Clinically-Insane

Well chemistry is interactions based on psychology and emotional factors and they had enough time for that. A kiss isn't chemistry, their interactions is. I always saw HY as a good friend to JJ not a potential love intrest. Maybe season 2 will change my opnion about HY but SO had tons of chemistry with JJ. I think it has also things to do with acting abilities, Song Kang convinced me to root for him through his believable acting.

Here it is.
I would love to see a SO and JJ ending and the reason for that is they had chemistry, likeability and most of all a friction where there's uncertainty. Now people seem to argue that SO wasn't a good friend to HY, do i agree to that? Yes but does that make SO a bad person or someone who doesn't deserve love from the person he loves? Absolutely not. Humans are more than just being labelled as bad or undeserving of love just because they can't be good friends to people. There's more to a person than a generalisation based on how he/she treats a friend. SO is exactly that person, he's falwed but at the same time has qualities which is realistic as hell. He always was good to JJ and the preference on who should end up with who should be based on how the potential partners treated each other not how they treated their friends. He's a realistic character who shows emotions rather than hiding it. He treated JJ the best he could and she was happy with him.
HY on the other hand is perfect and i love him for that. He is just good and deserving of love. I would be fine if JJ ended up with him but my preference for a SO and JJ ending is because HY had no chemistry with JJ and being a Kdrama watcher, chemistry tops my list of factors in a romance between two people. HY is too good to be true while SO is more flawed hence could be relatable. The scene where he begged JJ to love him again literally broke my heart. They just had the chemistry i needed to take a romance seriously but HY and JJ didn't. I'm not saying HY doesn't deserve JJ but what i prefer.

All that argument would make sense under the presumption that she's starting to have feelings for him but from what we have been shown in the drama and what you said doesn't in anyway describe that she has feelings for him as a man and not just a need for his attention and consideration. Are those really reasons to presume something as her having feelings for him? NO. I don't know why you think that allowing him to put his head on her shoulder or going on drinks with his friends is equivalent to her starting to have feelings for him. She can do that even without any of those reasons considering their relationship.
It's pretty unclear as to what she feels towards the ML till this point. Her confession had all the reasons for me to believe that. It could be the crave for attention or it could be what you explained. If it's the later then she better pull it up and own her decision later but if it leads to her wavering between her ex and the ML, then it pretty much explains the situation here.


Like i said, there's absolutely no pretext to presume that she's starting to have feelings for him and not just missing his attention without trying to do something for him. If she truly wants to pursue a relationship with him then I'm fine with her confession as it can be considered honest and fair. I made the comment on the basis of what we have watched till now and i explained why her actions are wrong without presuming something as her having honest intentions towards him as a man.
Yes he does have the choice to take the risk and i know most of the times the ML will be hell bent to prioritise the FL over himself. He did make a choice to move on for multiple reasons but she confessed something which will be wrong if she was dishonest in stating her being okay with his feelings towards him. If she is then it's both unfair and wrong on her part. The least he deserves is consideration and fairness from her.
I don't know why you don't consider it wrong just because he has the choice. He made the choice and she basically changed it by saying things i hope she meant but if it's just an effort of her to have his attention and not being considerate towards his feelings at all, it's still wrong even if he made the wrong choice. Hurting someone emotionally is still wrong even if that someone chose to, especially on the pretext of her being the reason and her confession being the catalyst for him to make that choice. He would have moved on otherwise.
You comment would be justifiable if she really did have honest intentions but it would be a disappointment if she was just considering herself and her feelings at the expense of him getting hurt. AGAIN he at least deserves consideration from her towards his feelings. I'm not saying she should have feelings for him but it doesn't at all mean that her decisions and actions will be fair and not wrong if he ends up getting hurt.

It doesn't matter why he chose to move on, not at all from her perspective. Him moving on was the right thing to do here and she knows that. She clearly isn't over her ex and it is a possibility that her feelings for the ML is nothing more than a want for attention and consideration, not love or like for him. His reasons shouldn't matter at all considering her state of emotions and consideration towards him. He deserves better than just being a rebound or a punch bag for her to vent her emotions. She clearly knows that and i expected her to acknowledge it too.
I agree that she didn't keep him by her side by lying or something like that and i liked that about her character. All those actions were honest and him trying to move on was what her actions accomplished. I appreciated her for having consideration and fairness towards him and his feelings. He did the same for her and even more.

That's the point here. I would have been completely fine if she was sure of her feelings towards him. I wouldn't expect feelings like love on her behalf so soon but at the least an idea or a want to pursue a honest relationship with him would have been fine. It wouldn't have been the same if she was sure about what she feels but she isn't, not till now.
That makes her selfish and her actions wrong towards someone who has always put her feelings above his. He constantly took steps towards her and she moved away (for good reason) but when he tries to step back she gives him hope to chase her even when she's not sure whether his steps (feelings) are wanted or not. She doesn't know what she feels and her inability to do that shouldn't be in anyway a justifiable reason to set him towards a possible hurt break. He doesn't deserve that.

Being selfish and unfair towards a person who always was selfless and fair towards her is wrong. She told him that her feelings aren't a burden and every person with unrequited feelings would think that the object of their feelings is at the least open to his feelings and a relationship with him but she isn't. She is still hurt and haven't moved on at all. Why would she want him to be the one to fill her the gaps in her life and be someone who's there for her emotionally when she doesn't allow herself to do the same for him. We know where that leads to in life. I just wish he keeps his distance (i know it's hard) and realise that he doesn't deserve that but much better. I would be fine if they pursue each other after knowing what they want and what they should get from each other.
My feelings about her actions are based on what the drama has portrayed till now. I'm completely ready to change my view about it later if the situations convince me. I don't consider her a dishonest or a bad person, i just think her actions regarding him are wrong and unfair.

Ok so the comments seem confusing considering the FL and her state of emotions towards the ML.
I think it's fair enough to consider her being selfish when she asked him to wait when he was clearly trying to move on. I'm not saying that she did something horrible here or denying the fact that she doesn't owe him anything other than being fair to him. I don't want her to jump into a relationship with him because she still hasn't moved on from her ex which is completely realistic and fine. She has no obligation to love the ML or to start a relationship with him. I liked that she was mature and clear about that point from the start and i liked that became the active force for the ML to try to move on. I liked his character development which is so rare in kdramas.
But at the end of the last episode, i didn't like what she did and it was clearly selfish and the wrong thing to do. If you're not clear about what your feelings for someone, when that someone is trying to move on from his unrequited feelings (which hurts like hell), i think it's wrong to give him hope on the basis of what you might or will feel about him. He has been nothing more than a great support and friend to her who prioritised her feelings over his and i expected the same from her. She is unsure about what she feels and i completely understand that, it's not like it hasn't been hard on her part to deal with her emotions but her not being sure shouldn't in any way be a justifiable reason for her to make him wait about what might happen. She should deal with her emotions and not drag a good person along with her especially when that person is clearly dealing with his emotions. I don't think it's fair to give him hope when you're not even clear about your emotions. I don't think it's necessary or right to move on from being hurt emotionally by giving someone (who's hurt himself) hope of something that might not happen. She should deal with her feelings and let him deal with his.
If she realised at some point in the future (when she deals with her feelings and is ready) that she has or can have feelings for him as a partner then they could have built a relationship based on effort and understandings mutually if he was ready for it. It's not like he doesn't deserve a chance to prioritise himself over her. He deserves someone who'll love him and i don't mind the FL to be that someone but only when she's clear about what she wants.
The plot is realistic and most of the characters are mature and fair at most times. I think it's important to point out the wrong even if it's realistic.

Care to explain what chemistry is?

I'm freaking out!
This is pure torture. WTH is SH crying in the preview! Like is it fun to see us getting upset or what? They are upsetting by making a demaged boy go through hell once and then again. Like give me a pen and i will write a better 2 final episodes with them together and working to become who they want to be. What's the point here when you can make 2 more episodes with them maturing and exploring their goals!
Let SJ move one. Don't make it the cliche every drama depicts recently. He deserves happiness. Why the hell do the writers find it somewhat good writing when it isn't realistic, hopeful or something new!
That's it, I'm out of here. Tell me how it ends, it's okay even if you don't. Bye.

I didn't read your comment so I explained why she acted that way.
I stated SH being her priority to make a point of why she didn't exactly do the accurate thing she should have, towards SJ as a friend. She is new to all this (first love and friendship) and didn't exactly coordinate her feelings with basic human decency.
Since she had no knowledge of how to be a friend in a situation like this, then it isn't her fault at all especially since SJ didn't find any fault with her lack of knowledge from the start.
I do agree with the fact that she needs to work on her way to react to situations and people.
So your standards for judging a fictional character and a real person are different? If that's so then it's okay for you to find her annoying for no reason at all since she had no fault here.
When I watch a drama, I tend to connect to the characters and so feel and judge them on how I would feel about someone in reality. I know they are fictional but at the time of watching them, I tend to feel for them and react to their situations. Since I judge them by what I feel in reality, that's why I commented on why no one should be annoyed with her for no reason.

I mentioned SJ's reasons for being sad to clarify that JK lack of experience and understandings of situations didn't hurt him as a friend. So from his perspective she still was a friend and her inability to express a concern didn't bother him.
Since you stated that you understood why she acted the way she did, then you shouldn't find the situation confusing. It's understandable considering who she is.

Again, I in no way am trying to state that not expressing basic human decency is something one shouldn't find wrong. It is wrong but I still find no fault of hers in this wrong. She had no intentions of it and unintentional wrong is at best a mistake, a mistake made as a result of being inexperienced in understanding people and situations in her case. A mistake needs to be worked on and even criticised but it in no way should be a reason to labell the person as annoying or a bad friend, in reality.

Yes a simple "how are you" would have been more of an accurate thing to do considering SJ has been doing so much for her and has been a great friend but not doing the accurate thing here doesn't in any way make her annoying or a bad friend to SJ. Like i explained the situations of her visiting the hospital and how the situations and her priority (SH) didn't allow her to do the accurate thing as a friend. We all know she values SJ as a friend from previous episodes (her friendly behavior was exactly why SJ started to have feelings for her) but her inability to express a concern towards SJ is more of a personality and situational thing rather than a friend thing. Her feelings for SH is getting all of her attention on him since they quarrelled before he was hurt. She's a teenager and never had friends. Her complete attention on SH (because of feelings which are new to her) and her inexperienced personality (lack of friends) lead her to be oblivious to what a friend should do. I'm not excusing her oblivious nature here but it makes her more realistic as teenager and it in no way should make her annoying. She is still learning and SJ was perfectly happy when she wrote on his plaster cast. His reasons for being sad never were her inability to do the accurate thing as a friend, it always were his unrequited feelings and her feelings for SH. It hurts when feelings are unrequited but it hurts even more to watch the object of your feelings loving someone else.
Any way i like her character but i like SH and SJ more.

You have the complete right to express an opinion but i also have the right to object to it. It's fine that you felt that way about JK and my comment was in no way directed to change your opinion but to state what i thought to be more accurate about her.
I didn't know writing essays about expressing something is equivalent to getting mad just because i stated something that differs your thoughts.
You don't have to reply if you don't want to.
Anyway enjoy the drama.

She isn't my favourite eithef but what i found wrong with your comment is the opinion that she should have treated SJ differently even when it's more realistic the way she did considering the situations. It's not her fault that SJ felt sad seeing her on SH's side. She loves SH and her concerns and him as priority is the most basic thing she can do for the person she is in a relationship with.
"I didn't say she hate him", what are you saying here? I didn't presume or state that you did.

What!
IDK what you mean by saying that she isn't a good friend when she has been to both Soo Jin and Soe Jun.
Show some concern to SJ? What's that even supposed mean when she did what a friend does. She tried to cheer him up and visited them both. Her priority was SH in this situation and it's completely understandable and justifiable to prioritise him. She has feelings for SH and i don't know what you expected from her as a friend of SJ but i completely found it relatable. It's not like she has to bawl her eyes out to show concern for a friend who broke his hand. It's your bias towards SJ and i will not object to it in normal circumstances but actually stating something as JK being annoying just because she didn't react the way you wanted her to (which is completely unrealistic and unnecessary) or more accurately just because the person you're biased towards has unrequited feelings for her is beyond me! Like for real!
It's not that she is oblivious to SJ as a friend (which she isn't), it's just that her priority in this situation is SH. The first time she visited, she didn't have her makeup on so avoided SJ, the second their friends came and she had to hide, the third time she saw SH going into panic attack. I mean she did try to cheer SJ up (when he wasn't even that much injured) and i don't know what you wanted her to do here but the situations didn't allow it either.

Let me explain on why DS is as important as the other leads when it comes to the plot we got. Let's take their professional and personal lives apart because the drama was about both professional and personal lives of the leads.
DM would never be there if it wasn't for DS. She was under qualified as hell to actually be considered for the position DS offered her. Without him her professional wouldn't have been what we saw. DS's share and efforts in the start up couldn't be neglected from any POV. I mean he was the main focus of the business point of the show not HJP. HJP was used as mentor for them and in case of the start up it actually was about DM and DS, HJP was used as a prop and someone who would help if need be. It wasn't about HJP career or professional at all.
Coming to their personal lives. Concerning DM's personal life, HJP never was a part of it, only his letters were which were also somehow lied about to bring all her focus on DS. We got to see HJP efforts for her but she never did, she only saw someone who she can call a good mentor. The letters at the first half served nothing more than allowing DS to have attention of DM and in second half (where I expected DM would atleast be grateful or put an effort to know HJP and his past to rebuild their relationship of comfort and trust not a romantic one but it never happened) basically were forgotten. I think the letters shouldn't have had that much importance in the plot because it was so unrealistic and I felt bad for DM to actually be lied to about it and in it (since grandma was involved and HJP added things that were not true about himself). She unrealistically and illogical held on to a personality, for 15 year, she built in her head through the letters. I mean the logic thing would have been to not love someone from how they explain themselves to be. You need to see a person from your POV not his especially though letters where you couldn't even see him. Then if for some reason you're romantic and unrealistic enough to still have feelings, then the next logical thing would be to put an effort to find the person not wait for 15 years and shut yourself to other people. That's illogical, unrealistic and unhealthy. The letters should have never be exaggerated to where we as viewers did and the where PHR as writer did.
It is romantic to help someone you like but we as viewers know better. I didn't object to his feelings for DM (although I find it unrealistic), my argument was all about how they wouldn't fit as couples.

Yes it should be balance between dreaming and reality. What I don't understand is how HJP couldn't present her with reality without being involved with her romanticly when he accomplished that throughout the drama. You don't have to be with a person to be able understand what they do. It's all about communication and acceptance and not about romanticism. The same goes with DS. He could have presented her with hope without being in love with her but we got romance even if it was flawed. I did ship them till episode 6 but only because HJP had feelings for her and I didn't want him to be hurt. They still were different people who I couldn't see in a relationship but call it my bias towards HJP. After that, her characterization that followed only made me feel proud of my decision. I was right to think that. She never loved the person behind the letters, she was just stuck with the idea of loving someone who comforted her that's why when she found someone knew who she can love, she did exactly that. When the lie was exposed it made no difference to her because she misunderstood the feelings of comfort with that of love. She shut herself down to the world for illogical reasons and if she didn't she would have fallen in love long ago. It was not about DS, it was all about the opportunity to open up to someone.

The first half built nothing but unrealistic and illogical exaggeration of the letters. The letters shouldn't have held that much importance in the first place and I explained why. The drama just assumed it was somehow healthy and romantic enought to do that when it clearly wasn't.
The first half was also about DS insecurities, his feelings about DM and his journey to become a successful genius. I don't know why you forgot about all that.

I think the flaw here isn't how much related DS was to the plot (when he clearly was) but how much better HJP was as a character especially after the first 6 episodes. The normal line of the writing would be to establish a ML that's equal or more than the 2nd lead characterization wise. Here HJP was much better character than DS and overwhelmingly better than DM. The plot in a story and the characterization of the character's are two different things. The plot revolves around DS but HJP has better characterization hence liked by people much more.
The second half was suffocating especially seeing how they handled HJP and DS. One never found happiness and self love when he deserved to as a character and the other never got the character development we expected considered how much could have been done with with his character.

Ok so just to be clear I prefer the mentor-mentee relationship of HJP and DM over Dodal romantic one. I never objected to the relationship HJP and DM had as mentor and mentee. I objected to them being in a romantic one.
Ok so her mentor-mentee relationship was important but only to her professional life. That doesn't in any way devalue what DS had done for her that helped her career. She never would have been there if it wasn't for DS. The drama was 70-75% based on personal one. DS actually seemed to be the one the story was revolving not DM. I don't know why you you think that DS isn't important to the plot here since he represented much what we watched in the drama. He was important to the plot even when you look at DM's journey to become what she wants.
Besides it's bizarre to judge the logic and reality of a romantic relationship between HJP and DM by explaining the importance of their relationship professionally. Like i explained that they didn't make sense romanticly considering who they both were.
I'm sad for HJP to be in pain because of the unrequited feelings but I'm much happier to let him bear that pain so that he can find someone he needs. DM wasn't that.
The off putting and illogical point isn't the fact that he didn't end up with DM but him still in pain at the end. He deserved a proper closure.

It's fine to priotise hope and dream over reality. It's completely fine. We need hope and dreams in life as much as we need a sense of reality. Preferring one over another isn't wrong but the writers didn't explain it clearly on why she preferred the one representing hope and dreams and how she valued it as someone she chose. She didn't and he somehow accepted that. She didn't fit with neither of them (they both deserved better) but if given a choice on who to choose, my answer always will be DS. Why? Because (1)HJP deserved and needed better. They were two different people separated by different values, goal and preferences. (2) DS and DM made more sense considering who they were but I didn't like their relationship as much as I thought I would. They had issues especially DM.
Bye? I guess.

Yes first love who you have seen and understood to some point not first love from written letters (who's not even real) who you know nothing about now and didn't every try to. Prying over first love one thing but shutting yourself to the world is another. That's not what a person do or should do. The concept of long distance seems more realistic than this scenario because they actually put an effort to know the real people involved and then bear with the separation with the help of each others understandings. Here DM knew nothing about physically and stayed stuck for 15 freaking years! I mean a normal person would want to meat a person who you claim to love without even seeing. If not then it's logical to think that letters written by someone you have feelings for wouldn't tell you what he is and what flaws he has. I can write really well about my self and my emotions but I still may not be what I write. How is it logical to love a person from their POV! I mean I can understand having feelings for him but actually falling in love and holding onto to those feelings for 15 years just because someone explained to you what he is! Wow. No matter how you look at it, you'll find flaws with the scenario that would be far off from reality and logic.

Yes because the writer made her so. I don't understand what the fuss is to wish a vague personality like DM with someone like HJP.

Yes I watched IONTBO recently and I actually prefer that FL over DM. Her character and decisions were questionable by morality but she wasn't some weak person who needed others to make a difference in her life.

YES! especially with a weak romantic plot as this, it would have been an absolute treat to watch DS and HJP together in dealing with their business and personal lives. There was basically no need for DM for them to realize who they are and what they need. They can do that for each other or by themselves.

HJP ending hit the hardest but I do agree with others not getting the ending they deserved.
They did try but all their efforts were related into convincing us that his relationship with DM was somehow perfect when it wasn't and somehow invoke sympathy for him by showing his self pity. That much effort if was put on his character and motivations, it would have yield a much better storyline and I would be less bothered by his relationship with DM since they can grow up together but the didn't. They stopped them growing as individuals and focused on the romance part.

He had the potential to be what he wanted without the expense of other characters but they practically insulted the word genius by creating something as bizarre as DM helping him out in his goal. Like what!
I understand that genius is just a word, it only becomes a phenomenon when you carve it by efforts. Using HJP and the other qualified people to make DS actually put the genius into action is fine and it make sense but they flushed all that drown the drain when they actually showed him self pitying over love life and prioritising DM over himself and his goal. That was off putting.
I felt like it was the other way around in DM's case. She didn't do anything near what he has done for her. He always forgot himself and his values to help DM achieve what she wanted. He would have been still fine even if DM didn't exist but it was not the case for DM's storyline.
Yes that was HJP's part in DS's storyline and that's quite realistic and justifiable to use him in helping DS into achieving what he's capable of. I mean it was HJP's duty to point out what should and shouldn't be regarding business.
WIJ's part also was necessary to create someone as Elon Musk.
Their professional lives revolved around him because he was the highest potential having person among them. To bring out the potential he needed help and that's where the other characters came in. I would have liked it if they showed it more with DS being ungrateful for their efforts and be unnecessarily emotional.

HJP's professional life in dealing with problems for them never was a waste. It was what he is supposed to do. The waste of his character was always his personal life and his feelings.

I don't know why you think that DM was only helped by HJP and her sister when the writers made DS do everything for her without even considering himself. HJP was realistic and still valued principles and facts rather than emotions and WIJ was the same. On the other hand DS never considered those and just was hell bent on trying to help her without thinking forhimself. Although it is unhealthy and not a trait a good relationship should be based on but he still did it for her. I think that's she fell in love with him. She wanted someone who would help and agree with her no matter what. HJP wasn't that but DS was. I think that's the biggest waste for the character of DS who is supposed to be a genius not a freaking emotional and illogical teenager.

Yes their relationship was shallow and it wasn't only based upon feelings and understandings (which a relationship should be). It was more of situation on how much DS could do for DM and how much DM could receive. I never saw her putting an effort in understanding him but he did. Like the situation with grandma and her goals. I'm not saying that DM was the only one at fault here but she definitely was responsible for the bigger parts of the problems in their relationship.

Yes and the only explanation for that is that she never loved the person behind the letters. She loved the letters and idea of the personality which the letters presented (not HJP). I don't think that's hard to understand. When you have no feelings attached to a person, ofcourse you would make an opinion about him with listening to his side of the story. I don't even know how people still consider DM as even a possibility for HJP. That absurd.

No I disagree with the point that the letters actually meant something to HJP the same as it did to DM. Especially if you state that it meant to him to the point where he shut himself down. That's evidently not true. He didn't even remember her name!
HJP's only motivation for writing the letters was grandma but it later became something along the line of comfort and having someone to talk to. It never meant something as bizarre as love through letters and actually being able to shut himself down to people because of the letters. He never seemed to even ask about her or seek her for 15 years. That's not what a person in love would do. Then he presented someone else to pretend to be him knowing the sentiments attached to the letters on DM part. He never loved the person from the letters, he only came to have feelings for her when he saw her and knew she was the writer. His inability to find a partner was his previous life and had nothing to do with her. His priority always was his career not finding love and it's understandable.

Yes Dany's fury came out of nowhere. I understand the pre situations that lead to it but it was nowhere near for her to burn King's landing to the group killing a million people. The biggest put off was the sudden choosing of Bran as the new king and allowing Sansa to create a new kingdom out winterfell. I mean Bran didn't do anything to deserve to be king or even be supported be people. Sansa's claim of a new kingdom was even more bizarre since it created an idea of division and I don't know why people will allow it. They practically threw everything about Jon Snow in the drain. It was terrible.

Yes the hell with it. HJP's character wasn't supposed to be like that.

Yeah it takes a long time especially when you have held to the feelings for 3 years.

Ok so I agree with the fact that Dodal wasn't healthy. They were like two people who love each other just because they wanted to. They didn't put any thought into what the other was or needed especially on DM's part. DS feelings for her practically were started when she praised him for his genius but what I don't understand is how in the world was a genius deprived from the feelings of being praised! That didn't make sense.
Coming to Jidal. That only happened because they weren't in a relationship. DM sounded like what people sound when they are talking with friends or someone they admire. From HJP's prospective it was a different scenario. She losing her individuality never was because of NDS but because she couldn't afford to keep it in those situations and with people around her. She depended on DS and HJP every step of the way because the only reason she was there in the first place was because of them. DS put an extra effort to a pillar for her dreams both at the start and at the end. Her dependency on people lead her to lose her individuality not her relationship with DS. HJP actually didn't need anything from her but the fact that she had nothing to offer (even focus) is another thing. JP was too far from her both psychologically and status wise. He had different values in life like understanding other people, being selfless to the people he cares about and having the ability to actually be sensible. Which were all opposite to DM was. She never put an effort to not be on the receiving side.

Like I said she would have lost her personality no matter who she was with. She had no ability or choice to survive in that competitive world with her values only but actually using (or borrowing) others to achieve a certain goal like she did many times with DS. DS is actually the victim here. He had so much potential as a character but they only used him as a prop for DM to love and use. Like that was hurtful to watch.

I disagree with her being in love with HJP. She never was. She was in love with one in the letters or more accurately obsessed. The letters never were on who HJP was or even is. The letters created a personality in her mind that was the mixture of HJP, grandma and nonexistent things added by HJP for DM to find relevancy and hence comfort. When she came to know that HJP is the person behind the letters she couldn't love him like she thought she would. That's when I was convinced that she only loved the letters and not the writer. It's completely understandable.

The defect here was not the rarity of their disagreement but them deviating from their values because of feelings. DS was practically neglecting everything about him to focus on DM and DM practically neglecting everything about him to focus on her goals. That's messed up.

She couldn't like him for who he was in reality and that's why she practically neglected him and his feelings after his confession. That's understandable but what was bad about this scenario is her neglecting everything the letters did for her. She should atleast expressed how the letters helped her and how his writing was helped her go on. I didn't want a romantic relationship between them but that doesn't mean I didn't want HJP to be appreciated and acknowledged as someone who helped her even if the writing didn't present what he really was.

I don't know anything about Cyarano but her acting that way towards HJP was understandable. If it was before she fell for DS or 15 years ago when they created the the connection then I would have totally rooted for it even if I disagree with their union because they are too much different from each other but after those situations and knowing her, I was completely satisfied with her chosing DS. It both made sense and was realistic.
I agree with the potential they had as characters especially DS and HJP. Characters like those shouldn't be used as a prop to force us to focus of the FL especially when she doesn't have the characterization to bend the whole plot and characters towards her story. HJP deserved a proper ending and development (in area of self care and love) and DS was practically wasted and never had any character development just because they had to force the romanticism of the drama down our throat.

I explained it why Jidal wouldn't have stuck even if they could have gotten together. It wouldn't have been different in reality or in a kdrama (where it follows basic logic). She was a vague character (emotions and and understandings wise) with no abilities or achievements whereas HJP was completely the opposite. DM wasn't something he needed. The only pretext and logic behind having wished them together were the letters and his feelings towards her. The letters shouldn't have served any point in building a relationship from the start. Those letters were created for her not written. It wasn't HJP neither of the past and definitely not the present one. It wouldn't have made sense to build a relationship just considering those. The lie served the as closing stamp of their possibility of having a relationship. She was already in love with someone else and the her feelings for the letters seemingly were inferior to her feelings for DS. I never understood the logic behind exaggerating the letters to the point that it can still be considered as being in love after 15 years, neither at the start of the drama in DM's case (practically shutting herself to people) nor now in your case.

It never should have been a love triangle but since the FL didn't have enough material regarding her characterization to make 16 episodes revolve around her. HJP's feelings didn't make sense to me since he never took the letters as serious as DM. He forgot about them till he met DM. HJP's character was interesting enough even without having to involve him in the pointless love triangle.
HJP deserved a better ending even if we got the love triangle and ending up with DM wasn't one. Finding his own happiness, discovering self love, having friends and family around and possibly having some he needed and deserved as a partner.

It was fun for me too. Bye.

I would have agreed with the fact that the hotter the live the hotter the hate for others but not DS. He was hell bent on loving her even after 3 years. He made the decision to move and I was happy for the character development, putting efforts into building himself but when he agreed with DM proposition to work with them even after believing that she didn't love him but the writer of the letters aka HJP was a brain wrecking point for me. Like dude you are a fu*king genius who has so much potential then why are you acting so weak! Have a sense of self love. He still agreed to working with them after seeing her go after him to the mountain. That is why I would not agree with him hating her even if she moved on.

DS wanting to protect her by involving himself was because she didn't have the ability to so herself. It would have been the same even if HJP was in a relationship with her. It was completely on her to not be able to do something on her own not DS protecting her. Basically she never had any qualities that should allow her to be someone who would have individual and independence in the competitive business world they were in. The two reasons for her being there were HJP and DS so I don't think they had anything to do with her characterization. The writer somehow thought it was cool to portray her as someone who needs saving even after making the whole story revolving around her.

Yes he definitely did. He both deserved and needed someone better.

Yes I did like her too but her characterization still didn't convince me to ship her with HJP. I just for some reason couldn't ignore how far away they were mentally and personally. That's what I thought too. The later episodes made it clear for me that she was just attached to the idea of the person the letters presented not the real person. Her mindset and understandings were a mess. She never thought about what she felt or how she is to lead a proper life.

Yes the first episode did a good job in establishing a starting point to the possibilities of what could be done with the characters. Actually her characters were so multi dimensional that she could have created the plot for 16 episodes with involving HJP in the love triangle. I mean how much can you do with HJP and DS. One is emotionally damaged person who still holds on to the good of people and situations and has no sense of self love. The other is a genius still in the process of getting carved to be a future asset to the country. Only those two could have created an interesting drama let alone other characters.

Yes their relationship would look immature and unstable from a realistic and logical POV but again majority of the Kdramas does that. I can overlook that but what I couldn't is the lack of character development and their endings to the characters including DS and HJP. Both were used for nothing except helping DM reach her goal and have feelings for her for no reason.
Yes it does happen and it's completely fine to have feelings for a mentor (although it will be difficult to maintain that relationship) but not when the mentee is DM and mentor is HJP. The gap between their professional lives was the least of their concerns. They are completely different (HJP is way superior). HJP would never have gotten what he needed had he started a relationship with DM. She was ignorant to the people she love, lacked focus on things that aren't related to her, had nothing to offer in a relationship and practically is someone who knows only how to receive. That relationship would never stuck in a kdrama or reality.

Yes as I said it was quite absurd on DS part but it isn't something that's not forgivable. She should have thought her feelings through but there shouldn't be any debate about the fact that she did have feelings for DS and I explained why that is. DS being guilty is correct and so is HJP. The lie started with him and he didn't even bother to stop it when he saw her falling for DS. So her exploring things with HJP as something more than friends wouldn't make sense. She saw him nothing of the context related to romance and he shouldn't have either. But again writers love making illogical points and forcefully inducing feelings.
Yes she should have confronted it especially with HJP and know his POV but no. Like I said again the letters should never have been used to develop something as feelings between them. It could have a relationship of thankfulness for the past and a friendship for the present. The importance of the letters I the plot was important ofcourse but it being important shouldn't necessarily lead to them being romanticly involved. They were two very different people who comforted each other a long time ago and worked together in the present. That's as simple as it is. I don't know why the writer thought it was logical or romantic enought to consider letters from 15 years ago that can serve as something that can be built into a romantic relationship. I could even get over the fact that DM was somehow obsessed with it but what I couldn't understand is HJP feelings for her since the only reasons for those feelings supposedly were the letters. Like what is that supposed to achieve here in the plot!

Yes like I stated it would have been another and proper way to go about it. Making things clear with HJP after his confession would have been so much better but that would practically make the viewers neglect everything about DM. But I would have understood it even in this scenario (like the writer's) if HJP moved on. I would have understood that since she was grateful to him hence couldn't straightly reject him and started behaving like someone would if they had no intrest in the other party. I would have understood it but HJP inability to recognise that as rejection (actually he did get it) and still making zero efforts to move on was frustrating. That was inconsistent with the characterization of HJP since he understood people even without them talking (characteristic ever good businessman have). The writer neglected that and gave us the illogical feelings on his part for DM even till the end.

GRRM is so slow like get man get your ass up and write something but then I'm afraid he would mess it up like D&D did because of the rush. I just hope he survives till the completion of the series or I'll die of regret.

Yes it was messed up to do that with HJP's character.

Yes it was interesting to watch a character as selfless as HJP till episode 13. Past that was just an attempt on the writer's side to actually make HJP stick with those feelings. His character should have been developed to the point where he can prioritise himself. Since I liked his character I wanted him to be happy and his happiness depended on his realisation of the fact that it's completely fine to find his own happiness and prioritise himself. That didn't happen either and I was pissed.

I wouldn't have minded him to be friends with DS only if he didn't have feelings for DM and only if he had a proper closure to his character. I mean it's stupid to fight over a girl. He is a big boy and can move on especially when his feelings didn't make sense in the first place. He could be friends with DM and DS after finding himself and his happiness and could have shared it with his family (grandma).