Clinically-Insane

You most absolutely can and have every right to state what you would like to see. I didn't object to your right to express or prefer. I criticised what your version of the story would be. I stated what i wouldn't want to see about a character i like, that's just to be a plot device for a relationship.
Your right to express is as rightful as my right to criticise what you expressed.
I don't hate your fantasy, i just don't like it because it seems nonsensical to me, that's all.

Oh no. Sympathy has basically nothing to do with well written character. Establishing a good character has nothing to do with the moral grounds of people through which they decide whether one deserves sympathy or not.

So we are to appreciate the most cliche and nonsensical storylines in the history of kdramas!
You basically bashed DS's character and motives in the drama from the start just to make him a plot device for DM and HJP to be together. It's not good writing, it's fantasy.
You want a lead character who basically persued the FL in the whole show to work hard for 4 years so that he may be able to walk alongside the FL to just smile in the end when his dream gets shattered? You call that growth?
I can't understand any of the things you said about DS considering he's the ML.

People saying that they can't feel the chemistry between DS and DM are either blind or know nothing about romance and chemistry.
Have you people seen the intimate scenes between them! (Kiss and the hug scenes)
The psychological (him helping with her grandma blindness) and emotional (her crying on his shoulder and hugging him when she's happy) interaction between the leads is one of the best things in the drama, which is what chemistry between people basically is (psychological and emotional interactions). Their similarities and struggles is something I really like seeing in a kdrama. Am i the only one who thinks that growing as a human (DS) and trying to go after what you want in your life (DM) isn't a wrong thing to do? I saw a theory in the comment section where they basically regarded DS as a plot device to help DM get with HJP after 4 years of gap and still stating that they expect him to be happy for her (the theory regarded it as growth of a character which is think is biased and illogical) is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard about the ML of a drama. Some other theories are stating that his feeling for DM are obsession not love which i again find myself to be conflicted about. He helps and supports her through thick and thin, she is in his list of priorities, she is in the company because of him, he believes in her unconditionally and most importantly, he's trying to be more for himself and her. I don't know where people consider those qualities in a human to be obsession but where i live, it's the most sincere of feelings i rarely see around.
Now I like HJP but there is no chemistry whatsoever between him and DM yet. I mean she has never considered him more than a senior and a friend. There is no emotional and psychological interaction between them till now except the letters which were 15 years ago. I mean an intense physical interaction between two people (DS and DM) will always, i repeat, always beat an interaction built through letters 15 years ago. I mean it's undoubtedly very realistic and romantic. The personality in letters was something of a mixture between grandma, HJP and things added from imagination for DM to find a thread of relevancy and comfort. The personality in the letters was never real because it was basically built. Even considering that the personality in letters was real, the interaction between DM and DS far outweighs something that was built through letters 15 years ago especially when you come to realize that the letters didn't mean as much to the person who wrote them than to person the letters comforted (plus it was something that was created not real).
I am seeing and appreciating the chemistry between DS and DM and it's beautiful. I mean people can support HJP (i do too) but neglecting everything about DS just to root for HJP is neither logical nor cinematic.
Other fans are angry about a potential twist about HJP character and are basically blaming the writer to not go in that direction just because they want to HJP to stay the way he is, "perfectly good" is what they think of him. First of all i think classifying humans in good and bad categories is nonsensical. Humans are more complex than to be just described in one word. Second is the fact of the matter that the viewers somehow think that they can dictate a character's storyline. I mean the storyline is originally written by someone who wrote the HJP storyline, if you're going to give yourself the right to interrupt (even when you've no right) a character's storyline then it's biased to watch the show because we aren't watching a writer's story but fantasy of a fan. HJP is a great character but having the misconception that great characters doesn't make mistakes actually shows how much one know about life. Everybody makes mistakes and if the writer wrote something about HJP's character then i for one will not hate him but understand him. If it's too grave of a mistake then maybe i will criticise his actions (which basically every great man in history has faced) but hating is far from what i really would do.

Yeah well let's see.
I'm more interested in DS story because i relate with him on a lot of levels.

While it's wrong to lie in both their cases but i get when DS lies because he has so much to loose which i can relate to. What i don't understand is HJP.
While he started the lie, it should be him to tell her everything. But since DS is in a relationship with her, he also has the obligation to tell the truth but he holds on to the ignorance of enjoying the present rather then thinking about the future.
You can criticise one more than the other based on your prospective but one started the lie and helped extend it while the other is extending the lie by lying more, so they are both equally guilty but since DS is in relationship with her, so i get it. But if she breaks off the relationship then i wouldn't understand if she goes to HJP because he lied all the same. They need to apologise and pay for the lies and then have a fair chance to be with her.
Is it wierd that i don't care about her in the drama? I mean i want to see DS, HJP and the other characters stories but i have no intrests in hers whatsoever. Ok so it's just me!

The intelligence itself is not subjective. What the individual that possesses it can do with it is. The subjective part comes in when you try to change intelligence into skill sets.
While I'm not talking about IQ test here but i also believe that one with practice enough can beat a genius in a chess game but with enough time to practice the genius will eventually beat the one with skill set. That's as objective as it can be because has higher sense of understandings and perception than what normal does.
Why should we be homogenised? It isn't neither natural nor effective. The laws that governs humans and force them to remain in the mental boundaries are set to protect and cherish the average but what we really need is an open mindset about being as subjective in terms of understanding human mind and emotions so that what we have created wouldn't be a prison for someone different from average. Mendel was a scientist made fun of for his research in theories of inheritance just because they didn't understand what he was trying to explain. 13 years after his death did they come to realize that he was right and now is called one of the pioneers of modern biology. Every genius of his/her time had to and has to face being threatened and confined just for thinking differently and out of the box. I think we need to create society where we work to understand not undermine just because they are different.
Elitism is outdated in the current era, it's the time of democracy. One can't hold the belief that what an elite does will be more effective then what the majority wants to be done. An elite works on the beliefs and understandings of what he/she believes but democracy gives the right to everyone regardless of the state of mind or shape of face. Our systems runs on democracy but the problem with it is that democracy always results in mediocrity because average people are more than above average so the result
always is the average one being the one in power because they understand him/her while the above average never gets the chance to be understood because normal people simply can't.
Yes everyone has questions in their lives they need answered, i never denied that. But the difference here between normal and an intellectual being is that the normal has mental weakness to not find the answer and still lead a normal life (leading to less question hence less knowing of reality, promoting one to ignore the darkness), the geniuses wouldn't and couldn't ignore what they already know. They will search for answers until it leads to the point where they are covered by darkness and the ugly truths. That's where one acknowledge that they are truly lonely because no one knows what they know and no one understands them.
So when a person comes along where it seems that you would not be alone in the darkness or loneliness (being on top), then i think it's both logical and interesting enough to know that the person still wants to believe that there are still things to hold on to in this world whether it be a person or the sense of appreciation and protection they provide.
While being wealthy, you can actually relate to people no matter how poor the others are because the basic sense of understandings of right and wrong is the same but being smarter leads to different perspective and understandings. So that's why being wealthy can actually live in our society pretty well with a sense of belonging but the highly intellectual can't.

Well the reason you mentioned can be it or mine can be correct but be it either, it doesn't help him being guilty of the lie whatsoever. I can understand DS but i can't understand his reasons. Like are we going to see the cliche story of a guy who didn't show any feelings because of his insecurities but when another guy shows intrest in the girl, the guy will be hell bent on gettimg the girl?
Actually her answer shows it that she does. She had a preference and like for the one in the letters and the real one respectively. The real and fake DS are different people after all, while she may not know yet but she still feels it.
I actually believe that stronger bonds can be created while actually knowing and seeing the person physically than a bond created between two people over letters 15 years ago. Like what if you don't like his physicality, his way of eating, his habits or his preferences. While falling in love with person and being stuck there for 15 years because of letters seems absurd but it's a kdrama so i get it, they over exaggerate.
Ok so my point being is this whole thread was that DS's action are over analyzed and criticised by people while at the same time they praise HJP who's equally guilty of the lie. I get that people have preferences and i totally support you opinionating your thought and preferences but being logical is equally important. You don't have to degrade one to support another, you can simply support what you prefer.

Ok so HJP not stopping DS is still wrong because he initiated it. No matter what the reason or person, you should fix what you ruined with your own hands. That's my whole point. The fact that DS lied doesn't need to be elaborated more but HJP is just as guilty. He created the lie and build more lies upon it and when DS intensified the effect and reasons of the lie, he didn't stop him. When one creates a mess then he has a responsibility to clean it up but he still stopped DS from telling the truth. DS has a reason that he is afraid she wouldn't look at him the same way but the current HJP has none other than the nonsense to simply prefer betraying her to this intensity then to simply reveal the truth in the beginning which wouldn't have comparable effect or demage.
While she still prefers the letter's DS but she still said that the current DS make her heart flutter, meaning she likes him. I prefer her said words about him than her gestures towards him because everyone expresses differently. DS has created a different impression different from the letters, she can feel it subconsciously that's why she's separating the two. She kissed him not because of the letters but because of the real DS. While i agree that the letters had a part to play in how they got there so quickly but saying that she kissed him for the letters that were written 15 years ago is biased. She did it for the real DS and for how he supports her and acts around her (her previous statement).
So what i want to say is that they are equally guilty for lying even if it was for good intentions in the beginning. They chose to lie and then chose to build a bigger lie by directly and indirectly participating in it.

While people can decide who's more beautiful or handsome between people, why can't one decide who is superior mentally! Facts are reasoned enough to be accepted as reality and every human should be aware of what reality is and isn't.
An elite to someone normal is someone normal to someone with intelligence. That's where the problem lie, normal and smart people have different perspectives. While what normal people consider satisfying might be considered awfully unsatisfactory to someone with more intellectual ability. Boundaries doesn't create anything more than a sense of suffocation but breaking those boundaries does create elites. But will one will be able to break it? Will it be enough? Those questions needs answers and again answers creates more question because what one don't know is a lot more than one would know. The struggle doesn't bring satisfaction but knowing that you're enough will but considering how far one with brilliant mind can see will lead to darkness but never a satisfactory end line.
You can't correlate the rich with the smart. Their goals lie on different paths.
While i do agree that there will always be someone better but that doesn't mean you'll be satisfied with what the world has to offer because it isn't built for you. Like if you bring Albert Einstein from the past here to future he would still be considered an unparalleled genius. So time doesn't change the fact that geniuses are lonely even if it changes the IQ because the change is too slow for one lifetime.

That's where DS is wrong but him being wrong in that instance doesn't acquitt HJP lie in the letters and later trying to lie so that she can loose an important person but that didn't happen. He was later helped by HJP to solidfy the lie.
Now later DS tried to tell the truth but was stopped by HJP which makes them both equally guilty.
I never ever tried to create anything that's false. DS is definitely guilty but so is HJP.
When you come to the relationship i believe that the letters just provided DS with a chance so that DM would look at him. For the kiss he didn't use the letters whatsoever because in DM mind they are different people (the letter DS and the real one).
Yes he pretended to be someone but he never impersonated or committed an identity theft which your original comment stated because that someone never existed. It was a personality mixture and added things from imagination.
Everyone one of them is lying and abetting the lie. Not doing anything to stop the lie which HJP started is equally wrong. They are guilty and there should be no biased opinions to justify one for the same thing while blame the other.

But it isn't a complex. It's isn't any overly high opinion of one's self developed in the result of feeling inferiority which is what superiority complex basically is. It's an opinion of one's self which validates his opnion that he's superior mentally to other people because he actually is.
What do you mean it creates elitism?
Being an elite is anything but isolation in confined boundaries. Their minds aren't on mere things like mingling but exploring and knowing more. That's a curse because you can never quench the thirst of knowing more because there's something you always won't know which creates a sense of doubt whether one is enough or not.
You seem to have the biased idea that geniuses are billionaire or elites in the society which isn't the case majorly. Society is led by people with average intelligence because our society is based on democracy and democracy favors the majority which are average. The desperation to know something but you can't do anything about it because people can't understand is devastating.
What you seem to think is that geniuses would get along with each other but like i said they over analyse things and their interaction never lead to friendship or what's perceived as friendship. They each have their opinions and being strongly opinionated leads to distinction (a quality too) which basically creates their individuality.
There's a notion in your comment which describes the term "being better" for a genius as some kind of quality which is a curse for them. You're using comparative degree of an adjective which basically needs a previous adjective to compare to. There shouldn't be any notion of comparison for someone who has always been compared by people or himself to someone or his previous self. Basic sense of happiness comes from when you're allowed to live according to your own beliefs and act according to what you know and want to know. Those conditions can never be satisfied in a society where societal norms imprisons not improve especially to someone who has different beliefs and knows to much to act on but still wants to know more. It's a paradoxical situation where can neither believe nor act.
DS never looked for praises but for a genuine appreciation which he found in DM according to the drama. Everyone enjoys appreciation even a genius from someone they like.

But that's not the only lie HJP and grandma made up. The lie DS is living was started and planned by them. Logic is something your comment mentions very little about.
The lie was never more than the scenario that HJP wrote the letters not DS and that scenario was never ever DS idea, it was all HJP. Plus DS tried to tell her the truth but HJP stopped him making the lie even worse.
Logic will be to blame HJP for lying and still hiding it and even personifying the personality in the letters fasely but your opinion isn't anywhere near what a logical statement would be.
You were basically using the word "crime" to validate your opinion by labelling a person who was far from anything you described as a person with the crime of identity theft an impersonation which basically is fictitious and nonsense. That's why i explained your opinion which logically is flawed in the light of the law.

Ok so they looking down on normal people because they are superiors is completely justified but that does that because they don't relate to normal people. If you think this has nothing to do with being insecure or feeling lonely then you're simply wrong.
Society is built statistically and literally for the average and below average hence isolating or limiting the smart to selected boundaries. Boundaries creates a sense of isolation.
British philosopher Bertrand Russell summed it up best: 'The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt'. Put simply, smart people are clever enough to know how much they don't know, while the less intelligent don't have the ability to recognise their lackings. The knowledge of self realization is a curse sometimes because everyone has flaws and the constant realisation makes one desperate to doubt oneself which leads to insecurities because you can't fix every single flaw.
The most common found quality found in smart people is they over analyse things. That leads to questions and every questions needs to be answered but the problem is not every question has an answer.
So them acting superior is because they are but that doesn't mean they don't feel insecure about themselves when in fact they do more than the normal because they have the mind to realise a problem or defect more rapidly than normal people.

What!!!
This is where fangirling intercepts and ruin the basic sense of logic a human being should have.
First of all the drama is about human feelings not the law so explaining things from that perspective is kind of biased. Looking into law to know if something is right or wrong (crime) isn't what one should do while a watching a kdrama since half characters of every popular drama out there would land in jail for sexual assault, blackmailing, coercion and physical assault etc if you bring them to a court. Since we look for the emotions behind those actions in other dramas, this drama shouldn't be an exception. But since you're looking into that angle to prove something you think is right then let me explain it to you. There's not a law or a sense of basic understandings in the world that would consider DS's lie to be identity theft (an act to use someone's name, SSN etc to commit acts of fraud or theft etc) or impersonation (when one imitates the behavior or personality of another). You can't prosecute someone for acting like someone who only existed on paper with the same name, never. The DS from the letters never existed as he was always the combination of grandma's and HJP efforts to comfort DM by someone she can relate to. HJP wrote the letters but please don't say that the letters depicted who he really was. The person in the letters was basically HJP mixed with grandma and a non existent person they made to comfort DM through a sense of relevancy. So the law will never, i repeat never, punish someone for impersonating someone that existed 15 years ago only on paper.

Now there comes the reality of the situation. I don't know from where you deducted that DS could hide the facts forever and HJP can't (which isn't evident or facts based). So that makes DS's lie, which basically is the same, unforgivable while HJP can be considered nearly innocent. You forgot to completely mention the part where HJP persuaded DS into impersonating the person from the letters. You can't criticise DS for doing something which basically is planned and started from HJP while depending HJP in the whole comment section. DS is just the result of what he wanted to do not what he just did.
DS never benefited from the letters in the case of her kissing him. He kept his distance in the start and even showed hesitation when she hugged him or touched him. DM had already separated the letters DS from the real one subconsciously, so when she kissed him it was the real him not the one from the letters. She even said that the current DS makes her heart flutter and that's a sign of liking. Kissing someone you like is pretty normal.
While I think the lie isn't the right thing to do, at the same time I also think everyone involved is equally guilty especially grandma and HJP. They knew it would lead to this when they say her falling for the person in the letters but still chose to build more lies around it.

"Strive for the best"?
I don't think people with insecurities enough to build a cocoon around them would phrase something like what you said and then try to be that. The whole point of being afraid of the normal or being insecure is that the person don't want to do that. A distant harbour seems safer to them despite being alone than a crouded one. Most geniuses around the world feel that because they don't connect and if even you see them doing something like normal people do, that's pretending from their perspective. DS is the same and that's interesting to see someone who behave normal not some superhero who always tries to be better.
DS sees someone (DM) who made him feel like he can be like everyone else and have a sense of relevance and belonging which someone antisocial always anticipate. That's where your statement comes in, in the character's life.

Inconsiderate: yes but only from her perspective until the truth is out not ours. He's trying to create an image of himself in her mind not the person in the letters. We know he has a pretty justifiable reason for saying that and that's why his reason for the lie shouldn't be doubted like your original comment stated. The mention of love on my part was because your original comment made me feel like he was not senciere in his feelings for her which i think he was. You not empathising with him is completely fine but doubting his mindset about the lie isn't.
Yes you can express an opinion but trying to justify it with non existent facts in the drama isn't argumentative or liberating.

Your whole point is that a wish (an ideal situation) on his behalf affects the credibility of his statements and reasons for the lie and love. That's BTW non existent in drama until now and i explained it. He acted as himself at that moment at that time and wished something and there's nothing wrong with that.
If that's hard to understand then there's no point in arguing.
Bye.

Because he isn't the one who wrote the letters SDM will understand that when she comes to know the lie.
DS is acting as a person in the letters and is being himself at the same time but at that moment he was himself and wished for something truly not harmful. He is stuffing the emotions of him knowing that she thinks he's someone else, that is building up inside and he released a fraction of that in the wish. That in no way affect the credibility of his love or the statement that he was afraid she would be so sad.
A statement should be based on the actual facts presented in the drama not personal opinions based on preferences or what you want it to be.
Edit: he knows that she will come to realise the truth sooner or later that's why he's dropping hints to her that he isn't just acting but also acting on his true feelings for her.

You argument makes no sense whatsoever. He wished that because he knows when she comes to realize that DS isn't the one who wrote the letters 15 years ago, it will hurt her a lot especially when the one who wrote the letters is a participant in the lie. That's why he wishes she didn't know the one who wrote the letters and again becuase: 1) it will hurt her now when she comes to know the lie. 2) He loves her a lot and anyone who has ever loved someone wishes with all their heart that the one they love, loves them back especially when you know that she fell in love with the letters and you're not the one who wrote it. That's why he wished it. It's called being human to wish something like that after all a wish is an ideal situation you want not reality. His wish didn't change anything in her life and he knows that that's why he has allowed himself to wish something like that.
Stop with the ridiculous theories related to DS, it's becoming annoying.