Based on the preview for episode 12, SML is gonna be harsher on SFL.
Sorry guys. I know most people think she deserves better but at some point, when the dude has already told you NOT INTERESTED several times, you should get the hint and stop pestering the poor guy especially when you're being sneaky and trying to get to him through his child. It would be another story when the person hasn't been clear with you but at some point, feelings can't be forced no matter how wonderful a person you are.
If I was the SML, I would have been way harsher earlier. I found her mildly irritating before but now it's going into the "really annoying" category.
Let them both find good partners. Also, he's already divorced with a child, unless he's 10 000% in love with you, he's not gonna bother getting humiliated (and his son by the same token) by your filthy rich parents about how much he doesn't deserve you and blablabla, the usual status difference BS. Something SFL chose to ignore deliberately from the start.
This comment made me laugh. I am 31 years old and still living with my parents because as a single woman there…
I live in France.
1500€ here is the minimum wage. The comparison with your sister doesn't really work because life in France is WAY more expensive.
In fact, your sister's salary is just slightly above the minimum wage here.
Sorry for the "no translation" but basically, the monthly minimum wage which we call "salaire brut" is 1801.80€ (for me it was around 1400€) but I'm assuming what you gave me is her "salaire net" i.e her income after taxes are paid... which will be for a person earning the minimum wage 1426.30€.
In non-habited area, that would be ok to live but since most of us live in the city, honestly that's a tough income to get by since there's quite a lot of bills to add on top. I'm not really sure how much she gets in terms of government subsidies as a European worker though. For people with that income there's usually help for your rent, daily expenses etc... which you already pay for through your taxes... BUT the more you get them, the less you get for your retirement.
ANYWAY. I personally quit at the end of 2022. I was earning around 3200€ back then taxes removed. I don't now how much it was it terms of full salary, never bothered to really pay attention to it but I think it was around 3700/3800€. Of course no government subsidies so I was assuring myself a relatively fat retirement money which I throw away but that's another story.
The funny thing though... is that my father who is now retired is earning WAY MORE than that as a retiree in spite of having done the same job that I did before I quit (though he did used to be in the French military for more than 20 years and that gives you some extra money after retirement).
I live in Paris though... IN Paris, not AROUND Paris and there lies the issue. I'm not gonna go into details but as in every big cities, Paris is located in the center of what we call "Le Grand Paris" - "The Big Paris" which includes Paris and a plethora of suburbian cities. This part of France is the most expensive in the country ( of course).
Paris is Zone 1, and the further you get the number increases with "Le Grand Paris" going up to Zone 5. Thanks to my former job, I'm currently living in Zone 1 BUT paying a rent that for the same surface would be the equivalent of what a person living in Zone 4 would pay.
It's still hella expensive... I used to pay 800€ a month... Now that's gone up to over 900€ and that doesn't include electricity bills, insurance etc.
Now here's the thing... My apartment is slightly below 50sq meters in surface. In the area of Paris where I'm living, ( because OBVIOUSLY some parts are more expensive than others), it's not the most expensive but it's not the least expensive either.
A surface this size ( and it's an old apartment which is not really optimized so it appears smaller than what it is) would normally cost in Paris, depending on the area... Between 1300 and 1600€ a month.
Though the price of the square meter diminishes the bigger the place is... I would assume that having an apartment the size of the FL here would cost at least 5000€ or more.
BUT. Never complain too much. One of my friend who is a scientist used to live in London. Earned about 5000€ a month... Well.
He couldn't find an affordable place so he ended up renting A ROOM in a colocation in the Londonian suburbs.
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Cost of the room: 2200€ a month.
That's it for the money talk. It stresses me out. I haven't earned anything for three years now and with the inflation, my savings which were supposed to last at least 5 years are now almost used up... Gotta find another job but can't get back to my former field so that's another headache. That will be a problem I tackle next month, for now it's almost Christmas, I'm just gonna ignore it.
2. You're a late millenial then. I know it goes up to 1997 but for me it's still way different from the way early millenials lived. The memories are there for sure but in practice I think it really depends on which country you grew up in. I was born in 1986 btw.
3. Studying Korean ( 7 years now and counting), Japanese ( 6 years and counting), Thai ( 4 years and blabla), Traditional and Simplifies Chinese ( 3.5 years and blabla) ^^ Also in my spare time.
And yes, It's a bit too much. I'm praying that I soon get rid of at least the Korean language, to free some time because my God, studying all these languages daily is quite a challenge and I'm tired. I started to feel the drain in my early thirties but now...
It's not that I can't do everything I used todo at 39... It's just that physically the payback for missing sleep is hell to pay the older you get... I used to work with flexible hours in a very masculine field and with the very few female colleagues I had, we discussed a lot about it. Apparently it affects women way worse.
4. There's quite a lot of upcoming K dramas I'm excited about coming up though ^^ BUT even MORE C dramas that I haven't had the time to watch and upcoming that I'm eagerly waited for.
For language purposes though, I really hope the K dramas I'm anticipating live up to my expectations... There's nothing worse than training your understanding skill with a drama that sucks...
Maybe not top tier cities like Shanghai, Shenzhen, Beijing but it’s China after all. She is a creative director…
At episode 2, they haven't divorced yet. They've just separated... Antinh85's explanation seems more likely because at the end of the day, your salary is proportionate to the country you live in. A high income can only get you so far.
This comment made me laugh. I am 31 years old and still living with my parents because as a single woman there…
HAHAHA🤣🤣🤣
Turning 40 years old next year and trust me it doesn't get any better.
Even before I quit my job 3 years ago... I was earning more than 1000€ above the average salary in my country... So VERY good income especially when you're single. Still couldn't afford even half the rent of an apartment the size of the FL let alone buy it.
Right now I'm stuck with a very high rent because no income at present (fortunately I saved a LOT before quitting) so can't look for another place.
Well good luck to us I guess. Who knows when things are gonna get better. It always makes me laugh when I hear millenials are more optimistic than Gen Zs... Are you freaking kidding me?
Sure things are getting worse, but it wasn't good for my generation either. The only difference is we didn't have neither Internet let alone social networks when I was young ( It started to really take off when I attended university) and so we weren't bombarded with an onslaught of depressing news daily... which is way better for one's mental health for sure... but doesn't mean we were optimistic just that we were mentally way less stressed.
Gen Z's main issue right now is:
1. The world is way more f***ed up than before so good luck being self sufficient ( for the record I FINALLY got financially independent at 26 years old personally... the average age in my country was 27 back then so you being stuck with your parents at 31 seems logical given the downward spiral we're all currently stuck in)
2. You're constantly REMINDED that your situation sucks.
"My apartment is not big, but there's two rooms. You can stay in the guest room."
Then, goes to show the apartment which living room is bigger than my apartment with kitchen + living room + bedroom + toilet + bathroom.
... Just how much space do they think ONE person needs? This is not an apartment for the common folk, even considering they're middle class.
This is an apartment for the loaded.
Also the guest room is also ridiculously big and WTF she's got 2 BATHROOMS?
Ah Dramaland... On top of selling a romance with the pretty jiejie that gets the young, bright, ambitious, good looking Didi, you're also selling me the dream apartment that no 30 year-old can realistically afford ESPECIALLY when one has just separated.
It's never a 100% sure thing. This industry can shift and change, contracts expire or get terminated, and the…
SingtoKrist didn't really part because they didn't like acting together... More that Singto was probably tired of all the toxic fandom and wanted to branch out. Being stuck in BLs for years must be really annoying.
I'm of the same opinion regarding keeping the same pairing for years but I do wish to see SmartBoom again on my screen... Hopefully with a better project. The chemistry is insane, but the story is pretty mid in my opinion. The whole show is carried by their onscreen chemistry.
The saddest thing is more that it seems that since the whole falling-out fiasco for whatever management reasons ( I came across a video that spoke about it in length but the bottom line was, Smart's management got greedy which ended up hurting their artist), Smart doesn't have anything lined up.
There's Art Adores En... But I've seen that one listed for YEARS at this point so I think it's safe to say, it's dead in the water. Boom on the contrary has some recent ones lined up...
If it's stays like this, doesn't matter if the situation is resolved at some point. It will already be too late to even hope they're both onscreen together given how Boom is already 34 years old. From what I've read Smart is still tied up to his current contract so unless his company sells him to another agency, he still has to wait for his contract to end... 5 years is nothing for Smart, he'll still be under 30... but youth is the bread and butter of this industry so the damage is literally irreversible shipwise.
Hopefully this contract story is fake though... but it doesn't seem like it.
I have been thinking of checking this one out but the discussion around the 2nd lead is holding me back. Is it…
Personally I don't get most of the complaints. Ok, I get that he can be slightly annoying but honestly it's pretty tame in my opinion. You want ANNOYING, I can name you quite a LOT of C Dramas with terrible SML. That will teach some commenters a thing or two about what a truly clingy insufferable SML is.
Honestly, it's not that some of the complaints are not legit, but it's blown way out of proportion whether it's about the ML, SML, or FL in my opinion...
Which is also why I've literally deserted the comment section. The drama is imho the best romantic comedy in K dramaland this year, and people are complaining over nothing.
AIR IT and DON'T BOTCH IT. AIR IT AS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
I'm so tired of SK destroying people's careers over mere rumors and hearsays.
ALSO. Whether it's China or South Korea. It's time to learn your lesson.
Once filming and post-production is done, AIR IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Don't shelve it for months to air it at "the right time" because you never know what bombshell, real or not, is gonna come out in the following months.
Or don't release it in SK. Release the full version for international audience on Netflix. I don't care. WHY THE HELL are they so bent on ruining everyone's work over rumors regarding one single person and about something that happened over 30 years ago?
There's some very weird writing choices in this series.
The investor from the US speaks with the FL in terrible english... when it is said that she grew up in the US. Both speak to each other with very thick accents YET both are fluent in mandarin SO WHY MAKE THEM SPEAK IN ENGLISH TO EACH OTHER?
Why stick with this awful sounding engrish when it's pretty obvious both are more comfortable speaking Mandarin... Because if it's to make viewers feel like this woman has really been raised in the US, her English is so terrible, even somebody who's not familiar with the language can tell she's not fluent. Take her out of her misery, and just reduce the English to 'Hello'.
Then there's all these scenes with characters switching between what I assume is Cantonese and Mandarin back and forth without explanation... It happens VERY OFTEN... Just WHY? There is no explanation as to WHY they do that.
I'm sorry... It really takes me out of it. Like, I'm enjoying the whole plot but then from time to time you get the forced romance and language switching which doesn't make sense and it just ruins the experience.
Well given how much the poor dude suffered I was expecting MORE DRAMA out of Ji Hyeok according to your usual K Drama standard...
But call me pleasantly surprised. I was expecting him being angry for not that long because obviously, he's too far gone. It was obvious that the predominant feeling would be utter relief that the love of his life is still single...
But I LOVE that they ended up making him petty instead of furious 🤣 It made the whole episode so much more light-hearted than the previous weeks and I SO NEEDED this 🤗
Please keep the pettiness for one more episode and give us a kiss at the end of episode 10. THANK YOU!
EDIT: Ah yeah. Forgot to mention, the end of ep 9 doesn't count. Da Rim is just surprised and not into it so...
Why would she be blacklisted? She has a support role in the movie hana korea.
Seems like she finally got her feet back in the industry then.
It's not written in her description but there was a whole scandal years ago about a role her father refused because she wouldn't get enough money or whatev' and she ended up being replaced by Kim Sae Ron if I'm not mistaken (or another actress in the same age bracket). Anyway, after that she couldn't get any role in spite of her coming out from the success that was Okja. She did get two forgettable roles with unknown and or blacklisted actors but given her fame back then, she should have been an A-lister by now... which is not the case.
Anyway good for her. I'm sure her father really regretted his actions... poor girl was a minor and had no say in the whole hulabaloo. Hopefully she gets back the career she always deserved.
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It would be another story when the person hasn't been clear with you but at some point, feelings can't be forced no matter how wonderful a person you are.
If I was the SML, I would have been way harsher earlier. I found her mildly irritating before but now it's going into the "really annoying" category.
Let them both find good partners. Also, he's already divorced with a child, unless he's 10 000% in love with you, he's not gonna bother getting humiliated (and his son by the same token) by your filthy rich parents about how much he doesn't deserve you and blablabla, the usual status difference BS. Something SFL chose to ignore deliberately from the start.
They regret it to this day... The same house is now worth more than double the price.
1500€ here is the minimum wage. The comparison with your sister doesn't really work because life in France is WAY more expensive.
In fact, your sister's salary is just slightly above the minimum wage here.
Sorry for the "no translation" but basically, the monthly minimum wage which we call "salaire brut" is 1801.80€ (for me it was around 1400€) but I'm assuming what you gave me is her "salaire net" i.e her income after taxes are paid... which will be for a person earning the minimum wage 1426.30€.
In non-habited area, that would be ok to live but since most of us live in the city, honestly that's a tough income to get by since there's quite a lot of bills to add on top. I'm not really sure how much she gets in terms of government subsidies as a European worker though. For people with that income there's usually help for your rent, daily expenses etc... which you already pay for through your taxes... BUT the more you get them, the less you get for your retirement.
ANYWAY. I personally quit at the end of 2022. I was earning around 3200€ back then taxes removed. I don't now how much it was it terms of full salary, never bothered to really pay attention to it but I think it was around 3700/3800€. Of course no government subsidies so I was assuring myself a relatively fat retirement money which I throw away but that's another story.
The funny thing though... is that my father who is now retired is earning WAY MORE than that as a retiree in spite of having done the same job that I did before I quit (though he did used to be in the French military for more than 20 years and that gives you some extra money after retirement).
I live in Paris though... IN Paris, not AROUND Paris and there lies the issue. I'm not gonna go into details but as in every big cities, Paris is located in the center of what we call "Le Grand Paris" - "The Big Paris" which includes Paris and a plethora of suburbian cities. This part of France is the most expensive in the country ( of course).
Paris is Zone 1, and the further you get the number increases with "Le Grand Paris" going up to Zone 5.
Thanks to my former job, I'm currently living in Zone 1 BUT paying a rent that for the same surface would be the equivalent of what a person living in Zone 4 would pay.
It's still hella expensive... I used to pay 800€ a month... Now that's gone up to over 900€ and that doesn't include electricity bills, insurance etc.
Now here's the thing... My apartment is slightly below 50sq meters in surface. In the area of Paris where I'm living, ( because OBVIOUSLY some parts are more expensive than others), it's not the most expensive but it's not the least expensive either.
A surface this size ( and it's an old apartment which is not really optimized so it appears smaller than what it is) would normally cost in Paris, depending on the area... Between 1300 and 1600€ a month.
Though the price of the square meter diminishes the bigger the place is... I would assume that having an apartment the size of the FL here would cost at least 5000€ or more.
BUT. Never complain too much. One of my friend who is a scientist used to live in London. Earned about 5000€ a month... Well.
He couldn't find an affordable place so he ended up renting A ROOM in a colocation in the Londonian suburbs.
...
...
Cost of the room: 2200€ a month.
That's it for the money talk. It stresses me out. I haven't earned anything for three years now and with the inflation, my savings which were supposed to last at least 5 years are now almost used up... Gotta find another job but can't get back to my former field so that's another headache. That will be a problem I tackle next month, for now it's almost Christmas, I'm just gonna ignore it.
2. You're a late millenial then. I know it goes up to 1997 but for me it's still way different from the way early millenials lived. The memories are there for sure but in practice I think it really depends on which country you grew up in. I was born in 1986 btw.
3. Studying Korean ( 7 years now and counting), Japanese ( 6 years and counting), Thai ( 4 years and blabla), Traditional and Simplifies Chinese ( 3.5 years and blabla) ^^ Also in my spare time.
And yes, It's a bit too much. I'm praying that I soon get rid of at least the Korean language, to free some time because my God, studying all these languages daily is quite a challenge and I'm tired. I started to feel the drain in my early thirties but now...
It's not that I can't do everything I used todo at 39... It's just that physically the payback for missing sleep is hell to pay the older you get... I used to work with flexible hours in a very masculine field and with the very few female colleagues I had, we discussed a lot about it. Apparently it affects women way worse.
4. There's quite a lot of upcoming K dramas I'm excited about coming up though ^^ BUT even MORE C dramas that I haven't had the time to watch and upcoming that I'm eagerly waited for.
For language purposes though, I really hope the K dramas I'm anticipating live up to my expectations... There's nothing worse than training your understanding skill with a drama that sucks...
Though close to no romance in that one.
Turning 40 years old next year and trust me it doesn't get any better.
Even before I quit my job 3 years ago... I was earning more than 1000€ above the average salary in my country... So VERY good income especially when you're single. Still couldn't afford even half the rent of an apartment the size of the FL let alone buy it.
Right now I'm stuck with a very high rent because no income at present (fortunately I saved a LOT before quitting) so can't look for another place.
Well good luck to us I guess. Who knows when things are gonna get better. It always makes me laugh when I hear millenials are more optimistic than Gen Zs... Are you freaking kidding me?
Sure things are getting worse, but it wasn't good for my generation either. The only difference is we didn't have neither Internet let alone social networks when I was young ( It started to really take off when I attended university) and so we weren't bombarded with an onslaught of depressing news daily... which is way better for one's mental health for sure... but doesn't mean we were optimistic just that we were mentally way less stressed.
Gen Z's main issue right now is:
1. The world is way more f***ed up than before so good luck being self sufficient ( for the record I FINALLY got financially independent at 26 years old personally... the average age in my country was 27 back then so you being stuck with your parents at 31 seems logical given the downward spiral we're all currently stuck in)
2. You're constantly REMINDED that your situation sucks.
Well 加油！！！
"My apartment is not big, but there's two rooms. You can stay in the guest room."
Then, goes to show the apartment which living room is bigger than my apartment with kitchen + living room + bedroom + toilet + bathroom.
... Just how much space do they think ONE person needs? This is not an apartment for the common folk, even considering they're middle class.
This is an apartment for the loaded.
Also the guest room is also ridiculously big and WTF she's got 2 BATHROOMS?
Ah Dramaland... On top of selling a romance with the pretty jiejie that gets the young, bright, ambitious, good looking Didi, you're also selling me the dream apartment that no 30 year-old can realistically afford ESPECIALLY when one has just separated.
Should have added "Fantasy" in the tags' list.
I'm of the same opinion regarding keeping the same pairing for years but I do wish to see SmartBoom again on my screen... Hopefully with a better project.
The chemistry is insane, but the story is pretty mid in my opinion. The whole show is carried by their onscreen chemistry.
The saddest thing is more that it seems that since the whole falling-out fiasco for whatever management reasons ( I came across a video that spoke about it in length but the bottom line was, Smart's management got greedy which ended up hurting their artist), Smart doesn't have anything lined up.
There's Art Adores En... But I've seen that one listed for YEARS at this point so I think it's safe to say, it's dead in the water. Boom on the contrary has some recent ones lined up...
If it's stays like this, doesn't matter if the situation is resolved at some point. It will already be too late to even hope they're both onscreen together given how Boom is already 34 years old. From what I've read Smart is still tied up to his current contract so unless his company sells him to another agency, he still has to wait for his contract to end...
5 years is nothing for Smart, he'll still be under 30... but youth is the bread and butter of this industry so the damage is literally irreversible shipwise.
Hopefully this contract story is fake though... but it doesn't seem like it.
Honestly, it's not that some of the complaints are not legit, but it's blown way out of proportion whether it's about the ML, SML, or FL in my opinion...
Which is also why I've literally deserted the comment section. The drama is imho the best romantic comedy in K dramaland this year, and people are complaining over nothing.
AIR IT AS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
I'm so tired of SK destroying people's careers over mere rumors and hearsays.
ALSO. Whether it's China or South Korea. It's time to learn your lesson.
Once filming and post-production is done, AIR IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Don't shelve it for months to air it at "the right time" because you never know what bombshell, real or not, is gonna come out in the following months.
Or don't release it in SK. Release the full version for international audience on Netflix. I don't care.
WHY THE HELL are they so bent on ruining everyone's work over rumors regarding one single person and about something that happened over 30 years ago?
GEEEEEEEEEEEEZ.
I finally decided to watch this one...
....
Is SmartBoom really a dead ship? Is there not even a 1% chance that these two will ever act together again? The chemistry is just I.N.S.A.N.E
Is this REALLY, REALLY the end?
The investor from the US speaks with the FL in terrible english... when it is said that she grew up in the US. Both speak to each other with very thick accents YET both are fluent in mandarin SO WHY MAKE THEM SPEAK IN ENGLISH TO EACH OTHER?
Why stick with this awful sounding engrish when it's pretty obvious both are more comfortable speaking Mandarin... Because if it's to make viewers feel like this woman has really been raised in the US, her English is so terrible, even somebody who's not familiar with the language can tell she's not fluent. Take her out of her misery, and just reduce the English to 'Hello'.
Then there's all these scenes with characters switching between what I assume is Cantonese and Mandarin back and forth without explanation... It happens VERY OFTEN... Just WHY?
There is no explanation as to WHY they do that.
I'm sorry... It really takes me out of it. Like, I'm enjoying the whole plot but then from time to time you get the forced romance and language switching which doesn't make sense and it just ruins the experience.
But call me pleasantly surprised. I was expecting him being angry for not that long because obviously, he's too far gone. It was obvious that the predominant feeling would be utter relief that the love of his life is still single...
But I LOVE that they ended up making him petty instead of furious 🤣 It made the whole episode so much more light-hearted than the previous weeks and I SO NEEDED this 🤗
Please keep the pettiness for one more episode and give us a kiss at the end of episode 10. THANK YOU!
EDIT: Ah yeah. Forgot to mention, the end of ep 9 doesn't count. Da Rim is just surprised and not into it so...
It's not written in her description but there was a whole scandal years ago about a role her father refused because she wouldn't get enough money or whatev' and she ended up being replaced by Kim Sae Ron if I'm not mistaken (or another actress in the same age bracket). Anyway, after that she couldn't get any role in spite of her coming out from the success that was Okja.
She did get two forgettable roles with unknown and or blacklisted actors but given her fame back then, she should have been an A-lister by now... which is not the case.
Anyway good for her. I'm sure her father really regretted his actions... poor girl was a minor and had no say in the whole hulabaloo. Hopefully she gets back the career she always deserved.