yeah, they kind of rushed it a bit. they should have explored her feelings a bit more before involving his friends'…
Yes, u read my mind. I bought it coz of her acting. She didn't go overblown, and also made rational comments like, "the feelings will fade".....also I can buy falling for a guy, you don't know that well, but when you hear he's "dead" you get shocked, and can't stop thinking about him....like I was so shocked when Anton Yelchin passed, it really hit me....I didn't fall for him, but I "missed" him deeply, even tho I barely thought of the guy before
The friends character...when he mentioned eating dumpling stew, it was so obvious that was his story arc. To stick around, until he got it, then bah-bye. I didn't anticipate the twist of him knowing her true feelings tho, just from a weird pic of them, and Kang in the bg smiling What was his line...."we were fuzzy, but he was crystal sharp" But to my eyes, they all looked clear wtf O.o
I am surprised at myself, for taking a melodrama on (been a while)!! This, so far, is good enough - only thing is....how is he her first love. I get she has intense feelings, but essentially they are for a stranger. He fed her ONCE as a kid. She doesn't remember his name as adults. Then she gets curious to see "BASTARD" being yelled at him, which I related to so hard, and wanting to know what happened in his life.
Then she sees him being kind, and that makes her happy, and likes him again. Then just before she confesses - he goes Libya, and she fears him dead. I can imagine the huge punch in the gut, when she sees him again - as the girlfriend of Min Seong and him, as the bestie. And I GET why she ran away, in fear, she would fall harder for the dude, whilst with another.
But, it's all one-sided so far. Right? Honestly. Is it love? Is it that deep? I'm not that convinced, so although I shed a few tears, I'm not proper bawling.
That person is no more with us and you only care about drama, heartless being. So disappointed!
You must be very angry at people who commit suicide (not saying he did.) Do you perceive these people as weak? Not worth mourning, because they're a waste of oxygen? Just trying to get into your mindset here.
If you feel sorry for friends and family, pls tell them direct, "I don't feel sorry for him" at his wake and they'll be very grateful for how much you "feel" for them, I'm sure.
The plot is actually interesting but The drama really did go downhill for the last couple weeks, so I don’t…
We love a supportive sis XD It's funny you bring up W, because it's like you read my mind. The world-building there was so made up on the spot, it was getting a bit ridic.
Here, I can sense a deep rich source behind it, even though I haven't read it myself. Absolutely yes. Would love a collab within EY team on how to overthrow this all powerful writer, who's run out of imagination on characters, yet is willing to demote/promote them in the different retellings....however did the writer intend Haru to be as big a feature in "Secret"? Writer was so pissed at Haru, he/she benched him. But couldn't bear to keep him there. And wanted him to witness many declarings of love from Kyung to Dan Oh, as he stood there, hands in pockets, in a "happy to be here" bro way with a vague smile on his face.
Also Nam Ju and his leading lady are not in "Creeping Flower" AT ALL
The Kyung you describe sounds 100x better. They did him a disservice then. Only good thing with this version, is because he's been on a self-righteous throne, lording it over Haru, it was quite a harmonious moment when he realises he's the prick that killed her after all. If he'd been her friend, he would kill himself out of guilt (is that what your mate @Haruny suggested)
"Troublemaker fairy" hahahaha. I take it, because he casually says "if you kill them in shadow, they come back alive memory wiped clean" to KYUNG of all people. Smh. Where did his big gob come from, when he was so pipsqueak before. Also I love how he was a KING, but now is a dinner lady, with NO ROLE required on stage, except dropping something near Nam Ju's mum once.
This dude....has NO STAGE, and 99% shadow time. And he's just sitting there in a apron pinny. Ok, after the backstory, I get why he avoids interfering, but SPILL YOUR BEANS MOFO. He comes across as aggravating as having all the answers, but nobody pressuring him for it in the early to mid episodes.
The plot is actually interesting but The drama really did go downhill for the last couple weeks, so I don’t…
She doesn't have much of a mission at the start tho either. This is a strength but also a curse. When her biggest mission is to escape her heart failure fate, it makes her personable but also the scope limited. And she gets to obsessing over 13 quick. Fairplay to her. I was more into the world-building, which was solid, but so held-back it felt a bit like time-wasting.
However the characters were so earnest in making tiny changes, and it was such a big thing for them, I kinda was into it.
Love triangle...onto that. The second male lead isn't a villain tho. I see the nuances in him. He is a villain in the past, but in high school setting, just selfish and self-involved with a hint of not wanting to repeat the past. It's true she's got 2 boys lusting after her now, but whatevs. I don't care about that, in fact I would have given this drama a straight 9 if she ended up dying for reals. And they're destined to live this curse in another story.
The angst was pre-determined just coz how her character was written as this ill girl who keeps clutching her heart 24/7, and walking up in a bed 128473674357 times. Repetitive man. But it's her darn set-up.
Throughout this drama, I was making notes, and I'll quote directly from what I was writing: "I haven't been impressed by a single scene . at no point I was thrilled or engrossed, just interested and wanting to continue. " For me to make it outstanding, it would have characters becoming self-aware sooner, tying squid fairy up in hogtie and torturing him until he revealed answers MUCH EARLIER ON, and then making a planned effort to find exactly how to make changes, then push the boundaries a bit more. Also some of the scenes are darn repetitive.
But then if the drama had strived towards this and failed, I might be more harsh
But considering how much I feared for it, it's not going that horribly. In fact, they are doing a decent job.
Weird focus on him I agree. Didn't he admit having a crush on Dan Oh? What's with the death stare at Haru
I don't remember him doing that =.= maybe because I didn't focus a lot on him as a character. But when he does pop up, with his premature self-awareness, it's so odd. Does he know more than squid fairy even
The plot is actually interesting but The drama really did go downhill for the last couple weeks, so I don’t…
I'm the opposite. This drama was a 7 all throughout. It's the last few episodes that convinced me to give it a 8 (subject to change.) The world-building was good, but so much unexplored potential. The last few episodes are at least revealing the tragic back story and making it cohesive. Is there more themes I'd like to be explored? Yes. But I'm convinced it's too late to delve into who this writer is etc, themes of trying to outwit him or her in a major way etc. I'm happy that it's sticking to this world and logic, revealed the backstory at least
The second male lead isn't very likeable, just declaring Yeon Soo will take prima ballerina, without even consulting her first or letting her recover properly, which may take months. However he might be nice, Idk
Shin Hye Sun is a fantastic actress, she has really caught my eye. 4 episodes in, I'm still on the fence about L, however his acting is getting him by, and he is able to make me smile and bring comical relief.
Atypical characters and atypical plot that starts to grow stale. Thing with me, I stopped caring about main lead when he gave blatant disregard to Seung Ah's death.
If he doesn't care about other people dying, especially someone he manipulated with his games (and he was laughing and slurping noodles after her death, without care), why should I be asked as a viewer to care about him in turn? To see if he falls in love or changes his ways. Why does he deserve my vetted interest, and hope things turn out well. I don't care if he lives or dies, I just feel apathy. This is dangerous ground, because then I don't feel pleased or sad over him if anything happens, just mild curiosity and perhaps no curiosity.
However before I stopped caring about him, I loved him as a character. So much dark and grey area and good portrayal, perhaps too good! Also FL ignores her friends death and starts falling for the guy (I paused drama at ep 10, but will finish over summer)
Great review =.= I agree with you. Atypical characters and atypical plot that starts to grow boring Thing with me, I stopped caring about main lead when he gave blatant disregard to Seung Ah's death If he doesn't care about other people dying, especially someone he manipulated with his games, why should I care about him? I don't care if he lives or dies However before I stopped caring about him, I loved him as a character. So much dark and good portrayal, perhaps too good! Also FL ignores her friends death and starts falling for the guy (I paused drama at ep 10, but will finish over summer)
Is this like LoveO2O? Because everyone was praising that one when it was airing and I found it really boring....
I found loveO2O boring too and dropped it. The whole beauty queen/computer genius was something I worked with, but the pace was snoresville. I am wary about ensemble casts in chinese dramas, but one thing they do fantastic, is that females aren't bitchy and backstabbing and in this one, the FL is independent and doesn't allow the 2nd male lead to use her as his "back-up" The ML is a physics genius and falls for her first, and is not cold, despite first first impression and I love how they show both their interests, by showing him at the lab, and her at her workplace It makes the characters more joyous to follow So yeah, I recommend it 8D
The friends character...when he mentioned eating dumpling stew, it was so obvious that was his story arc. To stick around, until he got it, then bah-bye. I didn't anticipate the twist of him knowing her true feelings tho, just from a weird pic of them, and Kang in the bg smiling
What was his line...."we were fuzzy, but he was crystal sharp"
But to my eyes, they all looked clear wtf O.o
Then she sees him being kind, and that makes her happy, and likes him again. Then just before she confesses - he goes Libya, and she fears him dead. I can imagine the huge punch in the gut, when she sees him again - as the girlfriend of Min Seong and him, as the bestie. And I GET why she ran away, in fear, she would fall harder for the dude, whilst with another.
But, it's all one-sided so far. Right? Honestly. Is it love? Is it that deep? I'm not that convinced, so although I shed a few tears, I'm not proper bawling.
If you feel sorry for friends and family, pls tell them direct, "I don't feel sorry for him" at his wake and they'll be very grateful for how much you "feel" for them, I'm sure.
Wow, I made this comment 14 days ago, but feels longer
Here, I can sense a deep rich source behind it, even though I haven't read it myself. Absolutely yes. Would love a collab within EY team on how to overthrow this all powerful writer, who's run out of imagination on characters, yet is willing to demote/promote them in the different retellings....however did the writer intend Haru to be as big a feature in "Secret"? Writer was so pissed at Haru, he/she benched him. But couldn't bear to keep him there. And wanted him to witness many declarings of love from Kyung to Dan Oh, as he stood there, hands in pockets, in a "happy to be here" bro way with a vague smile on his face.
Also Nam Ju and his leading lady are not in "Creeping Flower" AT ALL
The Kyung you describe sounds 100x better. They did him a disservice then. Only good thing with this version, is because he's been on a self-righteous throne, lording it over Haru, it was quite a harmonious moment when he realises he's the prick that killed her after all. If he'd been her friend, he would kill himself out of guilt (is that what your mate @Haruny suggested)
"Troublemaker fairy" hahahaha. I take it, because he casually says "if you kill them in shadow, they come back alive memory wiped clean" to KYUNG of all people. Smh. Where did his big gob come from, when he was so pipsqueak before. Also I love how he was a KING, but now is a dinner lady, with NO ROLE required on stage, except dropping something near Nam Ju's mum once.
This dude....has NO STAGE, and 99% shadow time. And he's just sitting there in a apron pinny. Ok, after the backstory, I get why he avoids interfering, but SPILL YOUR BEANS MOFO. He comes across as aggravating as having all the answers, but nobody pressuring him for it in the early to mid episodes.
Completely get where ur coming from!!
However the characters were so earnest in making tiny changes, and it was such a big thing for them, I kinda was into it.
Love triangle...onto that. The second male lead isn't a villain tho. I see the nuances in him. He is a villain in the past, but in high school setting, just selfish and self-involved with a hint of not wanting to repeat the past. It's true she's got 2 boys lusting after her now, but whatevs. I don't care about that, in fact I would have given this drama a straight 9 if she ended up dying for reals. And they're destined to live this curse in another story.
The angst was pre-determined just coz how her character was written as this ill girl who keeps clutching her heart 24/7, and walking up in a bed 128473674357 times. Repetitive man. But it's her darn set-up.
Throughout this drama, I was making notes, and I'll quote directly from what I was writing: "I haven't been impressed by a single scene . at no point I was thrilled or engrossed, just interested and wanting to continue. " For me to make it outstanding, it would have characters becoming self-aware sooner, tying squid fairy up in hogtie and torturing him until he revealed answers MUCH EARLIER ON, and then making a planned effort to find exactly how to make changes, then push the boundaries a bit more. Also some of the scenes are darn repetitive.
But then if the drama had strived towards this and failed, I might be more harsh
But considering how much I feared for it, it's not going that horribly. In fact, they are doing a decent job.
Thanks for your opinion!! ^.^
4 episodes in, I'm still on the fence about L, however his acting is getting him by, and he is able to make me smile and bring comical relief.
Thing with me, I stopped caring about main lead when he gave blatant disregard to Seung Ah's death.
If he doesn't care about other people dying, especially someone he manipulated with his games (and he was laughing and slurping noodles after her death, without care), why should I be asked as a viewer to care about him in turn? To see if he falls in love or changes his ways. Why does he deserve my vetted interest, and hope things turn out well. I don't care if he lives or dies, I just feel apathy. This is dangerous ground, because then I don't feel pleased or sad over him if anything happens, just mild curiosity and perhaps no curiosity.
However before I stopped caring about him, I loved him as a character. So much dark and grey area and good portrayal, perhaps too good!
Also FL ignores her friends death and starts falling for the guy
(I paused drama at ep 10, but will finish over summer)
I agree with you. Atypical characters and atypical plot that starts to grow boring
Thing with me, I stopped caring about main lead when he gave blatant disregard to Seung Ah's death
If he doesn't care about other people dying, especially someone he manipulated with his games, why should I care about him? I don't care if he lives or dies
However before I stopped caring about him, I loved him as a character. So much dark and good portrayal, perhaps too good!
Also FL ignores her friends death and starts falling for the guy
(I paused drama at ep 10, but will finish over summer)
The ML is a physics genius and falls for her first, and is not cold, despite first first impression and I love how they show both their interests, by showing him at the lab, and her at her workplace
It makes the characters more joyous to follow
So yeah, I recommend it 8D