Bit disapointed... Not that the show is bad, but maybe I expected too much. I expected more mystery games and instead I get your very typical Chinese romance with an emphasis on the working environment... a Chinese specialty?
Compared to most shows of the same genre, it doesn't drag too much even though the romance is more or a less a slow burn... But I didn't start the show for that.
Will continue watching, because the show is nice not extraordinary... It's just that I wasn't in the mood for this type of "classic romance". I was expected more virtual world... Something more along the lines of 19th Floor where a romance developed between the two main characters inside some kind of VR game i.e most of the story happening inside the VR game and not IRL, and we're very far from that...
Should not have started this show "blindly"... I went in with the wrong expectations.
99.99% sure the two previous Kings were killed by the current's Queen's father and that the Queen knows it. Why? Because this actor is ALWAYS the biggest villain in the room. As soon as I saw him it was game over.
Eventually MAYBE Yi An's brother actually committed suicide but I doubt it. Seems he knew he was never fit for the role and hence before he abdicated to his brother, the Queen asked her father to "solve the succession issue". She also probably wished the younger brother had been the oldest one, given how worked up she seems with her brother in law's private life, but sadly no luck on that front.
Girl, these 6 packs were never for you. Also your personality is terrible, neither your husband, nor his brother, nor even your own son enjoy spending a single second in your company... I even doubt you're enjoying being with yourself either.
As much as I'm enjoying myself, this character is truly terribly written so far. She's always power-hungry and throwing jealous fits. Honestly the less screentime she's given, the better.
Would have been pretty simple if the former King had just appointed his youngest as the successor since it was very clear, he was more fit for it. Poor older brother forced to follow footsteps too big for his own shoes, poor younger brother having to always lose on purpose to the oldest. Great Papa really, Could have been friend with Hui Ju's father since they both ruined their children's siblings' relationships with their own prejudices.
I mean I understand the need for conflicts but I wish the villains were less one note. It's really not pleasant seeing them on my screen. At least Hui Ju's brother and his wife are funny.
Now that we're clear on that front, let's focus on our couple's dynamics. I only signed for this drama for Byeon Woo Seok. Yes I'm shallow, I don't care. Gimme more fanservice like in the first two episodes please! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
"On April 17, OSEN reported that The Second Signal had been removed from its summer slot and would not premiere in June as initially planned. In response, tvN clarified later that day that no final decision had been made regarding the drama's broadcast."
So basically, it's a no news article since tvN hasn't made any final decision. Another useless click-bait from MDL writers. I'm really getting tired of those...
EDIT: OH. Figures. It's Lily Alice again... It would be great if MDL put the name of the writers under the title of the article on the front page. That would avoid lots of us giving clicks to this individual who is a fake-news repeating offender.
Interesting comment section where you can see the number of likes for comments from people who obviously haven't bothered to read the article and only stopped at the misleading title... A specialty of MDL in recent years.
I’m on ep 37 now. My third day watching and it’s definitely HOT 🥵.
I ended up dropping it at episode 17 or something maybe before? Some scenes were steamy for sure but not as hot as I thought... But I couldn't bear the overall poor acting especially the FL's... I ended up getting tired of the WTFuckery of it all... Maybe it's a question of mood I don't know... Or maybe it's just too WTF for me who knows... I haven't completely given up on watching this show... but I know now is not really the right time.
I feel like this will also be a little bit angsty.. not as much as LITM for sure. Hopefully the next one will…
100% sure it's gonna be as angsty as LITM. But I don't care. Gotta watch everything from these two. Hopefully it lives up to the hype. I haven't finished a single Thai BL since LITM...
i hate this about the release time that korea sees first and rest of the WORLD should wait for it and also still…
Except China does WEB releases so that actually doesn't count. Often a drama available online is only going to be aired on TV WEEKS later hence the reason why it comes out at the same time for everyone since for Chinese people as well, the drama is often ONLY available online.
The only exceptions to these rules are dramas produced by Chinese channels such as Mango TV, in this instance, it's the same for everyone, TV release and then WEB release after it has already aired on TV.
So nope, China doesn't do it different. The biggest difference is that in SK, Platform produced dramas are a minority ( think anything produced by TVING and even then these shows are often also aired on tvN so it's a bit of a mixed bag) whereas in China, iQiyi, We-Tv and Youku produces the shows which are then sold by them to national channels to be aired on TV and not the opposite.
In Korea, the system is dramas being mostly channel produced with eventually some foreign money and then agreements with OTTs for international release.
So as much as I understand the complain... It's not valid here sorry.
This show is... Weird? I can't help but think this is certainly one of the worst shows I've seen in my life yet these cliffhangers always make me click for the next episode... Also, they've interspaced quite a lot of AI generated sequences that just make my eyes bleed... but I understand... it's a WEB drama, the budget is lower than low... I'm on episode 12 and there's a very short scene where a car is passing through some type of western looking city... Except ( and I used the backward arrow to be sure) the background is just some kind of playtoys. There's 3 looking cowboys but it's pretty obvious that these are dolls not real people. I mean why? Why don't you use your AI generated background here? I don't get it. Also the music is some type of arabian souding stuff but we're in a Western type setting? Just WTF?
AH SORRY.
I used my brain today and forgot to put it in my cupboard before resuming the show. My bad.
That whole Affinity Ren-Yin Virus B- Virus A concept is basically a reinterpretation of the whole Alpha-Omega concept that you see in BLs... except for straight couples. Basically an excuse to see two attractive people making love like rabbits and being so consumed by desire that they can barely hold on to their sanity in each other's presence ( at least in BLs).
Well on episode 3... As asked... I've left my brain at the entrance ( I mean the first episode was ludicrous already, even without being told I knew I had to switch off my brain to enjoy the nonsense)... No opinion at the moment... They've already packed so much in 3 episodes that I have absolutely no idea where they are going with this.
I'm just hoping it's HOT as I've heard it's supposed to be... Otherwise I'll be thoroughly dissapointed.
I mean I tend to stay away from WEB dramas entirely but that insane review my monstersnroses could have convinced even a non-cdrama watcher to check it out.
Just a genuine question (0 hate) : i understand his domestic popularity for shows like heirs, boys over flowers…
The hallyu wave doesn't date back from Squid Game. It actually started in 2002 with the hit K drama Winter Sonata in Japan. From that point on it spread out in all of Asia. Squid Game is the drama that brought it to "mainstream audience" but anybody who has been into anything Asian, whether anime, Jpop, K drama or K Pop or C dramas has known how popular K dramas have been for over 25 years now.
Lee Min Ho got famous with Boys over Flowers in 2009 and you could say it sort of the "second hallyu wave" so to speak. It was already there, but it got even more popular then. Lee Min Ho was all the rage.
Also... based on your comment, I'm assuming you must be pretty young. Fast internet connexion spread widly from the early 2000s... It wasn't fast enough for streaming... but it sure was fast enough for basic download and piracy. Of course, instead of downloading a whole episode in 1 mn, it would take up to 20 mn to 1 hour depending on your connexion, but my generation ( early Millenial) had no choice but piracy since these shows weren't legally available in our countries let alone aired on TV.
Popularity of anime, dramas and the likes never came from OTT. It came from fans, uploading it online to spread their passion to the world. The anime industry, K drama industry etc. would not be as well known as they are now if it wasn't for these fans who made translations for free. It's only when they noticed how popular these shows were underground, that these OTT decided to put in the money for them to be available legally on their platform.
And Lee Min Ho with his insane popularity also made it available... Although as far as I'm concerned, he got too comfy with it and thought it would last forever. Well obviously not.
If you've watched the German series DARK, ALL the plot twists can be guessed by the beginning of episode 4... which just spoils all the fun... If it wasn't for that, I'd probably have rated this higher... but since the whole drama is capitalizing on the surprise factor, all the interest I had just vanished once I could pretty much guess everything... Which is sad, because honestly the series was pretty good.
On a side note, Panida was a truly terrible person through and through though I won't rant about how evil she is here to avoid spoilers. All I can say is that she got off easy given what she did and I pity every single person who ever had the bad luck of having to interact with this selfish woman.
Currently rewatching this one... My advice: Just watch it without caring for comments...
As for me... I discovered Liar Game through this drama... which I LOVE.
After that I never watched the J drama so I can't really judge. I read the full manga though... And I personally like the changes that were made in the Korean drama which is way less cartoonish compared to its manga counterpart. The manga lasted a bit too long and the quality really dropped after half of the series, the games becoming too overly complicated for their own good. Not to say the manga wasn't good... but as with any popular series, they milked it to the point of no return and I was left extremely disappointed by its ending.
The K drama keeps its stellar beginning with some changes and made it more K-drama styled. I really don't get the comments about it being more Japanese than Korean or about this drama being boring... Honestly I find these comments pretty ridiculous. It feels like we watched different shows.
Anyway bottom line... this version has its own flavor and doesn't stick strictly to its source material ( but it doesn't go as far away from the source as other K drama adaptations from the same period... such as City Hunter for instance) but honestly, to me for that particular genre, Squid Game doesn't hold a candle to it, in spite of this show being now almost 15 years old.
Give it a try, I don't think you'll be disappointed but avoid comparison with the manga... The core story and vision behind are just completely different.
Currently on episode 5 and really enjoying it so far... Also because it's been a while I haven't watched a wuxia, and I've been craving one.
Though I think the real identity of one character is pretty predictable. I'll literally eat my hat if this character doesn't turn out to be who I think it is. This also means lots of heartache for said character ahead, though I dunno when the reveal will happen as I've stayed away from any comment or reviews to this day.
Anyway it's off to a very good start for me. Let's see if they keep it up 😎
I don't remember the last scene happening in the manga... It's been years since I read it and the last volume that came out in my country is volume 5, so I know it's a bit behind the Japanese publication.
Anyway, I understand some people might be disappointed by the ending but it somewhat gives an openly satisfying ending to the movie... If there's a sequel, that's great... but as there probably none coming, this probably is the best compromise they could reach given how the manga is still published and my GOD these two's relationship is even more tense and complicated in there. They're nowhere close to be together no matter how crazy about each other they are.
The acting was truly terrific. Both leads truly outdid themselves. The intimate scenes were really passionate and raw, something to really highlight here because Japan is not that good at them most of the time, but here?
They were just PERFECT. Just again... Takeuchi Ryoma and Machida Keita just WOW 🥰🥰🥰
Anyway, as said, the end is the bit of a let down so I'm removing 0.5 for that... but honestly, they was just no time to do better which is also why I'm not holding it against the movie.
Currently on episode 4... Honestly I don't mind the nephew being in love with this result-obsessed girl... If he wants to fail his exams to please her, that's stupid but whatever...
However plotting to make all of your team lose just to please said girl is another story. That's selfish and really annoying to see. I hope he doesn't keep that idiotic mindset to the end because I can't root for his character otherwise. In fact, I currently like him less than even the girl. Right now, he's just a walking doormat and nope, that's not cute, that's just plain stupid. Keep it up and she will be walking all over you your whole life.
I'm not a huge fan of this girl (which just goes to show you can get away with lots of things when you've got a pretty face) but I like the nephew even less for sucking up to her.
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Compared to most shows of the same genre, it doesn't drag too much even though the romance is more or a less a slow burn... But I didn't start the show for that.
Will continue watching, because the show is nice not extraordinary... It's just that I wasn't in the mood for this type of "classic romance". I was expected more virtual world... Something more along the lines of 19th Floor where a romance developed between the two main characters inside some kind of VR game i.e most of the story happening inside the VR game and not IRL, and we're very far from that...
Should not have started this show "blindly"... I went in with the wrong expectations.
You must be pleasant to be around ^^ Good Day to you 🙃🙃🙃
Eventually MAYBE Yi An's brother actually committed suicide but I doubt it. Seems he knew he was never fit for the role and hence before he abdicated to his brother, the Queen asked her father to "solve the succession issue". She also probably wished the younger brother had been the oldest one, given how worked up she seems with her brother in law's private life, but sadly no luck on that front.
Girl, these 6 packs were never for you. Also your personality is terrible, neither your husband, nor his brother, nor even your own son enjoy spending a single second in your company... I even doubt you're enjoying being with yourself either.
As much as I'm enjoying myself, this character is truly terribly written so far. She's always power-hungry and throwing jealous fits. Honestly the less screentime she's given, the better.
Would have been pretty simple if the former King had just appointed his youngest as the successor since it was very clear, he was more fit for it. Poor older brother forced to follow footsteps too big for his own shoes, poor younger brother having to always lose on purpose to the oldest. Great Papa really, Could have been friend with Hui Ju's father since they both ruined their children's siblings' relationships with their own prejudices.
I mean I understand the need for conflicts but I wish the villains were less one note. It's really not pleasant seeing them on my screen. At least Hui Ju's brother and his wife are funny.
Now that we're clear on that front, let's focus on our couple's dynamics. I only signed for this drama for Byeon Woo Seok. Yes I'm shallow, I don't care. Gimme more fanservice like in the first two episodes please! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
So basically, it's a no news article since tvN hasn't made any final decision. Another useless click-bait from MDL writers. I'm really getting tired of those...
EDIT: OH. Figures. It's Lily Alice again... It would be great if MDL put the name of the writers under the title of the article on the front page. That would avoid lots of us giving clicks to this individual who is a fake-news repeating offender.
Rich people break things 🙃🙃🙃
The only exceptions to these rules are dramas produced by Chinese channels such as Mango TV, in this instance, it's the same for everyone, TV release and then WEB release after it has already aired on TV.
So nope, China doesn't do it different. The biggest difference is that in SK, Platform produced dramas are a minority ( think anything produced by TVING and even then these shows are often also aired on tvN so it's a bit of a mixed bag) whereas in China, iQiyi, We-Tv and Youku produces the shows which are then sold by them to national channels to be aired on TV and not the opposite.
In Korea, the system is dramas being mostly channel produced with eventually some foreign money and then agreements with OTTs for international release.
So as much as I understand the complain... It's not valid here sorry.
AH SORRY.
I used my brain today and forgot to put it in my cupboard before resuming the show. My bad.
Well on episode 3... As asked... I've left my brain at the entrance ( I mean the first episode was ludicrous already, even without being told I knew I had to switch off my brain to enjoy the nonsense)... No opinion at the moment... They've already packed so much in 3 episodes that I have absolutely no idea where they are going with this.
I'm just hoping it's HOT as I've heard it's supposed to be... Otherwise I'll be thoroughly dissapointed.
I mean I tend to stay away from WEB dramas entirely but that insane review my monstersnroses could have convinced even a non-cdrama watcher to check it out.
Lee Min Ho got famous with Boys over Flowers in 2009 and you could say it sort of the "second hallyu wave" so to speak. It was already there, but it got even more popular then. Lee Min Ho was all the rage.
Also... based on your comment, I'm assuming you must be pretty young. Fast internet connexion spread widly from the early 2000s... It wasn't fast enough for streaming... but it sure was fast enough for basic download and piracy. Of course, instead of downloading a whole episode in 1 mn, it would take up to 20 mn to 1 hour depending on your connexion, but my generation ( early Millenial) had no choice but piracy since these shows weren't legally available in our countries let alone aired on TV.
Popularity of anime, dramas and the likes never came from OTT. It came from fans, uploading it online to spread their passion to the world. The anime industry, K drama industry etc. would not be as well known as they are now if it wasn't for these fans who made translations for free. It's only when they noticed how popular these shows were underground, that these OTT decided to put in the money for them to be available legally on their platform.
And Lee Min Ho with his insane popularity also made it available... Although as far as I'm concerned, he got too comfy with it and thought it would last forever. Well obviously not.
On a side note, Panida was a truly terrible person through and through though I won't rant about how evil she is here to avoid spoilers. All I can say is that she got off easy given what she did and I pity every single person who ever had the bad luck of having to interact with this selfish woman.
As for me... I discovered Liar Game through this drama... which I LOVE.
After that I never watched the J drama so I can't really judge. I read the full manga though... And I personally like the changes that were made in the Korean drama which is way less cartoonish compared to its manga counterpart. The manga lasted a bit too long and the quality really dropped after half of the series, the games becoming too overly complicated for their own good. Not to say the manga wasn't good... but as with any popular series, they milked it to the point of no return and I was left extremely disappointed by its ending.
The K drama keeps its stellar beginning with some changes and made it more K-drama styled. I really don't get the comments about it being more Japanese than Korean or about this drama being boring... Honestly I find these comments pretty ridiculous. It feels like we watched different shows.
Anyway bottom line... this version has its own flavor and doesn't stick strictly to its source material ( but it doesn't go as far away from the source as other K drama adaptations from the same period... such as City Hunter for instance) but honestly, to me for that particular genre, Squid Game doesn't hold a candle to it, in spite of this show being now almost 15 years old.
Give it a try, I don't think you'll be disappointed but avoid comparison with the manga... The core story and vision behind are just completely different.
Though I think the real identity of one character is pretty predictable. I'll literally eat my hat if this character doesn't turn out to be who I think it is.
This also means lots of heartache for said character ahead, though I dunno when the reveal will happen as I've stayed away from any comment or reviews to this day.
Anyway it's off to a very good start for me. Let's see if they keep it up 😎
I don't remember the last scene happening in the manga... It's been years since I read it and the last volume that came out in my country is volume 5, so I know it's a bit behind the Japanese publication.
Anyway, I understand some people might be disappointed by the ending but it somewhat gives an openly satisfying ending to the movie...
If there's a sequel, that's great... but as there probably none coming, this probably is the best compromise they could reach given how the manga is still published and my GOD these two's relationship is even more tense and complicated in there. They're nowhere close to be together no matter how crazy about each other they are.
The acting was truly terrific. Both leads truly outdid themselves. The intimate scenes were really passionate and raw, something to really highlight here because Japan is not that good at them most of the time, but here?
They were just PERFECT.
Just again... Takeuchi Ryoma and Machida Keita just WOW 🥰🥰🥰
Anyway, as said, the end is the bit of a let down so I'm removing 0.5 for that... but honestly, they was just no time to do better which is also why I'm not holding it against the movie.
Well done, very well done Japan👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Honestly I don't mind the nephew being in love with this result-obsessed girl... If he wants to fail his exams to please her, that's stupid but whatever...
However plotting to make all of your team lose just to please said girl is another story. That's selfish and really annoying to see. I hope he doesn't keep that idiotic mindset to the end because I can't root for his character otherwise. In fact, I currently like him less than even the girl.
Right now, he's just a walking doormat and nope, that's not cute, that's just plain stupid. Keep it up and she will be walking all over you your whole life.
I'm not a huge fan of this girl (which just goes to show you can get away with lots of things when you've got a pretty face) but I like the nephew even less for sucking up to her.