Yeah... I'm going to wait until next week to binge episode 7 to 10.
You know this drama is the ultimate fantasy of the guy being more into the girl... Gotta be honest, as a heterosexual woman, I like it... up to a certain point.
But here, we're past the halfway mark, and the only person that's been truly tortured in this (inexistant) relationship is Ji Hyeok... And I'm getting tired. Don't get me wrong, I still like the drama BUT, I think the writer has been too sadistic towards the ML and way too lenient toward the FL so I really really hope she experiences PAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNN and LOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNGINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG for at least 2 to 3 episodes and Ji Hyeok doesn't give her a free pass too easily. Because, so far, we've not been given enough reasons to forgive her.
Based on the preview, Da Rim is finally getting a taste of her own medicine and Ji Hyeok's mum is finally growing some well-needed ba*** So hopefully we're getting in that direction... and please bring back the fun by episode 12... I'd like my Christmas to be feel-good and not angsty. Thank you.
I don't know how he's gonna feel when he finds out she's not married for real.
Sadly it would be better if she told him the truth... but for dramatic effect, I think they're planning on making sure he learns it from either Seon U or Ha Yeong or both...
Well we'll know in an hour or so ^^ Depending on the end of the episode and the preview, which I'm going to check, I'll see if I manage to resist until next week to binge everything 😈
PS: Yeah for the house thing... Being introverted to the extreme, I really don't want to inflige that upon myself ( Introverted... not shy though. People tend to mix both and though it's true the majority of introverted people are also shy and/or reserved, I belong to that small minority that is often taken for being extroverted which also leads to its own sets of problems).
but now you know it exists,lol. that's literally the purpose.
I would have known either way when the drama would soon come out... You can already check the most anticipated upcoming dramas and there's also youtube channels talking about whatever drama is soon to come out. This is just utter stupidity.
I was just utterly annoyed, then forgot this drama existed again, showing how useless this fake review was, and got reminded of it because of your answer...
I don't know how he's gonna feel when he finds out she's not married for real.
1. HA! I'm going to try... We'll see if I succeed LATER. But for now, the previews are enough.
2. I guess points of views vary depending on your culture. I know my mum took care of her siblings diapers when they were babies as well. When some of her cousins and sisters had their own, my mum told me that they expected HER to take care of their babies diapers even when they were available. Her refusal to do so as well as other stuffs such as cooking for their parties and whatnot, led them to cut her from their circle.
Clearly my mum was only there to be the family's slave. Needless to say, when I got a very well-paid job ( which I quit since but that's another story), all the aunts and cousins wanted to crash in my apartment (which is IN Paris). Hadn't heard from them for over 10 years. Moved 5 times on my own without any help from the family ( my parents moved 10 000kms away when I turned 19 so not available)... Needless to say, I already saw where this was leading.
Told my mum to tell them my apartment wasn't their hotel and that I liked my peace and quiet. Family culture be damned. Dunno how she told them, because due to the classic "culture thingy" ( In fact I pile them up in my case, I come from a Muslim family with mixed origins including Malagasy and Yemeni) you have to remain polite.
Oh... Yeah. Obviously, I was supposed to say it, but since I told my mum I would do it "my way", she got afraid and told them instead. Well, I never got bothered since so she probably did a great job. She was probably afraid we wouldn't have any family members left if I opened my mouth I guess. I've never been really good with all the tradition BS.
3. For Da Rim, most of the empathy I've lost is also for the same reason. It's just too unfair for ji Hyeok and this situation is long overdue... I hope she gets a GOOD TASTE of her own medecine. She needs to grovel a LOT because the poor guy deserves better.
Hence the fact that I'd rather wait until his (rightful) anger is resolved because I'm sure it's gonna be veeeeeeeeerrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy paintful even if I think Da Rim deserves whatever is coming 1000%.
I don't know how he's gonna feel when he finds out she's not married for real.
Hmm... Can't agree with the part with Seon U though. The fact that Da Rim wanted him to play her husband is only because he was the only man in her life she could ask that. I think it's pretty obvious even to him it had nothing to do with him being seen as a man by her.
We don't know exactly when the kid's mom left and even then I don't really see why taking care of the diapers should be Da Rim's responsibility in the first place. She's his friend, not his wife.
Unless it's an urgency, I'm sorry I'm not gonna take care of the sh*** on your kid's a***.
Also it's not that she didn't know how to do it. She actually performed well, it's just that the diapers were rigged, so she can't be blamed for that either.
We haven't seen lots of interactions with Da Rim and Seon U's son, but it's very obvious from the few things we've seen that the son is used to her. He's too used to her and hence underappreciative of how important she is in his life as is the case with lots of kids. They jump on the novelty and the novelty here is the pretty noona. I don't mean that Ha Yeong doesn't appreciate the child but that how important Da Rim is in Seon U and the child's life shouldn't be underestimated. Da Rim is the noona living below, he's used to her, also she's not trying to hit on his father so she's not wearing the fancy clothes and makeup, obviously the kid is gonna be more into Ha Yeong. Which is very easy when you don't really know people.
I'm surprised your empathy level is higher for Seon U than for Da Rim ^^ You're sure in the minority for that one.
For the sister, I have no opinion at present. I haven't watched episode 7 just the preview for episode 8... I'm going to try and resist watching episode 7 and 8 (except for the previews) in order to binge episode 7 to 10 next week (hopefully).
I have never been in a such dilemma about whether I want to watch a drama or not. A very mixed feeling actually.…
Personally I read the Webtoon Summary posted in the forum and have decided I won't bother. This drama is not for me UNLESS they change some things regarding Ah Jin's character or at least the ending which is why I occasionally silently pop up here.
Waiting for Saturday's finale to see if I should watch this.
I don't blame seon u for trying to hold onto darim. He has his own flaws and they're not bigger than darim, jihyuk…
The problem is not only the pay but rather having the chance to finally get a proper job and not piling up small jobs on top of small jobs wearing yourself out. If you've gone through that hell you'd understand the lie.
She should definitely have told the truth by now, but honestly the getting the job part is understandable especially in this economy.
I don't know how he's gonna feel when he finds out she's not married for real.
Personally I don't dislike her mostly because I think she's completely oblivious of the consequences of her actions... which doesn't excuse them, let's be clear about it.
For Seon U though... I have no empathy because he's using her situation to her advantage. Case in point, he asked SFL not to tell Da Rim that she's in on the secret. Why? He says he doesn't want her to blow their cover since she's not good with acting but the truth is, he wants Da Rim and not her and he doesn't want Da Rim to make any opening for SFL. Given her personality, she would make sure to push these two together if she thought SFL knew, since she only sees him as a friend and as a friend, want him to find somebody else especially since she probably think it would be better for him and his son.
If he truly had a crush, he would have refused her point blanck. They have a 20 year-old friendship between them, they literally know everything about each other so there's absolutely nothing to hide... which was also Seon U's problem. How to shake that comfortable relation they've established between them without making Da Rim on the defensive and this situation provided the perfect excuse.
You can be sure that that punch in the preview is gonna lead to Seon U telling Ji Hyeok, that he doesn't care that they're not married because HE is gonna be Da Rim's man anyway and tell Ji Hyeok to go get married with his chaebol fiancée. Let He and Da Rim get back to their normal lives instead of bringing them into their Chaebol mess.
Anyway My current Empathy level:
Ji Hyeok: 1 000 000%
SFL (can't remember her name for the life of me): 70%. After all she wanted the marriage first. She didn't care that Ji Hyeok didn't want it when she initially agreed so basically, she doesn't give a sh*** as long as she gets what she wants... which is a personally trait that I utterly dislike so here goes.
Da Rim: 50% (There's still mama's hospital bill + not wanting to go back to cumulating jobs... and I can relate VERY hard to that having gone through the same thing)
Seon U: He gets 10%... because his love is doomed anyway and I understand he understands the boat is sailing and he is trying desperatly to hold on to it... so... yeah... I feel a bit for him.
I don't know how he's gonna feel when he finds out she's not married for real.
Personally I'm voting for 2 episodes of pure angst. I mean she literally played with his trauma, it honestly can't get any worse. Also, seeing the end of episode 7, all that mess could have been avoided if Da Rim had been honest from the start and hadn't bail out of him... He wouldn't have agreed with the marriage in the first place.
Now because of one lie, they'reall in a huge mess. Honestly, I feel mostly sorry for Ji Hyeok and the annoying SFL at this point. If it wasn't for Da Rim's lie, the situation would be far less messy. The moment he brandished his black card to get rid of her debt, she should have been honest with him. Now he's gonna feel not only betrayed since everybody knew except him but also the weeks of mental torture?
HA. Good Luck.
I understand why Da Rim did it... But as usual, she waited too long to admit her lie and now everything is blowing up. She honestly has a lot to make up to the ML.
Of course, because he's a lost cause, he'll forgive her eventually ( hence my 2 episodes angst prediction - ep 9 and 10) BUT since there's the whole marriage thing to save his mum... Who knows how much angst we're gonna get until the final ep...😭😭😭
SOAs usual, I skipped the whole episode and went straight to the preview...
Well... I knew it. They're going to wait for episode 8 for the grand reveal... And they're probably gonna do it at the very end of the episode because after ALL the fluff and sexual tension of the first episodes OF COURSE they needed to make it EVEN MORE DRAMATIC before giving us some relief.
I wish I could just wait and binge episode 7 to 10... But I know I won't be able to resist 😫😫😫 So here it is. Come to me my week of torture 😭😭😭
My GOD! I can't with Watari's boss... Brings back painful memories of more than 20 years when I got my first jobs... I WANT TO BASH HIS HEAD AGAINST THE WALL!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬 The number of unpaid hours I did due to abusive managers...
Oh My... Just started this one... I'm reeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy curious about how they're gonna make me ship these two after the torture Yi Xiao went through.
I mean... She basically had no memory yet she was tortured anyway... NO WAY IN HELL am I EVER going to forget this if I was in her place. That would have been a different story if she remembered but she was injured, at her weakest and memory-less and they didn't give a sh***
Really, they couldn't be more at odd from the start.
People have been typing cheating here and there but frankly, what was there to salvage in any of these relationships? Can we call these relationships in the first place?
Both Kaori and Fujisawa should be happy both MLs did it, at least it put them all out of their pretend relationships and misery.
I'm always amazed at how much people can put up with, just because of their fear of loneliness, in spite of feeling even more lonely in their relationships than if they were single.
Also Fujisawa... just no comment. I mean I do have LOTS of comments regarding how they glossed over... you-know-what but whatev'. As for Hagiwara's girlfriend... Girl, if you have a recurring problem with EVERY SINGLE MAN you go out with, MAYBE, just MAYBE, you should take a break from having any relationship and seek therapy instead of leaving a trail of miserable men behind you.
Anyway, interesting drama. But lack of communications almost drove me bonkers. I blame mostly the partners. At least the MLs were trying to talk about their issues with their partners but they both encountered a wall.
I don't see why any of them should feel sorry for what they did, though it would have been better if they broke up before but as this drama showed... people and relationships are messy.
Ending rushed. As usual with these J BLs. They have the most interesting stories and yet they're always overly short.
In spite of its short length, the story is enjoyable... My only regret is that they do kiss quite a lot for such a short drama...
And that wouldn't be a problem if not ALL of these kisses weren't these typical Japanese dead fish kisses that you see everywhere.
They're terrible. Take me out of the moment. If the kisses are so shitty just change the camera angle. I mean I can tell it's fake even with the angle change... but it is still WAY LESS irritating than seeing these soulless pecks on screen.
Furuya Robin is trying a little but Hasegawa Makoto takes the cake in the "no effort" department.
EDIT: Well that's a 7 from me. Watchable but not memorable. The biggest issue is that they tried to pack too much in 6 episodes of 23 minutes and so everything feels rushed. I think if they wanted to stick to that length, a less complex story would have worked better.
Here we get former lovers meeting again, going out together again after some reluctance from one party who breaks up with his 3 year old long girlfriend, a separation, some family drama, a reunion AND flashbacks to the past + 2 love rivals...
WELL THAT'S A LOT ISN'T IT?
Because of that, I couldn't care about both MLs because I was never given enough time to get attached to them.
But it's a short watch and I needed a break from longer shows so this one fit the bill.
Dropped it after 3 episodes. Couldn't get into the acting of the actor interpreting Chiaki.... Didn't help that I just didn't like his character.
I was hoping to like it as much as School Trip, since I've seen this one mentioned several times on School Trip's thread...
Sadly while the latter is cringe but cute, this one was only cringe to me.
The story seemed to be very cute though so I'll probably check the manga at some point which I think will probably suits me better than the live-action.
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I'm going to wait until next week to binge episode 7 to 10.
You know this drama is the ultimate fantasy of the guy being more into the girl... Gotta be honest, as a heterosexual woman, I like it... up to a certain point.
But here, we're past the halfway mark, and the only person that's been truly tortured in this (inexistant) relationship is Ji Hyeok... And I'm getting tired. Don't get me wrong, I still like the drama BUT, I think the writer has been too sadistic towards the ML and way too lenient toward the FL so I really really hope she experiences PAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
and LOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNGINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG for at least 2 to 3 episodes and Ji Hyeok doesn't give her a free pass too easily. Because, so far, we've not been given enough reasons to forgive her.
Based on the preview, Da Rim is finally getting a taste of her own medicine and Ji Hyeok's mum is finally growing some well-needed ba***
So hopefully we're getting in that direction... and please bring back the fun by episode 12... I'd like my Christmas to be feel-good and not angsty. Thank you.
Well we'll know in an hour or so ^^ Depending on the end of the episode and the preview, which I'm going to check, I'll see if I manage to resist until next week to binge everything 😈
PS: Yeah for the house thing... Being introverted to the extreme, I really don't want to inflige that upon myself ( Introverted... not shy though. People tend to mix both and though it's true the majority of introverted people are also shy and/or reserved, I belong to that small minority that is often taken for being extroverted which also leads to its own sets of problems).
I was just utterly annoyed, then forgot this drama existed again, showing how useless this fake review was, and got reminded of it because of your answer...
2. I guess points of views vary depending on your culture. I know my mum took care of her siblings diapers when they were babies as well. When some of her cousins and sisters had their own, my mum told me that they expected HER to take care of their babies diapers even when they were available. Her refusal to do so as well as other stuffs such as cooking for their parties and whatnot, led them to cut her from their circle.
Clearly my mum was only there to be the family's slave. Needless to say, when I got a very well-paid job ( which I quit since but that's another story), all the aunts and cousins wanted to crash in my apartment (which is IN Paris). Hadn't heard from them for over 10 years. Moved 5 times on my own without any help from the family ( my parents moved 10 000kms away when I turned 19 so not available)... Needless to say, I already saw where this was leading.
Told my mum to tell them my apartment wasn't their hotel and that I liked my peace and quiet. Family culture be damned. Dunno how she told them, because due to the classic "culture thingy" ( In fact I pile them up in my case, I come from a Muslim family with mixed origins including Malagasy and Yemeni) you have to remain polite.
Oh... Yeah. Obviously, I was supposed to say it, but since I told my mum I would do it "my way", she got afraid and told them instead. Well, I never got bothered since so she probably did a great job. She was probably afraid we wouldn't have any family members left if I opened my mouth I guess. I've never been really good with all the tradition BS.
3. For Da Rim, most of the empathy I've lost is also for the same reason. It's just too unfair for ji Hyeok and this situation is long overdue... I hope she gets a GOOD TASTE of her own medecine. She needs to grovel a LOT because the poor guy deserves better.
Hence the fact that I'd rather wait until his (rightful) anger is resolved because I'm sure it's gonna be veeeeeeeeerrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy paintful even if I think Da Rim deserves whatever is coming 1000%.
We don't know exactly when the kid's mom left and even then I don't really see why taking care of the diapers should be Da Rim's responsibility in the first place. She's his friend, not his wife.
Unless it's an urgency, I'm sorry I'm not gonna take care of the sh*** on your kid's a***.
Also it's not that she didn't know how to do it. She actually performed well, it's just that the diapers were rigged, so she can't be blamed for that either.
We haven't seen lots of interactions with Da Rim and Seon U's son, but it's very obvious from the few things we've seen that the son is used to her. He's too used to her and hence underappreciative of how important she is in his life as is the case with lots of kids. They jump on the novelty and the novelty here is the pretty noona.
I don't mean that Ha Yeong doesn't appreciate the child but that how important Da Rim is in Seon U and the child's life shouldn't be underestimated. Da Rim is the noona living below, he's used to her, also she's not trying to hit on his father so she's not wearing the fancy clothes and makeup, obviously the kid is gonna be more into Ha Yeong.
Which is very easy when you don't really know people.
I'm surprised your empathy level is higher for Seon U than for Da Rim ^^ You're sure in the minority for that one.
For the sister, I have no opinion at present. I haven't watched episode 7 just the preview for episode 8... I'm going to try and resist watching episode 7 and 8 (except for the previews) in order to binge episode 7 to 10 next week (hopefully).
I just can't bear the angst.
Waiting for Saturday's finale to see if I should watch this.
She should definitely have told the truth by now, but honestly the getting the job part is understandable especially in this economy.
For Seon U though... I have no empathy because he's using her situation to her advantage. Case in point, he asked SFL not to tell Da Rim that she's in on the secret. Why? He says he doesn't want her to blow their cover since she's not good with acting but the truth is, he wants Da Rim and not her and he doesn't want Da Rim to make any opening for SFL.
Given her personality, she would make sure to push these two together if she thought SFL knew, since she only sees him as a friend and as a friend, want him to find somebody else especially since she probably think it would be better for him and his son.
If he truly had a crush, he would have refused her point blanck. They have a 20 year-old friendship between them, they literally know everything about each other so there's absolutely nothing to hide... which was also Seon U's problem. How to shake that comfortable relation they've established between them without making Da Rim on the defensive and this situation provided the perfect excuse.
You can be sure that that punch in the preview is gonna lead to Seon U telling Ji Hyeok, that he doesn't care that they're not married because HE is gonna be Da Rim's man anyway and tell Ji Hyeok to go get married with his chaebol fiancée. Let He and Da Rim get back to their normal lives instead of bringing them into their Chaebol mess.
Anyway
My current Empathy level:
Ji Hyeok: 1 000 000%
SFL (can't remember her name for the life of me): 70%. After all she wanted the marriage first. She didn't care that Ji Hyeok didn't want it when she initially agreed so basically, she doesn't give a sh*** as long as she gets what she wants... which is a personally trait that I utterly dislike so here goes.
Da Rim: 50% (There's still mama's hospital bill + not wanting to go back to cumulating jobs... and I can relate VERY hard to that having gone through the same thing)
Seon U: He gets 10%... because his love is doomed anyway and I understand he understands the boat is sailing and he is trying desperatly to hold on to it... so... yeah... I feel a bit for him.
Now because of one lie, they'reall in a huge mess.
Honestly, I feel mostly sorry for Ji Hyeok and the annoying SFL at this point. If it wasn't for Da Rim's lie, the situation would be far less messy.
The moment he brandished his black card to get rid of her debt, she should have been honest with him. Now he's gonna feel not only betrayed since everybody knew except him but also the weeks of mental torture?
HA. Good Luck.
I understand why Da Rim did it... But as usual, she waited too long to admit her lie and now everything is blowing up. She honestly has a lot to make up to the ML.
Of course, because he's a lost cause, he'll forgive her eventually ( hence my 2 episodes angst prediction - ep 9 and 10) BUT since there's the whole marriage thing to save his mum... Who knows how much angst we're gonna get until the final ep...😭😭😭
I wish I could just wait and binge episode 7 to 10... But I know I won't be able to resist 😫😫😫 So here it is. Come to me my week of torture 😭😭😭
As usual, I skipped the whole episode and went straight to the preview...
The number of unpaid hours I did due to abusive managers...
I mean... She basically had no memory yet she was tortured anyway... NO WAY IN HELL am I EVER going to forget this if I was in her place.
That would have been a different story if she remembered but she was injured, at her weakest and memory-less and they didn't give a sh***
Really, they couldn't be more at odd from the start.
Can we call these relationships in the first place?
Both Kaori and Fujisawa should be happy both MLs did it, at least it put them all out of their pretend relationships and misery.
I'm always amazed at how much people can put up with, just because of their fear of loneliness, in spite of feeling even more lonely in their relationships than if they were single.
Also Fujisawa... just no comment. I mean I do have LOTS of comments regarding how they glossed over... you-know-what but whatev'.
As for Hagiwara's girlfriend... Girl, if you have a recurring problem with EVERY SINGLE MAN you go out with, MAYBE, just MAYBE, you should take a break from having any relationship and seek therapy instead of leaving a trail of miserable men behind you.
Anyway, interesting drama. But lack of communications almost drove me bonkers. I blame mostly the partners. At least the MLs were trying to talk about their issues with their partners but they both encountered a wall.
I don't see why any of them should feel sorry for what they did, though it would have been better if they broke up before but as this drama showed... people and relationships are messy.
Ending rushed. As usual with these J BLs. They have the most interesting stories and yet they're always overly short.
And that wouldn't be a problem if not ALL of these kisses weren't these typical Japanese dead fish kisses that you see everywhere.
They're terrible. Take me out of the moment. If the kisses are so shitty just change the camera angle. I mean I can tell it's fake even with the angle change... but it is still WAY LESS irritating than seeing these soulless pecks on screen.
Furuya Robin is trying a little but Hasegawa Makoto takes the cake in the "no effort" department.
EDIT: Well that's a 7 from me. Watchable but not memorable. The biggest issue is that they tried to pack too much in 6 episodes of 23 minutes and so everything feels rushed. I think if they wanted to stick to that length, a less complex story would have worked better.
Here we get former lovers meeting again, going out together again after some reluctance from one party who breaks up with his 3 year old long girlfriend, a separation, some family drama, a reunion AND flashbacks to the past + 2 love rivals...
WELL THAT'S A LOT ISN'T IT?
Because of that, I couldn't care about both MLs because I was never given enough time to get attached to them.
But it's a short watch and I needed a break from longer shows so this one fit the bill.
I was hoping to like it as much as School Trip, since I've seen this one mentioned several times on School Trip's thread...
Sadly while the latter is cringe but cute, this one was only cringe to me.
The story seemed to be very cute though so I'll probably check the manga at some point which I think will probably suits me better than the live-action.