was happy at least one of them wasn't doing the "first love or no one else" thing.

If I was a crier I'd be bawling by the time ep 13 ended. So many emotions mahn. The actor playing Yong-pil's dad (Yoo Oh Sung) is fantastic. Bodying the role. And of course Kim Mi Kyung is just exceptional. Go Mi-ja is the tough cookie, rough around the edges but you sense she feels a responsibility to hold it together for everyone else. And some of that can be traced back to losing her best friend the way she did. She internalised her grief like crazy. Glad to finally see her let go.

The way I phrased my statement was deliberate. She started off the chain of reactions that led to the accident. I'm acknowledging that same as you just did with "Yes, if she didn't decide to back in the water then she would still be alive..."

He's not even a bad father per se. At least from the little shown of his relationship with Yong-pil, he is present. He's just been stuck in his pain and grief for too long. Letting go of grief can sometimes feel like you're letting go of you loved one. Like he said, he worries his wife will be forgotten. Unfortunately he's hurting others in the process.

It's not ego. It's grief/pain that has not been dealt with.

Obviously that's the character. He's been carrying grief for 20 years. It'll show physically.

Only 15 minutes into ep 13 and I have to pause to say that I hadn't really thought about the pain and guilt that Sam-dal's mum must have been going through all these years. To bear the responsibility for putting your best friend in a situation that caused her death. To see her husband and son suffer. To replay the moment over and over and wish she'd taken a different decision. Her pain does not in any way pale beside the pain of Yong-pil's father. And she's been atoning and will probably continue to do so for the rest of her life (as she should). While I still believe one should not dictate how others grieve, he is using his grief as an excuse to hold innocent people ransom and that's just all shades of wrong.

I wanted to like this drama. Dropped it for four weeks and came back to it but it's just not working for me. The FL's fixation on the male lead and some of her choices even when she knows she's in danger just irk me to no end. Plus I have a killer in mystery/romance fatigue. Every mystery does not have to revolve around a murderer out to get the FL.

Hopefully Like Flowers in the Sand sticks.