Clinically-Insane

I never focus on a single thing or person in a drama. I try to look at it from different angles but this show provide none other than the love triangle. The miserable character set up for happiness (SO) was sidelined (like the first season was nothing), JJ is too annoying to be a main character, HY is too perfect to relate to and the plot is nothing but about hurting people and then giving them a happy ending even if it doesn't make sense.

Only 2 users have rated it. It will come down really quick when people are finished with watching the drama.

Your profile picture literally is my mood right now. STRESSED AND PISSED OFF!

Tell me they didn't turn SO into an asshole just so we can have a HY×JJ ship! For a character who was the most talked about in season 1, they didn't even give him enough screen time (he isn't even shown in ep 1!).
Do your ship (HY×JJ) and everything writer but don't just sideline a main characters and then fix everything about him by giving him an ending with a girl he didn't even love!

For a show which is based on a love triangle and has plot that's about 80% nonsensical love between 3 people, ofcourse people would be pissed if they don't get the ending they want. It's not like the show had any other issue to state or depict which we can pay attention to. It was about the love triangle and people aren't happy how it turned out. There's nothing wrong with that.

Tell me if they turn SO into an unlikeable character, for the sake of JJ×HY ship, when the drama is out.
I will watch Navillera instead if they actually do that.
I don't care about the ships but i do care about the characters and it's very repulsive to me as viewer when the writer writes a character whose only influence and reasons for doing things is a "girl" especially a character like SO, who's a lot more than just a plot device for a ship.

The "romanticism of pain" is what I thought of when I finished the drama not when they were in a relationship. I thought they didn't explain as to why and what got them back together. As someone who believes that relationship is not only based on feelings but a choice, I was bothered by how they depicted that. I was waiting for HS to learn that he can make a choice to protect himself and clearly state what he wanted in a relationship because his previous ones failed because of that. I don't believe "only giving" can lead to a successful relationship because IT DOESN'T. A relationship whole point is "two people" and not one. I don't expect you to see eye to eye with me when I state that expecting things from a partner is healthy and romantic. I expect a partner not to cheat, to be open about what he/she wants, to be considerate and things like that. Like I said, a relationship shouldn't be based upon feelings only but a choice, to choose whether you should be in a relationship with someone or not. The choice shouldn't be based on feelings only but what they can be and will be together. I believe people should work for happiness and shouldn't sacrifice happiness for a relationship that's not supposed to stick. IT'S COMPLETELY FINE TO PRIOTISE AND PROTECT YOURSELF. Make choices for yourself and if someone else is worth the risk for you to consider him/her in the stimulants of that choice, then go along with it. If not, carve a path for yourself and happiness.

This is a public forum where people state things they think are right. It's not about insulting others but stating what I feel. If that contradicts you beliefs somehow, feel free to ignore it or be against it. Different beliefs of different people shouldn't be taken as an insult just because they are different from yours.

Fair enough. You can disagree.

Fine, maybe I felt too bad for ML and that's why I mentioned the scenario of equal efforts. I should have said "should have put enough efforts to make the relationship work". She didn't put any effort in order to save the relationship and when she couldn't handle it, she broke it off without even discussing it with him. I consider that being selfish, she only cared about her baggage of emotions and situations without listening to what he had to say. She gave up on their relationship and I think it was expected.


Yes things would have worked if they worked off their differences or worked on accepting the differences but they DID NOT. I'm more bothered by how they reconciled than how they broke up. They didn't work on anything except her saying a drunken sorry and be stuck in the most cliche situations ever. What I expected from the ML to learn is to ask questions about himself and make it clear with her as to where they stand and what they need to do in order to get back together. Their situation looked more desperate than understanding each other or handling their differences. What if there is another job opportunity and what if it's again an LDR situation if one of them moved for work? Those questions would have been a start and an effort from the ML to protect himself.

I NEVER EXPECTED AN IDEAL SITUATION FROM THEM. I don't know where you got that from. Their situation was far from ideal even when they were in a relationship. She couldn't handle the "not so ideal situation" and broke it off. Stop presuming things.

I never expected someone to be what I want them to be even if I am in a relationship (I like it when there are differences, that makes us different people). The "love doesn't expect anything in return" is not something I believe in. If I love someone and they accept my feelings, I would ofcourse expect things and that's not asking her to change for me but rather open about what we both want in a relationship. There's nothing wrong in communicating what is and can be in a relationship. If I am bothered about something or if she's, I expect talking about it, not blindly believing in emotions to make us go through our situations alone. That's not asking for a change of personality but an advance towards understanding of each other and whether I can be with that someone for whom they are. If yes than carry, if not then either work on it or break it off before the differences break it off for you.

HE DID LOVE HER DESPITE ALL HER SHORTCOMINGS and I commended him for that. The conversation never was about their relationship but how they mended the broken one. It was freaking depressing.

I disagree wholeheartedly with all the "no one was selfish" in the relationship. SHE WAS. "Selfish" by definition means "being concerned about oneself and lacking consideration for other people" and that fits perfectly with what she did. I don't know why you're refusing to see that.

Nope i never mind mistakes but hers was a choice and not a mistake. She made a choice and only, when she got what she wanted, did she come to regret her choice because why not. He was a perfect man to expect love from.
Look I'm not against her choosing her career but we don't have to sugar coat it by stating that it was a mistake. It always was the way where she prioritised herself over him and we should acknowledge it.
Anyway you seem to believe that fixing a wrong is only a matter of being stuck in an elevator and saying a "sorry" but IT IS NOT.

That would have been a better ending than the one we got!

And where was that?
Did her efforts to get back together with him by playing the victim card rather than taking the responsibility for her action somewhat made it more justifiable or less selfish? No, it did not.
Did her regret, after hurting him for selfish reasons, somehow made her seem like she was prioritising him? No, it did not. She achieved what she set out to achieve at the expense of their relationship and after being done with her priorities, she turned around and our ML (the hopeless case) was there for her to take after saying a sorry and being in some cliche situations. That's not how people mend a broken relationship!
She was selfish and only cared about what she felt about the relationship and never asked what he thought about it, that's just wrong. I don't know why you people refuse to see the obvious when it is all over the place. She achieved what she wanted in her career and I'm happy for her but to actually blame circumstances (like LDR etc) rather than your priorities and choices is kind of making my head hurt. I mean she knew what she was doing and initiated the breakup herself. The least he deserved, after the shit he went throughout the drama, is a fresh start with someone who'll love him the same as he does.
The only logical way to put my head around this ending is they ended up together because she was the FL in the drama and ofcourse it would be a sin (according to kdrama book of law) for ML to even look at another girl after their breakup. It was unrealistic, selfish and clearly depressing.

So kids here is the lesson of the drama; VALUE AND PRIOTISE YOURSELF OVER PEOPLE WHO DOES IT THEMSELVES.
Am i against her decision to prioritise her career over her relationship with ML? No.
Am i against the fact that they ended up together even when they clearly shouldn't have? Yes.
The feelings and personalities involved in this relationship are so different. The ML loves with all he has in a relationship and never learns a simple fact of the matter and that is; A RELATIONSHIPS WORKS ONLY WHEN BOTH THE PEOPLE INVOLVED PUT IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF EFFORT NOT JUST ONE. His previous girlfriend cheated on him and the FL was pretty nonchalant when they were in a relationship (he was in it too deep) but was straight forward about what she wanted from her life and he wasn't in the list. What does that tell you? Nothing except the fact that they are two very different and incompatible people who shouldn't be together. The FL deserved her success in career (which she got) and the ML deserved someone who will genuinely love him and put him in her priorities list as he will.
This drama romanticises the pain of one person who's selfless and the inability of the other, who's selfish, to be considerate (I'm not blaming her but the relationship). It's not how a relationship is or should be.
NEVER AGREE TO BE IN A RELATIONSHIP OF THIS KIND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE THE SELFLESS ONE. IT WILL ONLY HURT YOU AND YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN TO BE HURT BY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T EVEN DESERVE YOU. LOVE AND PRIOTISE (SOMETIMES) YOURSELF.

Yeah like are we watching the same drama?
The only only thing he did was love her with all he had and she broke up with him (for reasons i can understand) but now he's protecting himself rather than be someone he was before. He was hurt when he was the most sincere but he doesn't want to be hurt again. Is that a bad thing!

I loved his performance in "Sweet Home" and i was just stunned by the physicality and emotional values of his character that he so flawlessly pulled off. I watched "Love alarm" first and thought, "okay he can act!" especially his emotional scenes but when i watched "Sweet Home", i was so attached to his character and one of the main reasons was the believability of his acting. I never thought i was watching Song Kang acting, i always saw him as Cha Hyun Soo. The diversity of his roles and his capability to pull of a character is a treat to watch.

I was kind of more focused on the main plot and characters that i ignored the relationship between VC and HCY but a friend of mine showed me an edit of them, I'm going to admit that I'm all up for it. I always was a fan of romance where we know why the main leads like each other than scenario where they just like each other. I'm waiting for them to build a relationship together through trust, consideration and understandings of each other. I kind of saw that in "Dr romantic" season 2 and "Do you like brahms?". I loved the main leads and their relationship in those two. It is far more realistic and start of something stronger this way.

She never was jailed, it was an on going investigation. If you didn't notice clearly, the one under investigation can't be allowed to roam around to investigate herself. The cops were payed to hold her and she presented them with facts and potential evidence. It's the cop's job to investigate whether what she claimed was true or not but he didn't because he was payed to hold her without any reason and she clearly knew that herself. She needed a lawyer at the time and VC showed up, even if he didn't the cop's would have let her go after 48 hours.

I never took your words out of context, i pointed out that the plan VC presented was most likely to succeed and she acknowledged that, her contribution would have been required if he didn't provide a good plan. VC told her before the case that she would have to listen to him and go with his plans and she agreed (for good reasons). She let him take charge outside the court room.

As i mentioned the reasons as to why the victims didn't want want to do anything with her, one of them was their hopelessness. Their fear broke their courage after her father (the man who fought for them) was killed and falsely accused. They never would have agreed without a proper stimulant and the recordings served that purpose. I don't believe they would have agreed only because VC (a person they haven't even seen before) said something hopeful.

Absolutely not. I have multiple criticisms of my own related to dragging scenes unnecessarily, slow pace of character progression and many more. I just need criticism on what the real issues are here, not ones related to expecting something that the writer didn't even set out to show in the drama. Expectations defiant is different from flaws. We should criticise the later not the former especially when it's consistent with the characterization of the character.

VC was set to outshine everyone because the plot revolves around him. He's supposed to be what is depicted in the drama. I mean the man is a lawyer and an italian mafia consigliere. The Italian mafia is one of the strongest crime organisations in the world and to be within its leadership structure is something that says a lot about how capable the man is. He was supposed to outshine lawyers whose worst imagination was his actual life. Circumstances and situations change people, it's more about his experience than his intelligence. The combination is what allows him to be what he is.

Coming to HCY and her state of character. She is careless and has never faced someone to the caliber of Babel and Wusang. Does that make her incompetent? No. It only makes her someone who's learning to be better. We haven't seen her as a lawyer (her real job) but an investigator till now. We will see how well of a lawyer she is when she has the right tools to work with in a court room.
The victims didn't want anything to do with her because of her father and their hopelessness. Without the recordings there was no other way and she handled the situation well considering VC didn't know how to convince them himself.
VC gave her a plan to delay the court precedings and she listened. It was a multilayered plan and she acknowledged it's effectiveness. This shouldn't be a reason to call her incompetent.
I agree with the wiretap thing, i saw that from a mile but like i explained she is used to powerful people having her back (her previous firm) and hence lets her guard down especially when emotions are involved. She was more focused on her hatred towards the lady than the lady's ability to be deceiving.

I'm not saying that the drama is perfect or without any faults but it isn't to the point that people pushes it to be.

Idk why they are not seeing or refusing to see the obvious. Let's just hope they see it in the upcoming episodes as it'll involve her helping VC cope with his situations.

True!

I may have to borrow your imagination and judgement here on this comment, please bear with me.
The notion that SO stole JJ from HY is literally the most cringe worthy and against individuality of a person. JJ isn't a thing and she never was even associated with HY. Now I'm not saying that SO was right here but did he do something horrible? absolutely NO. Was he a great friend to HY? NO. Does that make him a bad person? absolutely NOT.
He loved JJ with all he had and never mistreated her (she did). The only thing that people are complaining about is his priority of being with JJ over his friendship with HY. I'm absolutely fine with him doing that. Everyone has priorities and that doesn't at all make them undeserving of love or deserving of emotional abuse and rejection without any reason. HY is literally doing the same thing and even worse, he's literally after someone who his best friend had a relationship with and still loves even after 4 years! Does that make HY a great friend? NO. Does that make him a horrible person? absolutely NOT. They are humans and they can have priorities.

JJ on the other side is literally not worth fighting for especially for SO. She broke up with him without giving a reason a let him live in misery and pain for 4 years. He deserves better than that and he has someone (YJ) who's willing to be there for him and listen to him. I just want SO to be happy and get what he deserves.
The writers are setting SO to be a villian just so we can swallow the HY and JJ arc. That says volumes about the importance of SO's character and his effect of viewers. They are going to mess up if they ruin the character for the sake of a ship (HY and JJ).