Kannadin

Well I said it since day one: The Grandpa was just faking it with Mundo. He knew that guy was no good. If Mundo has tried to win him over without trying to ruin Se Gye, he might have had a chance but sadly, Mundo showed his true color as soon as he arrived in their house so the Grandpa used him to "build Se Gye's character". Typical.

Honest I forced myself to finish it... Your comment reminded me I was pretty generous when I rated it... Have to rate that one down from 6.5 to 5.

I personally have tried another C drama romance after that one but still no luck. Always the same issue... In fact I would argue this one is on the better end of the spectrum... I have watched only one C Drama thriller... BUT I can definitely say 1000% that C Dramas are great for historicals and Fantasy but their modern romances are 90% miss, 10% hits.

Not worth your time in my opinion... If you still want to stick to a C drama romance though, just beware of MDL ratings, they're definitely overblown due to the fanmob. I thought that was only the case with K dramas... but it's actually way worse with C dramas.

OH MY GOD that profile picture ^^ Looks like somebody who is depressed and just about to go to prison. 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah well. I get it the USA is not biggest soccer nation in the world. From an international point of view though, given this is the most popular competition in the world, as much as the Olympics if not more, what is happening is truly heartbreaking on all fronts, whether its about the ridiculous pricing of the tickets or the treatment of foreigners whether fans, players or referees.

But I won't go on a rant here, even talking about it pisses me off. I'm just gonna pretend there's no World Cup this year ( also that World Cup song... just NO). Hopefully it will be better in 2030. Hopefully.

Ok thanks for the info. I've boycotting the World Cup. Honestly disgusting on all fronts. I wish my country had boycotted it... But sadly, probably too much money involved.

So I've been refreshing SBS Drama Youtube page since yesterday and no "pre-release" scene there even now... Usually the pre-release scene should already be available on youtube...

Is there NO pre-release this week or does any of you have managed to see it somewhere else?

I'm team reincarnation WITH a dab of time travel/soul swapping.

1. Reincarnation because obviously Seo Ri and Se Gye are the reincarnation of Dan Shim and the Grand Prince.

2. Time travel/Soul swapping because the show has HEAVILY insisted on the comet since day 1. If it was just reincarnation, there would be no need for a trigger. The comet makes their modern souls dormant until it passes. Se Gye isn't touched by this issue due to meds he's been taking. Again. It's never explained why he goes to the psychiatrist but there's a couple of scenes where his doctor friend asks him about his sleep. This doesn't come out of nowhere. Typical foreshadowing from any writer.

There's lots of hints so that you're not surprised when the explanations are given yet not enough to be sure 100%.

Also, somebody has sent me in a DM a theory regarding the paintings we see in the museum. According to a Chinese viewer the Queen is indeed Dan Shim. She did become Queen and hence she obviously did paint the flowers. Dan Shim just doesn't think it's her because she travelled in the future ( due to the comet) before she became Queen. For the half burnt painting, I rewatched the scene... They never mentioned the identity of Dan Shim in the painting. They call it "Portrait of a Beauty" but whether she's a concubine or the consort is never mentionned... So that theory still holds.

Honestly I've noticed it in every single show that doesn't happen in high school for the past 2/3 years... I can't say for most of their shows though. But it's already way too much in my opinion.

That's exactly the problem ,it looks cool for some reason because that's the narrative pushed by the industry since the 50s when they already knew they were selling death.

Just like showing that drinking is cool and hot, when actually there's nothing hot about a beer belly or vomiting everywhere or having a malfunctioning kidney. People in cities tend to be more educated on the subject but these TV series are aired everywhere. Couple of years ago, I came across this documentary showing a man in the northern countryside in Thailand having fun with his four year old girl smoking. Everybody was laughing as if it was just not a problem. Except that toddler was already addicted. She would throw a tantrum if she didn't get her cigarette. She's probably dead now given it was at least 5 or 6 years ago.

Part of my family is from Madagascar, the same issue happens there. Alcoholism is rampant everywhere and everybody is smoking because they don't see how damaging smoking is. Even if you try to explain, they just don't get it. If there's no protective action from the government and education in school, it's just impossible to fight against this image that is promoted through popular series.

And these companies know where to lobby to make sure the legislation doesn't change in these countries. But again I'm never happy so what can I say?

I've never been a fan of GMMTV's abusive PPL but I've noticed they've been pushing the smoking a lot these past few years. I wish they went back to promoting ice tea. It's still too much sugar but at least fat doesn't kill half its consumers and you can always work on a better diet. When your lungs are gone though, they're gone. You're not gonna get back the years lost on this stupid addiction sadly.

And there's reactions like the above comment, which I don't even want to bother with. Typical. As if you're attacking their favorite actor when you're just stating the fact that something is dangerous and abnormal. Easy for you to deny the consequences when you're not the one suffering from them. How many years did rich countries take to educate people on this poison? Our health systems are still suffering the consequences. I'm not that old and I remember we could smoke inside our school when I was in middle school.

Thank God, not everyone is like that. Otherwise we would still get buried under that smoke in every public places in the name of "freedom".

Sigh... I'm starting to miss the days when GMMTV was just PPLing soft drinks, noodles and sweets. They're pushing their main actors to smoke in all their dramas now. You can literally see the tactics the tobacco industry has been riding on for years i.e making smoking look cool to the youth because of course, in rich countries, they can no longer sell as much poison. Laws are way more restrictive regarding the promotion of this industry of death.

And yes the brand is not shown but we all know they're all in on it. There's been plenty of books/documentaries and movies on the subject. The idea is to push an image.
Smoking is hot. Smoking makes you look cool.
The trailer features a professional boxer who smokes... WTF?

Nope smoking is not cool, and you're not gonna look as hot as these actors who are just doing it by obligation. First off, only smokers aren't bothered by the terrible smell and on top of losing part of your sense of taste, you're going to damage your gums and teeth on the long run... and let's not talk about lung cancer and other health complications... as well as the sheer financial costs to buy this sheep... and the additional costs that will come from said health issues.

But hey! As long as GMMTV is making big bucks. Who cares?

Ah well, the third time is usually the charm so I'm gonna remain optimistic but thank you for your answer ^^

Question: Just started season 2 and I spoiled myself Boston's scenes 😭😭😭

I think he's been punished long enough. Does anybody know if they're planning on doing an additional season and if yes, have they talked about FINALLY giving Boston a happy ending?

Well there's time constraints... OR it also could be one of these incomplete scenes they show and then next episode they're gonna show some part of the discussion we didn't see who knows? Maybe it's me who is extrapolating, but when I heard of his worry about history repeating itself ( Mundo has mentioned that Se gye's mother left his father alone and that it traumatized grandpapa) and he wanted Se Gye with a big family, I immediately thought these were the reasons though I understand, the drama has not made his concerns this explicit so far.

This being said, coming back to your answer, you said:

"Yes, their social and financial standings are quite different, but with her career gradually advancing, the gap is slowly closing."

I'm not really sure this argument stands though... I'm currently watching this old drama called " I have a Lover". In it, the ML is the son of a businessman and his mistress, a former Miss Korea. The father quit his ex-wife ( resulting in his daughter hating her younger brother) to hook up with a "non-educated pretty face".
In the whole drama, he spends his time berating his wife about her lack of education, makes you wonder why he left his ex-wife but then again, not the first man to do that I guess. Whether with his wife or mistress, this man is a terrible person.

Anyway, we know Se Gye is not like that because he's the ML of course but we're back to the same issue of coming from different backgrounds. She's an actress who appart from her acting and modeling gigs , has only done odd jobs to survive. Whereas Se Gye is highly educated.

Once the "passion phase" is over, can these two really have enough points in common and subjects to discuss to really be together for life?

I've seen first hand with my own parents' marriage ( on a side note, I have two brothers. All of us are either in our 40s or getting there and none of us are married nor with children. The trauma is real) what having two people with nothing in common makes. It's awful. People always speak about gaslighting, husband hitting wives, cheating etc... as reasons to divorce...

But honestly even without that, life can be pretty terrible when two people are sitting at a table and have absolutely nothing to say to each other. My parents are from a generation that taught them that you have to endure and that as long as your husband doesn't hit you or cheat on you, you as a woman have nothing to complain about. Now people have Internet, you can relate with people outside of you family circle, know what to do when you want to leave... but before? Ha!

The funny thing though is that in my parents' case, my father is the one with the education, my mom didn't have the chance to even finish high school... BUT My mother has always been extremely curious. She spent all the freetime she had learning, reading and furthering her education at home... whereas my father is somebody who doesn't care about literally everything. Apart from watching the news, nothing interests him... But when you're a stay-at-home mom, well past a certain age, it becomes more complicated to divorce economically speaking especially if one of your child has issues, so you're stuck in your unhappy marriage and forget compassion from your own family...

Anyways I'm digressing here...

I like him but sadly careerwise he is really struggling. He did need to part with BLs in order to really make his career soar but sadly none of the BLs he stared in got really popular outside of the usual Bl public. You need one that attracts people who usually don't watch BLs to really interest producers I guess, like what happened with Park Seo Ham and Semantic Error.

Than he got some support roles in dramas that again sadly... weren't really popular... He's been at it for 14 years now... It's truly saddening... Not losing hope though. I really like his face. He's kept his traditional asian features... no plastic surgery in sight.

Really rooting for him. Well some actors got a career boost in their late 30s, he hasn't given up yet... Who knows? Maybe one of these vertical dramas is gonna blow up and his career will getback on track.

I delayed and delayed watching this drama because I really wanted to have enough time to enjoy the whole thing due to the very "intense" shorts with Zhang Ling He...

But the drama turned out very different than what I expected. I went in for the romance but it's way WAY more political than I thought.
Not bad, just not what I signed up for when I decided to watch it...

It's your usual political backstabbing with court ladies being just as nasty as some male characters...

It's just the FL's mother that I just can't stand for the life of me. I'm sure everything is gonna be forgotten because " she cares about her daughter and she just has this habit of saying the opposite of what she thinks" or something... You're the parent, behave like one.

In Mr Queen, the Queen and the Cook are two different people... which is why the ending was so unsatisfying. Whereas here, if they end up staying in their own timeline, since ultimately they're the same person, it will be fine. For Seo Ri... I would expect she was in the past but unconscious due to whatever voodoo the shaman did ( dunno what name to give to whatever weird dance she did). She might have slept for sure, but since the present has been modified, the "she was sleeping" theory doesn't work in my opinion.

Mr Queen wasn't a reincarnation though... In this drama they made it pretty clear that Seo Ri and Dan Shim are the same "soul", same with Se Gye and the Grand Prince. No matter which timeline, they always fall for each other. They have 4 episodes to make us accept that each of them has to stick to their own timeline. It will be fine.

Agree with you but I think it's more the fact that the Grandpa knows he won't be here forever. Se Gye grew up lonely, he doesn't get along with his aunts and cousin... So the grandpa wants him to have what he didn't have in his youth, two loving "substitute parents", a wife and children. Seo Ri on the other side is an orphan with a sick grandma. She can give him children of course, but the big rowdy family is a no".

Basically the grandpa is counting on his daughter in law's family to give Se Gye what he has failed to give him when he was a child.

If you look at it that way, you can understand from where he's coming from...

Also I don't think it's unreasonable for somebody from a wealthy background to ask for his daughter in law to come from the same background... On the long run, it makes life easier for both parties. IRL people tend to go out and marry with people from the same background. Of course this is a romance, and we're rooting for love to win, but reality is, even if they love each other, the constraints of coming from a wealthy background might wear the other party down and it's likely that any sane woman would end up fleeing in the other direction to avoid all the hassle and backstabbing that comes from marrying rich leaving Se Gye alone. We don't know why Se Gye's mother left... but ultimately this could be one of the reason.

It's not necessarily " I don't like this girl" but rather "on the long run, she's going to want to leave"... and what will happen? Most of the time, if the woman leaves, she takes the children with her, and Se Gye is going to end up alone and lonely again.

Look here, Seo Ri and him are not officially going out and yet the whole family is on their back. Now they're probably thinking Grandpa is not gonna support the marriage which would mean they would inherit... BUT if grandpa supports Se Gye in spite of him marrying a movie star and lets him inherit... what kind of hell are they gonna make his daughter in law go through?

These are very genuine concerns that the grandpa probably has... Concerns that only older people who have gone through a lot ( and have seen their fair shares of unhappy marriages) are thinking about.

The way I see it, it's not a matter of not liking Seo Ri at all.

THIS BEING SAID. He is going at it the wrong way. Forcing your grandson to marry a girl he clearly doesn't like, is not gonna work long term either no matter how much he's trying to convince himself he's doing the right thing.

Lol that's fine... Well that does suck pretty bad... One has to wonder why the forced separation at the last minute... Hmm. Well I think it's one of these endings that are easier to accept when you know what to expect beforehand. Thank you 😁

Lol Have you scrolled the comment section? I'm currently watching this show so no thank you, I don't want any spoiler for My Royal Nemesis. I was asking for spoilers for The Story of Park's Marriage Contract.