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For me wrong is wrong. It had nothing to with traditions. It's just something I've come to accept. This might change in the future. When I started to watch K dramas 20 years ago, it was also the same BS about forgiving no matter how much you were wronged especially in their family dramas.

I can't say they don't do it anymore but I've noticed it's way less the case now. If a character is wronged, you can be sure there's gonna be payback. People are wronged all the time in real life and you cannot retaliate most of the time so getting that catharsis through dramas is important but lots of these family dramas just don't deliver on that front.

I don't like it... But since every time I start a Lakorn I'm expecting it now the blow is more bearable.

Haha you'll see.

It was blurred on Youtube. The GagaOolala version is probably uncensored.

It's a good one... But you might avoid eating mushroom after watching it 🤣

Depends specific BL content but Pearl and Peak have already acted in other shows as straight actors. They might get another project together but apart from a very small set of actors One 31 is not into the habit of pairing actors for life. That's just not something they do. Be happy if there's one but this channel is targeted at an older audience so they don't produce as many BLs as GMMTV.

That sadly is never going to happen... It's One 31. The best we can hope is to get another drama starring these two.

Nah We'll have to be sure with subs but they're just visiting Saenkaew's dad. Pin however is taking care of the whole family...
I didn't understand the whole arrangement but I remember clearly the father asking how long Sasin and Saenkaew were staying and Sasin answering 3 days.

Yeah but I can't handle overly graphic content so that's a pass for me. Every time I watched a show everybody recommended but which was overly violent I thoroughly regretted watching and ended up hating the show in question. For me graphic violence is just here for shock value and serves nothing to the story. Instead of organically creating emotions, then just hit you in your reptilian brain which is as far as I'm concerned pure laziness on top of being damaging. Being desensitized to violence is never a good thing imho.

Accountability is not a stapple of these Thai dramas Alas! But I was psychologically prepared so I'm neither surprised nor disapointed。 As long as Sasin and Saenkaew can be together, I've decided to close my eyes over the classic "everything is forgiven and forgotten". Dunno how many lakorns I've seen with that sh** so whatev'. Remember the journey, be happy about what you can be happy about and try to forget the rest.

I don't think you're in the minority... I personally think the ending is a bit of a let down as well... But this is a family friendly channel so I'm really not that surprised. The journey was great and at the end of the day I prefer to remember that Sasin and Saenkaew are together which is the most important thing.

The ending is not a bad one... but admittedly a bit of a let down.... But I really enjoyed the journey no matter how heartbreaking it was so I'm not gonna complain too much.

Nah that one was... not a good one but not completely horrible, it's a matter of interpretation...
I'm talking about One and Only starring Bai Lu.

It's a happy ending... That's all you need to know :D The only thing that was disappointing was that there was enough sweet moments between Sasin and Saenkaew in my opinion... There's some non-answered questions regarding some characters but not enough to ruin the ending.

Spoiler for episode 12

As usual, thank you for your kind words Diva70 😀 I'm always a bit worried about the way I express myself since English is my second language. But yeah sadly, it seems online, people tend to get enraged all the time and throw personal attacks on people based on their opinions. When you point it out, some either are in denial or just don't even realize how aggressive they sound. I've personally found no solution to this problem except blocking people. This thread has remained mostly civil which is a rarity on this website but it's also (sadly) because this series is not followed as much as the others.

I also think your cousin made the right call. It's way better to do that when you are young. Without going into too much details. I personally always knew what I wanted to do, but since it wasn't " a real job", I went from studying one thing to the other and when I finally settled for something more "classic" but for which I was passionate about (a second passion so to speak), personal life took over and I faced some serious family issues in my mid-twenties which pushed me towards becoming financially independent as soon as possible. Which led me to becoming utterly miserable and go through a depression in my late 20s. That's when I decided I was no longer going to listen to anyone but myself and I was going to do EVERYTHING I wanted. First and Second passion. No compromise.

But obviously, past a certain age, you have to fare for yourself so just saving enough to quit my job all the while studying what I wanted on the side took 10 years and I'm still working on it. But I had taken back my dream, which was enough to keep me sane ^^ The only person who supported me back then was my mom. It's something I personally will never forget.

I was in a really dark place but I didn't have the right to be unhappy given my "position in Society." And it's not that I didn't feel guilty seeing how most people struggle to pay their bills, but you feel how you feel, and I just couldn't see myself living my life that way feeling completely dead inside.

I had a very hard time reining in my mood and I would lash out at her repeatedly every time she would try to make a suggestion or whatever. I couldn't control it, I felt guilty about it, yet my mom never blamed me nor said anything hurtful neither back then neither now.

That's unconditional love right here. My father just chose to close his eyes and ears because it was easier. I don't blame him... BUT nobody can blame me for always prioritizing my mum now. She's the only one who stood by me... and my God we really don't agree on some very big things in life. We used to argue a LOT about quite a lot of things... We still do.

But I also know that no matter how big the argument, she will always put my well-being first over her own. I don't know if it's a mother thing but as much as my father loves me, I know he's incapable of that. I don't think it should be asked of anyone for that matter.

I'm not sure I'd be capable of that level of selflessness if I was a parent myself.

Anyway, we live in a Society that is making everyone anxious, if you've managed to grab a sit, you better hold onto it because life is hard out there. Hence taking a leap of faith becomes increasingly difficult.

But I guess that's great because, anxiety is good for consumption.

People who are happy don't spend lots of money, people who are too depressed don't spend any either because they're waiting to die anyway, so it's important to keep people in that middle: neither too happy nor too depressed so that they fill the void with countless dopamine rush through mindless purchases.

I'm also of the mind that even if the bank account is not full, it's better to be at peace with oneself which is what your cousin did and it's truly admirable to have done that just after getting his diploma.

Like you I've seen too many people complaining endlessly about their lives and being bitter about it. My mother is one such example. I don't wish that to anyone. I think it's really important to prioritize one's mental health and too often we're offered the "take some pills solution" which just doesn't solve the root problem.

Anyway, I wish your cousin the best. Me? Well. Still no regret, but I've got to admit I have a hard time mentally dealing with the financial insecurity. I could seriously do without... But I knew it was not going to be easy.

Life is a long journey ^^ Things will work out at some point. In 10 to 20 years, I'll look back at this money-stress period with a smile on my face.

Ever the optimist 😎

Hmm... Thanks for your long reply.
You make a fair point...

But I still H.A.T.E her though. My rational brain tells me you're right. My reptilian brain still doesn't care ^^

I mean I don't entirely disagree with your answer, but again regarding this:

"Pin grew up in a specific family, with specific conditioning, in a specific class position that valued reputation above all else. The women’s suffrage movement existed, yes. But did Pin’s father teach her about it? Did her social circle model resistance? Was she ever told she could imagine a life beyond marriage? The tools for resistance existed in her society, but that doesn’t mean they existed in her world."

The drama establishes that she has at least access to that, even if her father didn't teach her.

1. There's the character os Songsawat who everybody knows. She's an actress, independent in her own right, also officially the mistress of a powerful man... but at the end of the day, still somebody who goes against tradition.

2. As pointed out by Diva70 earlier, there's Rachawadi who not only is the boss of the lounge but also somebody who holds gay marriages inside of it. Again I'm back to Diva70 comment because it's better written than mine but, Pin is not ill at ease with this place.

In fact I even wondered the first time Saenkaew went there how she could have brought him here, not knowing how he felt about the subject altogether... I mean rationally speaking, if he was a homophobe, he could have considered her having low moral standings, not even accounting for the fact that she's from a merchants' family and he is a noble.

But I disgress. My point is, she already knows there's other possibilities but she chooses not to... I get it, change is frightening. Often people prefer to stay in a situation that is familiar even if they don't like it, instead of getting to a better place but having to face a difficult journey ahead.

I know it first hand. Quit my civil servant's job 3 years ago to pursue my passion. A VERY well-paid job might I add, everybody thought I was crazy especially doing that at my age. Well, here we are 3 years later.
Can't say they weren't right looking at my finances, savings almost all gone, still no light at the end of the tunnel... But I tried, I've got no regrets... for now. Bank account is almost empty, but mentally I'm still at a better place than when I used to do my former job.

Anyway I disgress.

My point is I don't entirely disagree with what you wrote... But there's one major thing when I just can't agree with you which is this:

"You’re free to hold her accountable. I do too. I just also hold the system accountable for producing someone so broken she can’t imagine another way.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​"

For me it's not that "She can't imagine another way." It's more a matter of she doesn't want to, because she lacks the courage to do it.

And I could understand if she was alone... But that's not the case. She has a cousin who loves her, who she can still throw tantrums at. Being angry a couple of days was... fine I guess. But now to me, she's running out of excuses.

At the end of the day, Society does hold part of the blame, but people have their own agency.

You know I would have partially agreed with your comment if the story had been set in the 19th century... But not in the 20th especially post WWII.

Society was already changing, she chose to go low. It's weird to me to read about a comment of women in the 1960s being "shackled by Society" when most of the changes and benefits we get these days came from the fight of women from that period or even earlier.

Seriously, women in Thailand got the right to vote in 1932 . Let's make a comparison with other "more developed country" shall we?

1. Pin is the typical example of why being a victim doesn't mean you won't ever become a tyrant. But self-reflection seems to be beyond her at this point.

2. She's not helpless in this situation. She's making everyone miserable because she wanted everything: the man, the money, the beautiful marriage. She wanted her fairytale, and she realized she won't be getting it. She could have been left miserable and alone in that situation but no she had a support system which she chose to get rid of.

Yes Saenkaew and Sasin tried to get rid of the marriage but it was never for her to stay trapped in her old life, it was also to prevent her to move from one prison to the other. She was unhappy in her father's life, now she chooses to be unhappy in her husband's life... Which again, is utterly stupid.

People change, and toxic marriage lead to increasing resentment. Who's to say the Prince won't become a cruel wife beater? The drama is being nice with Saenkaew because we need to root for him, but it could have gone that way. This could have been the story of a Prince who fought against fate, failed at it because of money hungry people and his wife, and ended up bitter and resentful, alcoholic and lashing at the world... especially at his wife.

In such situation, someone with a rational mind would calm down and help Sasin and Saenkaew to find a satisfying compromise. For instance, help with the marriage scheme with the lounge owner, in exchange for a good chunk of money to get her own freedom. Also Sasin would have stood by her so she wouldn't have been left alone anyway.

Though I hate the father, at least, he really has "History" on his side so to speak. Pin doesn't.

Again as Diva70 wrote, she had a choice. She chose that. Let her deal with the consequences.

For me your comment is akin to people excusing the Delulu Grandma because of her age. Feels to me that the members who are saying that are very young and never have met anybody 70 or older.

They've seen most on them on TV and imagine most people that age already have Alzeimer and are half dead... Which is just SO NOT the case.
Of course, you do have people like that, but most are still young thank you very much, with a well rounded working mind. I find such comments insulting but I'm putting it on the case of"When I was young, I though people who were 50 were already walking with a cane."

Ah well, it's been a while. My memory failed me.

Thanks for the warning. I was planning on watching it but now that's a pass. I'm off to erase it from my Viki list of shows to watch then.